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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:37 pm

    Even if the US created this new virus & tested it last year at that nursing home in Virginia, it doesn't mean it was successfully introduced in China. http://nvo.ng.ru/realty/2020-04-10/1_1089_usa.html?print=Y

    There, it could.ve been isolated soon after, but escaped from the lab with an infected person. The French helped China to establish its 1st modern biolab, & her scientists worked at labs in Canada & possibly elsewhere in the West, & got material from there, So, it's 50-50.
    There were many man made disasters in China, & this outbreak is just the latest in this long list:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1642_Yellow_River_flood
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Industrial_fires_and_explosions_in_China
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938_Yellow_River_flood
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Banqiao_Dam_failure
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Kenpeng_mine_disaster
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaoqiao,_Kai_County
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Jilin_chemical_plant_explosions
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qinghe_Special_Steel_Corporation_disaster
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Guangxi_chemical_plant_explosions
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Type_094_accident
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Tianjin_explosions
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Xiangshui_chemical_plant_explosion
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_China

    https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-04-09-20/index.html?utm_term=1586429462494923664ae2b92&utm_source=Five+Things+for+Thursday%2C+April+9+2020&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=196966_1586429462498&bt_ee=pB3kgBEsSF5wrpwnBcUogsjpfO%2B0BeZYdDgOei4XWrJp0PA%2FY2jkOOhR5E%2B9nPar&bt_ts=1586429462498

    https://www.pravdareport.com/world/144473-coronavirus_aircraft_carriers/

    https://regnum.ru/news/society/2911541.html

    http://nvo.ng.ru/realty/2020-04-10/1_1089_covid19.html?print=Y

    The virus won't go away, but will change to a weaker form. It won't shut down everything we take for granted. Plague & other outbreaks still happen every few years; Covid19 will become a seasonal event after a few years, & there'll be a vaccine & treatment drugs.
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/09/health/us-coronavirus-thursday/index.html?utm_term=1586429462494923664ae2b92&utm_source=Five+Things+for+Thursday%2C+April+9+2020&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=196966_1586429462498&bt_ee=pB3kgBEsSF5wrpwnBcUogsjpfO%2B0BeZYdDgOei4XWrJp0PA%2FY2jkOOhR5E%2B9nPar&bt_ts=1586429462498

    https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/virus-stigma-sinophobia-and-ccp-hit-chinese-diaspora/

    https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/forget-a-coup-against-chinese-president-xi/?utm_source=The+Daily+Report&utm_campaign=bcf52ed5cc-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_04_09_09_40&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1f8bca137f-bcf52ed5cc-31607385&mc_cid=bcf52ed5cc&mc_eid=5455568640

    https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/how-religious-communities-are-coping-with-covid-19/?utm_source=The+Daily+Report&utm_campaign=bcf52ed5cc-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_04_09_09_40&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1f8bca137f-bcf52ed5cc-31607385&mc_cid=bcf52ed5cc&mc_eid=5455568640


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    Post  Vann7 on Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:07 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote: Even if the US created this new virus & tested it last year at that nursing home in Virginia, it doesn't mean it was successfully introduced in China. http://nvo.ng.ru/realty/2020-04-10/1_1089_usa.html?print=Y


    Even if i show you a video, of american soldiers in the olympics ,spreading the virus in wuhan market
    in china... you will come with bullshit excuses.. that it means nothing.. because you are in pure denial..
    just like your government that denies is aiding alqaeda and isis.. in syria.. but everyone knows they are in
    bed with international terrorism.. so is not lack of evidence the problem.. but that you are in complete
    denial , of any wrong doing by US military... so perhaps is you suffer from serious lack of common logic
    and any common sense.. or you are just trolling....  in the topic.  No

    you simply had not hope dude.. people like you is the reason your government continue aiding
    international terrorism in the world and destroying the future of Americans..spending the economy to lead
    illegal wars..and now biological attacks.. as long as dumb people continues defending their government ,the gov will feel that there will be no consequences for lying ,cheating ,stealing but also funding and arming terrorism and staging false flags.. as 9/11 and covid-19 in new york are.. in both people died.. but it was an internal job.
    not external.


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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:53 am

    Stop ur personal attacks! I don't need to prove anything as don't care what u believe in.
    The US supports certain terrorists/narco traffickers & fight others.
    As mentioned, the globalistic elites could stage this pandemic or use it to keep the US $ relevant, make $, & acquire real assets. The US Gov. may not be the culprit. For those who understand Russian:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13TJ0WQ4FZE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmJlwFj-7lE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCpkJqGzkoY

    If u don't understand them, besides many other reasons, u r not qualified to discuss this topic with me, period.

    ‘Disappeared’ Chinese research paper traced COVID-19 to China biolab in Wuhan

    https://www.pop.org/china-must-release-the-secret-records-of-the-wuhan-biolabs/

    Biosecurity in question at US germ labs Biosafety Level 4 labs in the spotlight as speculation swirls that Covid-19 may have emerged from such a facility


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    Post  Vann7 on Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:29 am

    When you have all Anglo-Jews controlled media in North America and United Kingdom ,Australia  
    on the same side as so called "independent media"  all united.. in promoting China as the enemy
    of the world , and the ones responsible for the virus as if they created it.. some even calling for
    a world boycott of their products.. you can see how desperate they are... into containing and isolating
    china after their biological attack.. failed to stop china..  

    this things doesn't happen by coincidence... that so many Anglo and jewish media
    and fake alternative media.. like vice news ,democracy now , infowars.. zero edge..
    all created anti chinese conspiracies.. is because the western elites ,are really desperate..
    and they are hoping that the European Union and the rest of the world follows them too..
    and start a major boycott..

    China needs to be held accountable for what it did: Retired Army General



    this is media war campaign in full mode.. CNN,FOX ,NBC ,Wapo,NYT either trump supporters or democrat supporters.. civilians they are all being bombarded 24 hours with anti chinese propaganda.. and accusing
    them from hacking the world,  stealing  the world,to "Attacking the world with a bioweapon" is crazy.. so even posted links that suggesting that China killed 20 millions of its citizens ,because of missing phones.. lol1  

    so lest summaize all the accusations against china.. that have been happening every day
    24 hours a day..
    1)that China is an "Evil nation"
    2)That China attacked the world with a bio weapon..
    3) that china is "stealing" western technology..
    4) that china is hacking the west.  
    5) that china interfere in elections
    6) that china is killing its doctors who speak and "tell the truth".
    7)that china murdered 20 millions of its citizens.
    Cool that china is a communist repressive dictatorship..
    9)that china is lying about recovering from the virus..
    10)that china products are low quality..
    11)claiming china made a pact with american elite bill gates.. soros.. Rolling Eyes

    is unbelievable the level of chinese phobia of the west ,including those who comes
    to this forums ,to recycle that crap in this forum again..

    lol1  lol1   lol1   lol1    lol1

    This is ridiculous .. how can a nation become so bad in so short time , Laughing  but those that don't
    pay attention , what is common in all accusations.. is that they provide zero evidence ,neither direct
    ,neither indirectly, that support their claims..
      Wink

    And this is the same media.. that have been promoting in Syria a big lie.. that NATO is "fighting Isis"
    "promoting democracy" and claiming that Assad was "using chemical weapons" on civilian women and
    children for near a decade already.. and same media that was defending alqaeda...and covering NATO financing ,arming and training terror organizations.. now is more of the same bullshit.. but this time is china the one they attack and accusing them of "attacking the world with a bio weapon".. some say.. or that it was an ops "accident" .  they also repeats the same arguments against Russia ,when they want to accuse them
    of a crime.. but is not easy to believe they will do such a thing.. then they tweak the story and say..
    it was an "accident"....

    here a report russia being accused of shooting down mh17 malaysia plane.


    An unnamed American intelligence official stated that Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 may have been shot down in error by pro-Russian separatists, citing evidence that separatists launched an SA-11 surface-to-air missile that blew up the Malaysian airliner.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17

    why NATO anglo powers and its minions claim it was an "Accident" ... because if they says it was intentional.. the story will not hold.. since Russia is not at war with malasyia.. and china is not at war with america or the world either..  So this is the reason of the invention of the "Accident in wuhan" because it will not hold the western
    story against china for the fact.. that china is not at war  with wuhan either.. but the "Accident" narrative ,helps to make their story more easier to believe.

    So the propagandist media from the anglo powers.. and its governments.. that have been accusing Russia of using chemicals on britain and stealing elections  Rolling Eyes  and supporting terrorism. Laughing  this is the same media now switching their guns towards China.. and this is because the west is afraid of China leadership in
    the world.. and taking the lead in business away of the west.

    Their goals are very simply.. to isolate chinese business from the world as much as possible..
    and Russia too.. CNN was even suggesting that Russia was hiding something with their so low covid19 numbers..
    so officially american and british news media no longer exist... they now exist to promote hate
    against adversary nations.. trying to promote hate on China and Russia too.. and a boycott world wide on chinese products.. this is an example how media is used by NATO to wage economic war on adversaries. with mainstream media..newspapers..

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    Post  jhelb on Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:39 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    Actually it is funny because in early February after they were briefed by their intelligence agencies a lot of US officials made a lot of changes to their stock portfolios... withdrew from a lot of stocks and increased their holdings in medical equipment producing companies... while publicly claiming there was nothing to worry about... made a lot of money most of them... but didn't seem to be in much of a hurry to warn anyone...
    And this begs a very important question - was COVID19/Coronavirus outbreak really a major intelligence failure or was there some other reason because of which Intelligence Bureaus' across the world chose not to report on this outbreak.
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    Post  GarryB on Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:59 pm

    Would like to see a major western intelligence success... I really don't think it is possible these days...

    Had to buy and sell stocks at just the right time to get the best return... couldn't start the panic too soon...
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    Post  jhelb on Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:11 pm

    GarryB wrote:Would like to see a major western intelligence success... I really don't think it is possible these days...

    Had to buy and sell stocks at just the right time to get the best return... couldn't start the panic too soon...

    But these guys can fix the price of stocks whenever they want to. They don't need a worldwide pandemic for that. Their policy w.r.t stock market is "Pump" & "Dump".

    First, artificially pump up the value of certain shares and then once the share price hits the desired level dump those shares.

    Be that as it may, we are now told that as far back as late November, U.S. intelligence officials were warning that a contagion was sweeping through China’s Wuhan region

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/intelligence-report-warned-coronavirus-crisis-early-november-sources/story?id=70031273

    Also, what about Russian intelligence or even German intelligence? They are not corrupt as US and UK. How could they not see this coming?
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:09 pm

    Remember the laughable alt-right trash diatribe and slander against Venezuela? The tables have turned in the US, empty grocery shelves (with no toilet paper), public parks to be used for mass graves, 17 million people lost their jobs, and now 'bread lines' to food banks that are lined with cars several km's in length:

    Bread Food Bank Lines
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    https://twitter.com/redfishstream/status/1248280793312526336

    https://twitter.com/Russ_Warrior/status/1248319905272913925


    Mass grave for Covid-19 victims just outside of NYC:
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    https://twitter.com/yashalevine/status/1248454017346240514


    17 Million Americans Have Filed For Unemployment

    https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/shocking-17-million-americans-have-filed-unemployment-past-3-weeks
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    Post  nomadski on Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:44 pm

    I thought that most black American victims of corona, with being overweight and diabetes and heart condition died. But all these coffin are same size, for narrower people. How could they fit fat black American, inside these standard coffin? Also the soil is soft. Further up photo, you can see, vertical boards, leightweight, left a mark on soft soil. But if you look at shoe of prisoner carrying the coffin, it is not sunk into soil, with weight of fat American, inside of it. And also one of the carriers, has arm bent, while lifting coffin. I think either Americans have lost weight or coffin empty. What you think. Look at Marks on ground. No visible footprints, downstream of coffins, where weight was greatest. Vann where are you?  We need high definition photo and analysis.

    CF :

    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/funeral-workers-injuries-obese-bodies-17080373

    Size and weight of heavy coffin.


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    Post  kvs on Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:51 pm

    The US fake stream media was in a tizzy when they showed satellite images of mass graves in Iran. With a high resolution that
    the US refused to provide in the case of Ukraine in 2014.
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    Post  kvs on Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:53 pm

    jhelb wrote:
    GarryB wrote:Would like to see a major western intelligence success... I really don't think it is possible these days...

    Had to buy and sell stocks at just the right time to get the best return... couldn't start the panic too soon...

    But these guys can fix the price of stocks whenever they want to. They don't need a worldwide pandemic for that. Their policy w.r.t stock market is "Pump" & "Dump".

    First, artificially pump up the value of certain shares and then once the share price hits the desired level dump those shares.

    Be that as it may,  we are now told that as far back as late November, U.S. intelligence officials were warning that a contagion was sweeping through China’s Wuhan region

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/intelligence-report-warned-coronavirus-crisis-early-november-sources/story?id=70031273

    Also, what about Russian intelligence or even German intelligence? They are not corrupt as US and UK. How could they not see this coming?

    You are assuming they did not see it coming. Did you expect public warnings from Russia before December? Why would Russia
    do that? To expose its intelligence gather capability? Russia had the correct response at the beginning of the pandemic and
    that was its only option.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:03 pm

    New York alone now has more confirmed coronavirus cases than any other country in the world outside of the US. Of the 466,299 total confirmed cases nationwide, about 162,000 are in New York, and things are going to get worse. Models show the US will probably reach its peak death rate on Sunday. States are rolling out even more restrictions to deal with the continued threat. New Mexico is using cell phone data to see if residents are abiding by social distancing rules, Hawaii is urging persistent travelers to stay away, and Utah has ordered everyone coming into the state to disclose their travel plans. After weeks battling each other and the federal government for critical supplies, some governors across the country are discussing a multi-state consortium that would increase their purchasing power, cut the competition and quickly get supplies to the areas most in need. https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/09/politics/governors-supply-chain/index.html?utm_term=1586514613984a36da08ad3d5&utm_source=Five+Things+for+Friday%2C+April+10+2020&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=197269_1586514613988&bt_ee=A18cs%2FEaou30fQuLsiMt6hapLhz2GoTDwtd1WMjIZVSft0QezFVPEGBZU0wxJ7Pi&bt_ts=1586514613988
    Follow the latest coronavirus updates here.

    https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-04-10-20/index.html?utm_term=1586514613984a36da08ad3d5&utm_source=Five+Things+for+Friday%2C+April+10+2020&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=197269_1586514613988&bt_ee=A18cs%2FEaou30fQuLsiMt6hapLhz2GoTDwtd1WMjIZVSft0QezFVPEGBZU0wxJ7Pi&bt_ts=1586514613988

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/10/health/us-coronavirus-friday/index.html?utm_term=1586514613984a36da08ad3d5&utm_source=Five+Things+for+Friday%2C+April+10+2020&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=197269_1586514613988&bt_ee=A18cs%2FEaou30fQuLsiMt6hapLhz2GoTDwtd1WMjIZVSft0QezFVPEGBZU0wxJ7Pi&bt_ts=1586514613988

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qrq4C6RSJx4

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGeZnn4Ljzo

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    Post  RTN on Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:48 pm

    Does anyone have any insight as to why Washington state has been so badly hit by COVID 19 outbreak ?
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    Post  Vann7 on Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:30 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:Remember the laughable alt-right trash diatribe and slander against Venezuela? The tables have turned in the US, empty grocery shelves (with no toilet paper), public parks to be used for mass graves, 17 million people lost their jobs, and now 'bread lines' to food banks that are lined with cars several km's in length:


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    17 Million Americans Have Filed For Unemployment

    https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/shocking-17-million-americans-have-filed-unemployment-past-3-weeks

    The entire thing is a show , A circus ,a self created crisis.. a False flag operation.. just like in 9/11 WTC attacks. people died there too.. and chaos ruled over new york too. but not for the reasons the government claimed..
    This is the Deep state government ,that is in control of US foreign policy , the ones creating this chaos..
    is a policy of controlled chaos... their goal is to deceive the world , that they are suffering a pandemic event
    that they were not prepared for it.. and most importantly , their major objective is fool the world , that
    Is not true.. China accusations that the virus , came with american soldiers delegation ,that were in the same
    place ,where the virus began.. because if it is proven that this was a man made biological weapon..
    and that bill gates in coordination with the pentagon ,are behind this attack on China.. the backlash worldwide
    will be so high.. that US will be isolated from the entire world..

    this have to be the reason ,why neither italy ,french or germany , perhaps spain too?.. don't allowed US planes to provide them with any kind of aid.. that could serve them as propaganda of caring about Europe..and only
    Russia and China were trusted to do that.. for comparisons.. US military provided help to Romania.. that is much farther ,from US major military headquaters in germany and italy. so the lack of participation of US military
    helping Europe ,not even food.. to its allies.. is really interesting to say the least.. it shows there is no trust
    on americans.. and relations are less than good.. perhaps they also think US is behind the biological attack on their countries? So US elites.. will have to work harder to create a major show... in america.. to make it look
    they are victims too of covid-19...

    is also interesting how they place the bodies of covid19 victims in land... knowing that the gasses that death bodies emanate ,could end escaping into the air.. with the virus.. Shocked The most safest way to deal with
    them is cremation.. turn their infested bodies in ashes.. but naturally ,that will not have as much impact on
    their show.. as it will be showing long lines of coffins.. and later claiming.. they are "chinese virus" victims. Rolling Eyes

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    Post  Vann7 on Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:45 pm

    nomadski wrote:I thought that most black American victims of corona, with being overweight and diabetes and heart condition died. But all these coffin are same size, for narrower people. How could they fit fat black American, inside these standard coffin? Also the soil is soft. Further up photo, you can see, vertical boards, leightweight, left a mark on soft soil. But if you look at shoe of prisoner carrying the coffin, it is not sunk into soil, with weight of fat American, inside of it. And also one of the carriers, has arm bent, while lifting coffin. I think either Americans have lost weight or coffin empty. What you think. Look at Marks on ground. No visible footprints, downstream of coffins, where weight was greatest. Vann where are you?  We need high definition photo and analysis.

    CF :

    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/funeral-workers-injuries-obese-bodies-17080373

    Size and weight of heavy coffin.

    good observation...
    tall people are out of luck... lol1
    notice how they put names on the coffins.. just the first name? so what purpose that have?  other than Propaganda purposes for cameras? if they want people to be identified ,they attach a paper with all information
    of who is there.. in that conffin.. full name.. his address.. and a certificate of death and cause of it..  this is all
    a show.. a circus ,what US is doing in new york.. a false flag.. and the weird part is that it doesn't look , like
    trump is behind this show..  he have to flow with the current of this  shadow government operation... but he
    doesn't look to be part of this false flag.. he even refused to wear face mask.. or neither encourage anyone
    to use them.. and this is in the nation that supposedly is the hardest hit by corona virus.. that its own government refuse to recommend to use face mask.. for protection lol1    So im sorry to dissappoint all americans who believe this is related with the virus in europe and in china.. what american experience is
    an internal fabricated event...  a distraction , to cover and hide their hands in their participation in the virus that europe,russia and china face.. and most of world face. the virus the cia using could be influenza.. or something else less lethal that will get people sick ..and is easy to control.. for them.. for nothing is called controlled chaos.. foreign policy of america..is because they heavily control the chaos they provoke.

    just think about this for a second..
    US hold press conferences for media every day.. and none in trump admin ,cover their face ,neither trump
    neither its generals.. so how they know no one in the press have contacted the virus when returning to their homes?  Neutral   why they so careless for their safety ?  Suspect
    even Boris johson according to UK claim got the virus ,  the primite minister of UK.. so if it could happen
    to the top executive of britain.. why it can't happen that in US ?  Putin's minister of health also got the virus..
    so why Trump and his administration ,pompeio ,pence ,so careless about covid-19?  he receive people ,without any quarantine ,shakes hands with them in white house.. with zero fear for covid-19.. it only shows that Trump and american elites are all vaccinated from the virus and immune to covid-19.. or that not even they face a virus crisis at all.. and what happens in new york is all a self fabricated crisis ,a distraction for the world to think.. they are victims too.. and people dying are not really consequences of any virus.. but natural causes..illness they had before the pandemic began.. on a normal day in new york city.. about 150 people die before this pandemic.. of illness or die of age.. so those coffins if they had people inside ,proof nothing..  if the bodies are tested by international team of forensic experts.. and shows no signs of covid19 ,that it will only add ,to the moutain of evidence that exist.. is a show.. what US elite are doing in new york city.
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    Post  kvs on Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:28 pm

    RTN wrote:Does anyone have any insight as to why Washington state has been so badly hit by COVID 19 outbreak ?

    Are there lots of Chinese there like in British Columbia? If so, then that explains it since tens of thousands of Chinese were traveling to
    the USA from China in January and February including from Wuhan. If their destinations in the USA were clustered then that is
    where the growth of the disease would be the fastest. One person can initiate a disease outbreak, but it is much slower than
    with thousands of initiators.

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    Post  kvs on Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:43 pm

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/stunning-footage-shows-homeowner-fighting-pair-home-invaders-killing-1

    This is what the criminal scum are engaged in. They are taking advantage of the overload on police resources from
    Covid-19. The above hits close to home for me, but I will not give details. Keep the scum in jail and put them
    in isolation. They can survive even a few months under those conditions.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:54 pm

    Trumpisms: Nov 08, 2013: "Leadership: Whatever happens, you're responsible. If it doesn't happen, you're responsible."
    Jan 22, 2020: "We have it totally under control. It's one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It's going to be just fine."
    Feb 02, 2020: "We pretty much shut it down, coming from China."
    Feb 22, 2020: "The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA... Stock Market starting to look very good to me!"
    Feb 25, 2020: "We have contained this..."
    Feb 26, 2020: "We're going very substantially down, not up. ... We have it so well under control. I mean, we really have done a very good job."
    Feb 26, 2020: "This is a flu. This is like a flu."
    Feb 26, 2020: "when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."
    Feb 28, 2020: "Coronavirus. This is the new hoax... You'll be fine."
    Mar 02, 2020: "They're going to have vaccines very soon."
    Mar 04, 2020: "We're talking about very small numbers in the United States."
    Mar 06, 2020: "Anybody who right now and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. The tests are beautiful."
    Mar 08, 2020: "No, I'm not concerned at all. No, I'm not. No, we've done a great job."
    Mar 06, 2020: "...we have very low numbers compared to major countries throughout the world. Our numbers are lower than just about anybody."
    Mar 12, 2020: "It's gonna go away."
    Mar 13, 2020: "No, I don't take responsibility at all."

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/coronavirus-32-deaths-massachusetts-veterans-home-prompts-federal-probe
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    Post  Odin of Ossetia on Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:13 am

    kvs wrote:
    RTN wrote:Does anyone have any insight as to why Washington state has been so badly hit by COVID 19 outbreak ?

    Are there lots of Chinese there like in British Columbia?   If so, then that explains it since tens of thousands of Chinese were traveling to
    the USA from China in January and February including from Wuhan.    If their destinations in the USA were clustered then that is
    where the growth of the disease would be the fastest.     One person can initiate a disease outbreak, but it is much slower than
    with thousands of initiators.



    There is a clear correlation between major COVID-19 outbreaks and the presence of a more significant ethnic Chinese community.

    In northern Italy there are reportedly hundreds of thousands of Chinese living there, and there is the largest number of COVID-19 infections and deaths in Europe.

    In Canada the four provinces with the largest ethnic Chinese communities - Ontario, British Columbia, Alberta, and Quebec - have also the biggest COVID-19 outbreaks. Quebec has the largest number of confirmed infections, while Ontario has the most deaths; I am a bit puzzled by Quebec since the Chinese do not have a considerable presence there. British Columbia is third while Alberta is fourth (there is a more significant Chinese community in Calgary). Interestingly the provinces with very few Chinese also have much fewer confirmed infections and deaths, even on a per capita basis, and these are Saskatchewan, Manitoba, and all the Atlantic provinces.

    Yes, lots of Chinese live in the metropolitan Vancouver, but I think some also live in and near Seattle.

    One oddity is Spain, where there is a big outbreak, second largest in Europe after Italy, but I am not aware of a significant Chinese presence in that country.



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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sat Apr 11, 2020 4:30 am

    Many infected Italians went to Spain to see a soccer match & many tourists from France, etc. come to Quebec- so no surprise there.

    https://www.janes.com/article/95442/covid-19-peru-sends-troops-to-border-with-ecuador

    https://www.pravdareport.com/world/144476-ecuador_covid/

    https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-russia-pneumonia/moscow-in-u-turn-to-assume-all-pneumonia-patients-may-have-coronavirus-idUKKCN21R2Y0

    https://sg.news.yahoo.com/muscovites-flee-coronavirus-shutdown-bringing-163130005.html

    https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/coronavirus-saudi-arabia-spreading-royal-family-report

    https://english.alaraby.co.uk/english/news/2020/4/8/did-the-pentagon-give-israel-1-million-face-masks

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/09/politics/sailor-teddy-roosevelt-unconcious-covid-modly/index.html

    https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2020-04-09/military-warns-of-coronavirus-breakouts-aboard-uss-nimitz-aircraft-carrier

    https://thehill.com/policy/defense/navy/492035-pentagon-expects-coronavirus-to-hit-more-navy-ships-after-first-outbreak

    https://www.juancole.com/2020/04/backward-equivalent-coronavirus.html

    https://thehill.com/policy/transportation/492082-airline-travel-has-dropped-96-percent-amid-coronavirus

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkjR_OmQypI

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHkimJlgmbc

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaEWzpMRITI


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    Post  GarryB on Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:21 am

    Also, what about Russian intelligence or even German intelligence? They are not corrupt as US and UK. How could they not see this coming?

    Russia seems to have contained the virus relatively efficiently which suggests they got the right intel at the right time and did the right things to prevent a serious outbreak within their borders...

    Can't say the same for the US or west in general...

    You are assuming they did not see it coming. Did you expect public warnings from Russia before December? Why would Russia
    do that? To expose its intelligence gather capability? Russia had the correct response at the beginning of the pandemic and
    that was its only option.

    Which raises a good question... what is the correct method... warn everyone straight away and put everyone in lock down immediately and create panic and economic suicide... or look at sources of the virus and limiting and restricting the flow of infected people to contain it.... while sending people to places badly effected like Italy to try to learn about the disease and develop defences against it... drugs to improve survival rates and of course antibodies to fight the disease and followed by a cure and then an immunisation solution for those that are not infected.

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    Post  jhelb on Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:15 am

    GarryB wrote:
    Which raises a good question... what is the correct method...
    Russia did warn the U.S about 9/11 and the Boston Bombing even before they occurred.

    Russia could have also warned friendly countries like Serbia, Kazakhstan and maybe even countries in Africa, Latin America and S-E asia. Russia did ban the entry of Chinese citizens into Russia but this development took place only after covid19 became a major outbreak.

    So clearly while the US, UK, potentially China are responsible for the spread of this virus there was clearly a major intel failure as well.
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    Post  nomadski on Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:24 am

    I was thinking, as I usually do, that each one of us, can find solutions. From the lowliest toilet cleaner, to the high and mighty University professor. Each from his ability. After thinking about corona being airborne in water vapour particles of 0.5 micron. And inhalation being source of infection, and the uselessness of surgical masks, not being airtight, and more expensive gas masks not being available and cumbersome to wear. Then I came up with my own cheap and easy solution.

    As long as one keeps mouth shut, while in high risk area, and breathes through nose only. Then industrial nose inserts can be used. These will fit the nostrils and form airtight seal. The filters in these work in the 20 to 60 micron range. Enough for pollen and bacteria. But these can be augmented with clinical filters of 0.2 micron. Simply cut two small round section and fit inside nose filters. But also exhalation vapour will block fine filter, through nose. So user must inhale through nose, but exhale through mouth.

    These are cheap, using existing equipment. Available or easy to mass produce in millions. And reusable. Eye protection can be normal plastic industrial safety goggles. These also are airtight. Cheap to mass produce. Available. What solution can you think of.......? How about the same device, but small UV light, in separate compartment, an air resirviour , killing virus, as it passes. No need for filters. Will this work....?

    https://youtu.be/aRvw7Wn8dB8

    These inserts can be used in conjunction with anti - viral gel, applied to nose. Together forming an airtight seal. The same treatment for ears. But can use medicated cotton wool.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sat Apr 11, 2020 7:26 pm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adY9AkIpEHo

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CexEtiPTT8c

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBu7cWXaR38

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61lMPfA8sT8

    https://news.google.com/articles/CCAiC2llakdZRnBUR2xnmAEB?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

    https://www.antiwar.com/  

    https://lenta.ru/news/2020/04/11/tyazhelo/

    https://www.unian.net/economics/transport/10955129-krupneyshiy-ukrainskiy-transportnyy-samolet-mriya-otpravilsya-v-pervyy-reys-posle-modernizacii-foto-video.html

    https://news.google.com/articles/CCAiCzYxbE1QZkE4c1Q4mAEB?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

    https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiENZ3cCkxr2fr-kMMWHb7454qGQgEKhAIACoHCAow4Zn5CjCu8uACMLTRlgY?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

    https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/04/11/why-royal-caribbean-carnival-and-norwegian-cruise.aspx

    https://nypost.com/2020/04/11/coronavirus-patients-can-suffer-lasting-bodily-damage/

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/11/politics/america-cant-beat-coronavirus/index.html


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    Post  Hannibal Barca on Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:44 am

    10% budget deficit is USA. Nobody ever recoved from something like this. It's over, it is clearly insolvent.

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