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    Post  Regular on Thu May 14, 2020 1:58 am

    dino00 wrote:
    Regular wrote:Not so good news for Aventa-M users.

    It seems this ventilator is suspected to cause fires.

    https://tass.ru/obschestvo/8459185

    In use since 2012 only now causes fires...

    Yes, just one of the situations when it rains it pours. Could have overused or maybe it was dodgy units. Just have to wait for investigation as this is looked into very seriously. For now, use of them is suspend. They will probably get an upgrade as well, better than shelving them completely. It's good that Russia has substitutes and able to produce components.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Thu May 14, 2020 5:07 am

    https://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/20205132035-La9NX.html

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/13/coronavirus-who-officials-warn-of-vicious-cycle-of-economic-and-health-disasters-if-restrictions-are-lifted-too-quickly.html

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-13/china-seals-off-cities-near-north-korea-as-new-clusters-grow





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    Post  auslander on Thu May 14, 2020 9:03 am

    The fire in Moskau was in an 'unauthorized hospital'. Seems this one was caused by the existing electrical system could not carry the load put on it. Heads will roll, no doubt. Don't know about the other one.
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    Post  kvs on Thu May 14, 2020 5:06 pm



    Western Russia hating propagandists are staining their underwear with conspiracy theory fervour. The Financial Times
    uses uncited overall deaths statistics for Moscow and St. Petersburg to claim that Russian authorities are understating
    the number of Covid-19 deaths by 70%.

    Suppose the above was true. Then the "real" Covid-19 deaths for these two cities would be 1/0.3 = 3.33333 times
    higher. Gotcha...not.

    The deaths per million of the population in Russia stands at 15 officially. If we multiply this 10/3 we get 50 per million.
    Now compare to precious, self-declared superiour NATzO states:

    USA: 258
    UK: 495
    France: 415
    Germany: 94 (recall that Eastern Germany was where the BCG vaccine was used)
    Canada: 140

    So even with the evidence-free correction to the official numbers, Russia still has much fewer deaths than the "guiding lights"
    of humanity.


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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Thu May 14, 2020 5:39 pm



    https://nypost.com/2020/05/13/north-korea-mysteriously-locks-down-major-border-city/

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-seals-off-cities-near-north-korea-as-new-clusters-grow/ar-BB1414Ey

    https://asiatimes.com/2020/05/covid-19-tilts-the-future-toward-asia/?mc_cid=ebc8f93417&mc_eid=5455568640

    https://regnum.ru/news/society/2948674.html

    https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/05/stacked-coffins-in-mass-graves-covid-19-ravages-latin-america/

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/colombia-militarizes-border-with-brazil-amid-jump-in-virus-cases/ar-BB142hov


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    Post  dino00 on Thu May 14, 2020 8:08 pm

    kvs wrote:

    Western Russia hating propagandists are staining their underwear with conspiracy theory fervour.     The Financial Times
    uses uncited overall deaths statistics for Moscow and St. Petersburg to claim that Russian authorities are understating
    the number of Covid-19 deaths by 70%.

    Suppose the above was true.   Then the "real" Covid-19 deaths for these two cities would be 1/0.3 = 3.33333 times
    higher.   Gotcha...not.

    The deaths per million of the population in Russia stands at 15 officially.   If we multiply this 10/3 we get 50 per million.
    Now compare to precious, self-declared superiour NATzO states:

    USA: 258
    UK: 495
    France: 415
    Germany: 94 (recall that Eastern Germany was where the BCG vaccine was used)
    Canada: 140

    So even with the evidence-free correction to the official numbers, Russia still has much fewer deaths than the "guiding lights"
    of humanity.



    I predicted that, and I am very very very very very far from being a genius, really very far, you wouldn't believe how dumb I am lol1
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    Post  kvs on Thu May 14, 2020 8:16 pm

    One does not need to be a genius to see the brain-dead character of anti-Russian propaganda. The mere claim that Russia
    is an authoritarian state is 100% BS. The Covid-19 is further proof that western MSM coverage of Russia is rabidly biased
    and full of cheesy lies.

    BTW, in the above post I did not cover a detail that is rather important. Thanks to Covid-19, cancer and other patients are
    avoiding hospitals. In addition, lockdown generates stress from social isolation and job loss or furlough. Given the small
    number of deaths in Russia from Covid-19 it is easy for there to be indirect Covid-19 deaths that are similar in scale if
    not higher. Western media sources themselves point to the potentially larger number of deaths associated with lockdown
    around the world compared to direct Covid-19 mortality.

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    Post  Regular on Fri May 15, 2020 12:23 am

    auslander wrote:The fire in Moskau was in an 'unauthorized hospital'. Seems this one was caused by the existing electrical system could not carry the load put on it. Heads will roll, no doubt. Don't know about the other one.

    Not sure where did you get this information about unauthorised hospital?

    Sorry, this can't be further from the truth. It's not Sharashkin contor.
    No unauthorized hospitals exist in Russia. Maybe rehab centers, but even they are controlled because of Hari Krishna
    (and the like) sect members targeting vulnerable.

    Moscow's Spasokukotsky hospital is pretty high standard when it comes to treating cardiovascular diseases and it's world leading in some technology implementation.
    Please see article before the fire about their preparation to treat corona patients. It's pretty damn good hospital, Moscow doesn't really have bad ones it seems.
    https://www.mos.ru/en/news/item/72105073/

    There are almost daily updates in russian news about the fires as and it is covered it in a great detail. Aparantly, main suspect is still Aventa-M and not the way they were used. Currently investigator comitee are suspecting faulty batch.
    https://roszdravnadzor.ru/news/21853

    I wonder - do they disconnect patients and hook them up to other machines?? Knowing triage practices - it seems that these fires cost plenty of indirect deaths as well.

    Bashkiriya, Tatarstan and even Kazachstan are also not gonna use Aventa-M. Heads will roll definitely, even if only 6 people died. Really proud of speedy reaction by the gov and openness into this, you wouldn't hear this shit in Belarus or Ukraine.

    https://russian.rt.com/russia/news/746196-ispolzovanie-apparatov-ivl
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    Post  kvs on Fri May 15, 2020 12:35 am

    The TASS article describes the fire as being in St. Petersburg and not Moscow. Four patients died in the room where the fire started.
    I can see quality control suffering from the hurry to produce these devices but there really is no excuse. Either do it right or don't
    do it at all.

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    Post  GarryB on Fri May 15, 2020 4:59 am

    It is a case of... fully test them and let hundreds or even thousands of people around the world die waiting for these things, or get them to the hospitals and the one that fail can be replaced. I would expect only extreme faults would cause fires and most of the time they would just stop working, which means replacement makes more sense.

    A do it right 100% of the time or don't do it at all attitude means no one would be making them...
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    Post  kvs on Fri May 15, 2020 5:06 am

    GarryB wrote:It is a case of... fully test them and let hundreds or even thousands of people around the world die waiting for these things, or get them to the hospitals and the one that fail can be replaced. I would expect only extreme faults would cause fires and most of the time they would just stop working, which means replacement makes more sense.

    A do it right 100% of the time or don't do it at all attitude means no one would be making them...

    I am thinking of the assembly process. Cracking the whip over people soldering the wiring and associated electrical work and thus
    creating broken units is stupid. Hire more people to do the job instead of acting like western capitalist swine squeezing the
    last drop from workers to raise profits.

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    Post  kvs on Fri May 15, 2020 3:06 pm

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/russia/

    The active cases in Russia have hit an inflection point and are starting to decline (they are no longer exponential which would appear
    as linear on a log-y graph).
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    Post  dino00 on Fri May 15, 2020 3:09 pm

    kvs wrote:https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/russia/

    The active cases in Russia have hit an inflection point and are starting to decline (they are no longer exponential which would appear
    as linear on a log-y graph).

    The good thing is yesterday they made 225 thousand tests and only found ~10000 thousand people infected.
    But I'm afraid of the number of deaths that is climbing.
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    Post  kvs on Fri May 15, 2020 3:20 pm

    dino00 wrote:
    kvs wrote:https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/russia/

    The active cases in Russia have hit an inflection point and are starting to decline (they are no longer exponential which would appear
    as linear on a log-y graph).

    The good thing is yesterday they made 225 thousand tests and only found ~10000 thousand people infected.
    But I'm afraid of the number of deaths that is climbing.

    If you look at the deaths graph at the above link, it is not climbing (accelerating) . It is accumulating from existing cases and some fraction of
    the new ones. This is totally unavoidable. The good thing is that mortality per infected is small.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Fri May 15, 2020 4:43 pm

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    Post  Vann7 on Fri May 15, 2020 6:34 pm

    Sujoy wrote:
    GarryB wrote:Bill Gates perhaps read a book and saw Pandemics happen and air travel make them even more dangerous.... 300 years ago pandemics were largely contained because the one month boat trip from Europe to the Americas means most of those who were sick when they left didn't make it to where they were going...

    Or maybe because he intends to predict the future by creating it.

    Why else would a tech mogul try to venture into territories that are not his forte? Clearly he is up to something. Already the ill effects of the vaccination program that he sponsored in Africa is taking a big toll on individuals who were administered that vaccine.


    but don't waste your time arguing with that moron...
    The entire things of covid19 was planned and i posted videos of this warnings ,that china was going
    to be attacked by a virus.. years ago... by bill ryan anglo saxon mission.  @GarryB says he "predicts"
    a major war will happen.. Laughing   but that's because for him war is only fought with bullets.. he don't
    understand the concept of proxy war or slow war , or even less how dangerous is Russia position today
    and China too ,because the war began long time ago , just not directly.. The cold war war never ended
    as soon soviet union collapse withing months ,NATO began to target Russia forward positions close to
    Central europe ,in the balkans.. then chechen war began ,funded by putin's western partners.. then the georgian war ,then they planned the Arab spring too... then the ukraine war.. but idiots like @GarryB still think "there will be a war" Rolling Eyes when that war have been going on for many years.. in the previous cold war people die ,diplomats and ambassadors assassinated ,russian citizens arrested in their vacations abroad , families of Russian politicians too , chinese CEO kidnapped.  and he still believe there will be
    a war in the future lol1  but ignores the war is already going the major difference now ,is that now china
    is included in this war ,and they throwing everything they have.  and the war is no longer cold war.. but now the
    war is an indirect hot war ,Since Russia and china but also those not loyal allies in western europe attacked
    too , with this Covid19 plandemic event.. that is a biological attack on their enemies..

    They developed a virus in a US military facility and unleashed it in Russia very easily ,taking advantage
    of putin's incompetence and his naive belief that he can influence his enemies in the west with soft polite
    bullshit. Now this is it ..  what is next after this , is more biological weapons attacks , until the idiot in moscow
    no longer can take it anymore and the war goes nuclear..  

    if nukes will start flying soon or never ,nobody knows . might not even necessary if anglozionist powers
    manages to break china completely its economy forever..what is certain is ,that things will go very bad , and from bad to worse and they now focusing more in CHINA their hostilities ,because is the only nation fighting back them.. with their leadership in their high tech industry is a serious danger to the american empire , since empires don't survive without influence , US system will fail the day ,they no longer lead on any modern business , and china replaces those business. So they now throwing everything they have ,that is possible to do ,before using conventional bombs and nukes..

    1)media war  ... check
    2)economical war ...check
    3)biological war ... check...
    4)military conventional war or nuclear war ..are the only next steps.


    Fortunately not everyone is dumb and stupid , and @Sujoy for now will be the only voice of reason in this
    Plandemic thread.. (because i will likely be banned again..  Laughing )  most everyone else is full of idiots posting propaganda in this thread.. from bill gates vaccine lovers .. Laughing  To likely paid agents of disinformation -chinese haters , trying to divert the attention from what really is happening ,that is totally the opposite of  what anglozionist media or hong kong media is telling us.. .

    US now unleashed a biological war on china ,Russia and western europe , while minimizing as much as possible
    the collateral damage to allies.. while staging/faking an "out of control" pandemic in their country ,artificially
    inflating their numbers.. something it have been proven with facts they doing.. which is confirmation ,that they have some level of control over the virus , with the intensity it hits and where..  for sure most people they wanted to be vaccinated ,are already vaccinated from covid-19. this explain why trump and entire administration close to him ,don't use face mask anywhere. While at the same time people in russian government close to putin ,collapsing like flies.. including the prime minister and his right hand spokemen.. and his chief of hospital ,how embarrassing.  This is a clear  signal  that Putin's incompetence with Russia was not prepared to deal with a mass scale biological attack on his country. i always knew his  olympics and his tourism obsession was a bad idea
    in times Russia was facing a real war /economic war against his own nation existence. and worse idea ever to allow people travel without visa from those nations seeking to destroy Russia..  

    So this means ,it will not be surprising if Russia NEVER recovers from this plandemic event ever.
    because people in "suitcases" or containers with the virus and other virus ,had to be all across Russia ,waiting
    their turn ,to be activated  , and start new waves of virus attacks across russia major cities.


    Most important news recently.. not event covered by anyone..
    Trump now is officially saying will activate the military for forced vaccinations.. and even the difinformation
    trolls infiltrated in RT media ,calling this a "conspiracy" somehow.. when he himself told it..  No

    Why this is not being covered in this forum??  confused


    Trump.. We're mobilizing our military on the basis that we do have a vaccine. You know, it's a massive job to give this vaccine,” the president said. “Our military is now being mobilized so at the end of the year we're going to be able to give it to a lot of people very, very rapidly.”

    https://www.rt.com/usa/488691-trump-military-distribute-vaccine/


    Even Alex Jones in infowars is in a total meltdown ,, and angry about this ,he is saying he will not
    vaccinate with any bill gates vaccine no matter what trump says, Laughing   so im glad that idiot is back
    to reality or at least part of it... he have been duped .. for supporting his big ego president ,that he will do everything to remain in power ,even if that means leading the bill gates depopulation experiment..
    The response of general people is even worse.. calling trump a traitor. so if trump don't allow this forced
    vaccination to happen ,his popularity is over... ill rather see an evil women in power in US like clinton was..
    that everyone hates.. than to see someone that mislead americans with a false hope.. and so people don't
    protest ,thinking their leaders are with them.

    According to DR Dr Mikovits  those vaccines will be armed with biological substances , that will make more virulent ,more lethal and stronger many viruses and at same time supress the capability of the body to counter it.. naturally. So effectively ,the vaccines are designed for absolute control of their population by controlling their health , if you want to live ,you will need every year their vaccines ,to cure you from  their own viruses ,that they have plans to spread every year ,they will be injecting all americans in their bodies
     with bill gates trojan horse fake funded vaccines.  if they control your health ,they will control your life .
    and vast majority of people will not even dare to protest their government if their life depends on not doing it.

    @GArryB you can bann me again.. i don't give a shit . will continue expressing myself in any way
    i want..  but have fun with the bill gates lovers and paid anti chinese trolls ,filling this thread and every
    other with propaganda..  war is already going , and china is now the priority target ,for being the only
    country that effectively damaging US leadership position in their world with their business ,and outdated
    Putin's Russia will be the second one ,this is  because is outdated Putin's Russia is very easy for them to weaken , all they need to do ,is keep prices very low of oil ,and observe the major civil unrest happening later in Russia
    after a couple of years..  The only hope the world have today to stop the west,is china holding the pressure
    and maintain its leadership in modern business in the world and to keep the support of Asia... specially india.
    because Russia will not be able to help much china other than with gas discounts and weapons.

    the world will never be the same again after this plandemic , the first shots have been fired already , they trying to provoke china to target an american warship in south china sea ,, so to maximize their sanctions on china ,promoting a boycott on chinese techonology and business .. this is what the west want.. they hope to isolate china economy from the world.. but for that they can't do that alone without europe ,uk and australia support. neither without japan ,taiwan and south korea help... i will not be surprised if they start a new false flag,
    on their electrical power grid or a hacking false flag and blames china..


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    Post  dino00 on Fri May 15, 2020 7:27 pm

    ... meanwhile in the not insane world...

    Putin hopes COVID-19 vaccine will be registered in September

    https://news.ru/en/russia/putin-hopes-covid-19-vaccine-will-be-registered-in-september/

    I hope if Russia is the first to develop a vaccine it will be free to the whole world...I would not want to be the first to take it, but I don't want be the last either...share the stuff good man.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Fri May 15, 2020 8:57 pm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnU0yKLZLOo

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8wszDnqSVc

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O5HBvx_3-M

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSDrIRwU6Ns

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    Post  kvs on Sat May 16, 2020 6:05 pm

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/covid-19-deaths-top-300k-cases-top-45-million-brazil-russia-now-worlds-most-dangerous

    More fantasy projection BS. How does one define a hot zone? Number of daily cases or deaths?
    Let's take number of daily new cases for May 15:

    USA: 26,692
    Russia: 10,598 (an outlier spike sandwiched between 9,974 and 9,200.

    Both the USA and Russia have entered the slow downward trend in new cases. As of May 16, Russia had 9,200 new cases.
    So new cases clearly does not work as a hot spot metric.

    Now consider daily deaths:

    USA: 1,595
    Russia: 113

    Russian daily deaths are showing a pattern of peaking around 100 per day (with spikes above this number but running mean
    averages under it). So daily deaths does not cut it either.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/russia/

    The information at this site is the only thing of value. All the analysis and fake stream media coverage is not worth anything.

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    Post  Odin of Ossetia on Sat May 16, 2020 10:16 pm

    Odin of Ossetia wrote:



    Is This the Start of the Second Wave That Will Be Far More Deadly to Children?  Question


    https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/3-ny-children-die-of-virus-linked-syndrome/ar-BB13UoTg?li=AAggFp5&ocid=SKY2DHP



    Apparently there are also such cases in the U.K., and reportedly "a very small number" in Boston and Philadelphia.







    That might be it, and now the "reopening" is all the rage:


    https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/french-boy-dies-from-coronavirus-linked-kawasaki-disease/ar-BB14bdUQ?ocid=hplocalnews


    France has it too.

    And they were already saying weeks ago that the second wave might be much worse.



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    Post  GarryB on Sun May 17, 2020 5:17 am

    I have read reports that these new related viruses are not actually related and are a different problem all together...

    We need to see more evidence.... plus it shows the plan doesn't it... the new disease is being called the Kawasaki disease... the first one was called the Chinese disease...

    Is it much of a coincidence that China and Japan hold a huge slice of American foreign debt... is this really an American plot to blame China and Japan for world wide pandemics so they can write off the public debt they owe these two countries to get out of their responsibilities...

    Murder enormous numbers of people and turn the lives of billions of people upside down for their own interests.... of course they would...
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sun May 17, 2020 5:27 am

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMaaKshLm6o

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8wszDnqSVc

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/it-took-covid-to-expose-the-fraud-of-american-exceptionalism/

    https://www.juancole.com/2020/05/opposition-coronavirus-mandatory.html
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    Post  kvs on Sun May 17, 2020 5:01 pm

    https://twitter.com/andrewbostom/status/1261280948534104065

    Hey look, the UK regime is hiding Covid-19 deaths.

    That's applying the UK and NATzO fake stream media standard dealing with Russia.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sun May 17, 2020 6:20 pm

    https://www.ktuu.com/content/news/Worlds-largest-cargo-plane-landing-in-Anchorage-570097121.html

    https://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/content/20205151349-Nh207.html



    https://thehill.com/policy/defense/497987-usns-mercy-leaves-los-angeles-after-treating-77-patients

    https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/497936-number-of-americans-practicing-social-distancing-drops

    https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/498029-oil-cos-have-received-19-billion-in-tax-benefits-under-coronavirus

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