They are actively using iranian drones. Certainly not russian made ones.
The have used artillery very effectively for the entire duration of this conflict... are you suggesting they are using telepaths?
Concerning the predator equivalent instead, Russia is developing petrol engines for both drones and light civil aviation on this power range ( as i already posted in the Russian UAV thread), and they can either develop a new drone or possibly more easily do a russian derivative of the Iranian shahed 129 with Russian engines and russian parts.
Their urgency for murderbots is not as great as it is for the leaders of the free world and beacons of democracy for the world...
Suicide drones would not have been a lot of use previously... when hundreds of men are on a suicide charge and eye in the sky directing artillery fire is more valuable than a single or even half a dozen bots carrying bombs... the eye in the sky can continue to watch while artillery delivers tons of ordinance until the job is done... even the most powerful predator drone might have a dozen guided missiles at best... that often cost more than the vehicles and targets they are hitting.
Even their soldiers complain that they lack drones.
Of course soldiers complain about a lack of drones... have you ever met a soldier?
With 10 thousand drones flying around the front line how does your air defence differentiate between your drones and theirs?
Are they going to ask their soldiers to display the purchase receipts?
Are you going to ignore all those drones operating over the front lines and do nothing and assume they are all friendly?
They are shooting down 1-2 dozen drones every day... how are they going to go with 10 times that number of drones in the air... some friendly and some not.
Now that iranian drones are doing the job, they write this piece of propaganda to try to save the face.
The enemy has flooded the front lines with bodies in a counter attack... it is a good time to use some suicide drones but the bulk of the killing will continue to be artillery drones and accurately delivered artillery.
The main practical difference will be they will likely now start showing the results of the suicide drone attacks which is going to be great for their propaganda war... except it comes via the internet controlled mostly by the evil west so all their new victories will be censored as too violent to be shown.
The S-70 Okohtnik was very likely to become a successor to the Su-25 and therefore an attack (heavy) unmanned drone.
S-70 is a wingman drone that will likely operate with fighter aircraft rather than in CAS roles.
Heavy HALE and MALE drones on the other hand would be rather good to operate with Su-25 and attack helicopter types looking for enemy positions and fire positions in real time as the Su-25 and helicopters operate giving them warning and information about the targets and threats around them.
The information they gather could also be used by platforms further back using standoff weapons and munitions to hit well hidden or protected targets.
My first "pick" for a unmanned fighter aircraft might be the GROM..It is possible that I am wrong, time will tell. The projected flight height is up to 12,000 meters, which is not too much, but not too little. After all, this picture is just a mockup and there will be many more changes.
That's just my opinion and nothing more..
I suspect GROM might be quite fast and relatively stealthy and be more of a strike platform.... HALES and MALES will have very long thin wings like a U-2 spy plane or a glider for very long range cruising using optics and radar and other equipment looking for targets and threats on the battlefield for extended periods of time.
HALE and MALE are high and medium long endurance platforms respectively... ironically arming them up just reduces their endurance... maybe carrying one or two bombs in a bomb bay might allow important targets of opportunity to be engaged... those new 110kg missiles with the 30kg warhead and 40km range to replace the Kh-25 family of missiles would be rather interesting and useful weapons too... especially an anti radar model if the enemy try to shoot your drones down.
If they can't supply cheap small civilian quadcopter then they are doomed.
You can buy them online for tens of dollars to few hundred for better ones. They also have chinese support who produces most of civilian drobes worldwide yet they strugle getting them.
I doubt they want thousands of drones with unsecure datalinks and video feeds flying around the place for HATO to intercept, and to distract friendly AD from shooting down enemy drones.
They had quad copter drones at their training facilities in the last few years, there is no evidence at all that they lack anything except for soldiers who always want toys to make their jobs easier.
The problem of the russian army and MiC is the same as yours. They keep beleiving in their own lies instead of facing their issues.
The Russian army has lots of problems... if a lack of toys for friendly soldiers is one of them then they are pretty well set.
The EU and HATO and US on the other hand needs an IADS to operate in the 21st C... who is going to pay for that?
Buying iranian drones didn't kill them. It was a fast solution to a big problem. They seem to be ashamed to admit they don't produce everything and have needs that can be quickly fullfied by external suppliers.
For all we know they bought them 10 years ago and they have been sitting in stock waiting for this phase of the police action.
You can lust all you want about large Reaper like drones, but they have very limited use against a country with serious AD capability.
We have seen how easy larger drones are to shoot down when you don't have air control... such drones would be useless except in luring out any remaining BUK and S-300 system.
I would say flying some oversized drones packed with EW and flares and chaff and perhaps targeting pods to look for incoming threats to get them to use up their heavy SAMs.
I have the impression that drones somehow are wunderwaffle in some heads.
They are magic as long as they have a video datalink to show their attacks in real time video... you know... like we didn't get from various attacks like the Moskva or that snake island video showing the Orc helicopter being destroyed as it landed... once you capture the video you can turn a defeat into a victory... no wonder the west loves them so much...
On hand you have soldiers complaining about lack of drones and russians buying iranian drones because they have no other solution...
....and...
...on the other hand you have you a random dude saying there is no problem with drones.
On the one hand you have experienced western special forces volunteers saying fighting for Kiev is crap... totally corrupt and no air support and no artillery support in combat on the front lines because their planes get shot down and their artillery prefers to shoot civilians who don't shoot back, while the Russians have excellent air power and excellent artillery that is devastating the Orc armies... but you are pissing your panties over a lack of small drones for the LDNR...
Even the russians are saying they have a huge gap in drones and you still manage to say everything is fine. Stop your pro russian bullshit.
The sky is falling because troops on the front line don't have their own personal drone... stop your pro Orc bullshit...
Ukrainian managed to make a far better use of their chinese civilian drones than russians with their military drones.
Is that why they are in such a good position in this conflict?
Chinese drones turn tide for nazis... news headline never seen anywhere.
Their drone tech is shitty. Their production is worse.
Their special forces and artillery all seem to have drones, which are clearly doing the job.
The fact that truck drivers and cooks don't get their own drone is not actually a problem.
Russia is strugling finding few HIMARS that are runing on the front during the day without cammo.
No one said drones maje you win a war and are the only weapons there but they are valuable.
All of the rockets they fire directed at military targets are being shot down.... how many do you think HATO could shoot down before they run out of SAMs?
Funny all the planes and drones and artillery rockets shot down and no mention they might run out of SAMs from western sources... don't you think that is odd?
Western SAMs might be one per dozen HQs and the small number of SAMs they turn up with might be all they have been allocated... and still not hit anything with them...
But tiny short ranged suicide drones are important...
They manage to hit Odessa with them. Lancet et Kub have less than 40km range. Their warhead is also huge with a big fuel tank that burn the target.
It's a real power up for them.
Might come as a shock but their cruise missiles and air launched missiles and ship launched missiles and sub launched missiles often have ranges much greater than 40km and also bigger warheads too.
These drones are a huge step down in range and power... and they are noisy... if the enemy had plenty of AD available these drones wouldn't last long at all.... but at this stage of the conflict with most of Orcs AD destroyed or hiding and scared and concentrated defending their frontline positions, then drone attacks on the territory they hold will force the Orcs either to accept losses or to spread their AD thinner... making it even less effective.
Like I said and I can repeat it, maybe you will listen. Drones have their purpose and have much higher outcome on the battlefield if they are used to provide real time intel and provide targets for the Artillery. The Kamikaze drones or armed drones are useful mainly as psychological warfare tool to demoralize the already demoralized troops.
You are right.... western audiences love them because they come with video... and instead of being massively over priced like most military hardware they are only moderately over priced. Russia has been using cheap artillery shells and dumb rockets to massacre orcs in enormous numbers but the west is upset they are not using expensive drones instead...
Euh, yes the frobtline shifted and russians retreated and now are mobilizing.
Nothing at all to do with Orc use of drones which get regularly slapped down every day by AD.
Their drones are used effectively and their Himars too. With the few they had they managed to hit plenty of russian ammo stocks.
That is a lie... if they could use their drones effectively then Himars would be able to hit more than fixed targets like bridges and prisons holding nazi orcs who might tattle tale at an international court of law...
The fact that their drones are worse than useless means they don't hit the Russian military as much as they hit civilians at markets.
They also managed to hit a fucking airbase and destroy plenty of su-30 and su-24.
Blah blah blah....
Ukrainians are fighting very well even if they lack weaonery advantage.
They are fighting like nazis... their own civilians have more to fear than the Russian soldiers do.
Very good point, it is indeed sabotage. Not the systems but lax in the counter intelligence at the time.
I very much doubt a lack of counter intel on Crimea... I would expect an accident or fire or some such thing.
BTW it is interesting that they are talking about forward swept wing technology being used on drones.... this is excellent.
For those not familiar a swept wing means you can fly a bit faster with lower drag than with a straight wing, but if you look at early swept wing fighters a lot of them had wing fences on the tops.
This was to stop or reduce what is called spanwise flow where instead of flowing over the wing and creating lift (as well as a little drag), the airflow turns and travels down the sweep of the wing and leaves the wingtip creating a huge vortex that creates massive drag.
With a forward swept wing the spanwise flow moves inwards towards the fuselage and reaches the wingroot and does not create a giant vortex.
This means more lift and less drag so the wing can be smaller and lighter, which also means less drag and better lift... so you can use a smaller less powerful engine...
The core problem with a forward swept wing is when it generated lift it would flex up... which on a wing increased its angle of attack... which increases lift further which flexes it more.
With a conventional wing the wing would rapidly rip off, so composite materials were developed that could flex in one direction but not the other.
The X-29 is a T-38/F-5 aircraft used to experiment with forward swept wings in the US and was a neat little aircraft.
The main problem of course is that they are not great for supersonic flight and ideally the wing should be kept clean for best performance and rigidity so no wing pylons.
Not a problem for a 5th gen fighter with its weapons internally in bays, but not so good for other types.
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