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    Post  Austin Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:25 am

    Good to have kvs back

    At the investment forum in Sochi 567 agreements for 968 billion rubles were signed


    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/117287/


    Interesting , 300 km/hr train , new double-track high-speed railway between the cities of Chelyabinsk and Yekaterinburg with a length of 220 km and with a speed of up to 300 km / h,


    RDIF and Siemens are investing in the high-speed railway in the Urals


    https://rns.online/transport/RFPI-i-Siemens-investiruyut-v-skorostnuyu-zheleznuyu-dorogu-na-Urale-2019-02-15/
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    Post  dino00 Sun Feb 17, 2019 1:04 pm

    Austin wrote:Good to have kvs back

    At the investment forum in Sochi 567 agreements for 968 billion rubles were signed


    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/117287/


    Interesting , 300 km/hr train ,  new double-track high-speed railway between the cities of Chelyabinsk and Yekaterinburg with a length of 220 km and with a speed of up to 300 km / h,


    RDIF and Siemens are investing in the high-speed railway in the Urals


    https://rns.online/transport/RFPI-i-Siemens-investiruyut-v-skorostnuyu-zheleznuyu-dorogu-na-Urale-2019-02-15/

    Investing in high-speed trains is a Smart decision.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sun Feb 17, 2019 1:53 pm

    Austin wrote:Good to have kvs back

    no, absolutely no lol1 lol1 lol1




    Austin wrote: Interesting , 300 km/hr train ,  new double-track high-speed railway between the cities of Chelyabinsk and Yekaterinburg with a length of 220 km and with a speed of up to 300 km / h,

    40-50 mins of ride So you can live in one and work in other. This is an increase of population mobility iconverst to extra % of GDP growth.
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    Post  kvs Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:02 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    slasher wrote:Nice to see you're back @kvs. Read your post and recalled reading this two days ago though.
    As US piles on sanctions, foreign investors pour more money into Russia

    Seemingly things were on the uptick. However, I see twitter abuzz now with the doom and gloom pundits goading investor fears and backlash over the Calvey & Baring Vostok affair. Always a fickle bunch I guess.

    Thanks.

    Foreign investment into Russia has been mediocre for the last 20 years.   This in large part thanks to anti-Russian propaganda spooking away
    investors and giving investors the wrong view that Russia is nothing more than a banana republic that does not have a diversified economy with
    substantial growth capacity.    

    As for 2018, the $99.6 billion increase was not due to investors pouring in money.   In fact, we had the usual drivel spewed by both Russian and
    foreign sources about "massive capital flight".  These liars include the $64.4 billion debt pay down as "capital flight".   The public information space
    is a sewer of lies, nonsense and omissions.  

    You got to remember digital news media is a poor driver of capital growth, their literally barely hanging on, so they have to resort to click-baiting to drive the necessary web traffic with their advertisement banners. This phenomenon is basically true in the West as well as in Russia.

    You are partly right. But the Russian mass media spectrum has a hard core pro-NATO sycophant component. There is no analog of this faction
    in western mass media. I cannot find any newspapers and TV news that reports a pro-Russian position in Canada (and France, and UK, and
    USA, etc.). In Russia you can find pro-NATO propaganda orifices such as the listed by GunshipDemocracy. These companies have been
    heavily influenced by pro-NATO oligarchs and even NATO money.

    The above tolerance for a 5th column mass media appears to be a historical affliction of Russia. Around 1900, Russian newspapers were controlled
    by anti-Czar political forces who wanted regime change in Russia. They would distort ethnic strife in various parts of the Russian empire into
    lies about poor victims of "pogroms" even when the victims were ethnic Russians. They never reported that the so-called "victim" groups were
    fully armed and instigating clashes.

    Now that I think about it, the 5th column press is an affliction of Latin American countries as well. Recall the big coup attempt against Chavez in 2002 which
    was the subject of the documentary "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised". Pro-US mass media were open participants in staging this coup attempt.
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    Post  kvs Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:54 pm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Grca_L4FvQg

    A well known and respected investor in Russia's economy, Michael Calvey. There has already been a spasm of hysteria about Russia's "shame"
    in touching this angel of goodness. It looks like he was defrauding the Russian bank of which he was a leading shareholder.

    Note that he was arrested during the Sochi investor forum so there was no "optics management". The clamp down on shady banks in Russia
    has been harsh especially after 2015 and the attempt by NATO to cut Russia off from affordable bank loans. The Russian government has
    committed the worst sin in the monetarist religion of regulating the banking sector. Naturally, real world results are that the Russian banking
    sector is becoming more profitable and is better able to serve the Russian economy. And big bad government is also acting quash all the parasites
    who used small, shady banks to launder money and engage in shady financing.

    The above video has a funny bit about how the US is now on an EU black list for overly slack regulation of the banking sector. And the perennially
    maligned Russia isn't on this black list.

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    Post  slasher Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:31 pm

    Yes but 5th columnist media cannot establish themselves unless there is fertile ground to do so. I am not Russian, and look to them out of hope for providing us the opportunity for a more balanced and diverse world order. But I have come to realize over the past years that Russians seem to have a penchant for self-destruction and revolution, an apparent itch to constantly challenge the prevailing order to instigate chaos out of some righteous moral indignation/conviction formented from within. A country as large and diverse as Russia needs a strong central authority to govern and keep the nation together, but at the same time this ultimately becomes the very source of frustration and anger from within, and gives external powers a clear bullseye to aim at from without. Patriotism and nationalism can be forcefully indoctrinated yes, but history has shown this backfires and cannot be sustained. Such sentiments must primarily come from deep within a people, their culture and shared values/beliefs, and who are not so easily stirred nor susceptible to foreign manipulation. It's sad to see how so many people, in so many countries I might add, seem to take more pride in how Westernized they are, how they live and think, than in their own ancestral heritage. The architects of a unified world order have never been so close to seeing their dream become reality, and the costs, though staggering, go completely unreported or even discussed. For the price of being sold a fairytale of Western utopian idealism, fancily decorated in empty slogans about 'freedom' and 'democracy', Russians seem all too eager to drop their guard and sell out their country and their soul. As has been their experience throughout, only when they realize what they have lost, the painful and expensive task of rebuilding must begin all over again.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:34 pm

    kvs wrote:


    You got to remember digital news media is a poor driver of capital growth, their literally barely hanging on, so they have to resort to click-baiting to drive the necessary web traffic with their advertisement banners. This phenomenon is basically true in the West as well as in Russia.

    You are partly right.   But the Russian mass media spectrum has a hard core pro-NATO sycophant component.   There is no analog of this faction
    in western mass media.     I cannot find any newspapers and TV news that reports a pro-Russian position in Canada (and France, and UK, and
    USA, etc.).   In Russia you can find pro-NATO propaganda orifices such as the listed by GunshipDemocracy.    These companies have been
    heavily influenced by pro-NATO oligarchs and even NATO money.


    The question nos is how long and to what degree could it be tolerated before real problems start? here is something called NLP. After folks read/ liten thousand of times they start using this vocabulary.  How could Russian media write:

    Assad regime (but US govt)

    self-proclaimed Donetsk Republic (but president of Kosovo)

    Crimea annexation  (but not homeland reunification?)

    Russian mercenaries  - but Acdemi employees


    And this you can red in Tass or Ria even! nobody is controlling journos? perhaps it is time to force western standards:  you write pro western stuff you work somewhere else.


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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:39 pm

    slasher wrote:Yes but 5th columnist media cannot establish themselves unless there is fertile ground to do so.

    i.e. sponsors and protectors in elites



    A country as large and diverse as Russia needs a strong central authority to govern and keep the nation together, but at the same time this ultimately becomes the very source of frustration and anger from within, and gives external powers a clear bullseye to aim at from without. Patriotism and nationalism can be forcefully indoctrinated yes, but history has shown this backfires and cannot be sustained. Such sentiments must primarily come from deep within a people, their culture and shared values/beliefs, and who are not so easily stirred nor susceptible to foreign manipulation.

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    [quote=[slasher"]It's sad to see how so many people, in so many countries I might add, seem to take more pride in how Westernized they are, how they live and think, than in their own ancestral heritage. The architects of a unified world order have never been so close to seeing their dream become reality, and the costs, though staggering, go completely unreported or even discussed. For the price of being sold a fairytale of Western utopian idealism, fancily decorated in empty slogans about 'freedom' and 'democracy', [/quote]

    weren't Utopia's uthor Thoms Moore decapitated? the best example how Utopia ends in the west
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    Post  kvs Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:06 pm

    slasher wrote:Yes but 5th columnist media cannot establish themselves unless there is fertile ground to do so. I am not Russian, and look to them out of hope for providing us the opportunity for a more balanced and diverse world order. But I have come to realize over the past years that Russians seem to have a penchant for self-destruction and revolution, an apparent itch to constantly challenge the prevailing order to instigate chaos out of some righteous moral indignation/conviction formented from within. A country as large and diverse as Russia needs a strong central authority to govern and keep the nation together, but at the same time this ultimately becomes the very source of frustration and anger from within, and gives external powers a clear bullseye to aim at from without. Patriotism and nationalism can be forcefully indoctrinated yes, but history has shown this backfires and cannot be sustained. Such sentiments must primarily come from deep within a people, their culture and shared values/beliefs, and who are not so easily stirred nor susceptible to foreign manipulation. It's sad to see how so many people, in so many countries I might add, seem to take more pride in how Westernized they are, how they live and think, than in their own ancestral heritage. The architects of a unified world order have never been so close to seeing their dream become reality, and the costs, though staggering, go completely unreported or even discussed. For the price of being sold a fairytale of Western utopian idealism, fancily decorated in empty slogans about 'freedom' and 'democracy', Russians seem all too eager to drop their guard and sell out their country and their soul. As has been their experience throughout, only when they realize what they have lost, the painful and expensive task of rebuilding must begin all over again.

    If we want to discuss the truth of 5th column activity we have to leave the reservation of political correctness far behind. So I will try to avoid it
    and hope that people will use their brains and not be saps who are easily told what to think.

    One factor about the current world order is the "Mecca" syndrome. The perceived wealth is located in the holy west and the USA in particular.
    So every business and businessman aligns with this "Mecca" and defers to its "wealth authority". At the same time they do not have faith in
    their local "poor" country, people and government. That is why elites around the world are such whores for the US led "west" (aka NATO).
    And the elites local to NATO are naturally not going to be aligned against "Mecca" but will be 100% loyal.

    The above asymmetry explains a lot of the mass media behaviour outside of NATO. Media companies reflect the thinking of their owners and also
    the employees who believe in the same "Mecca" as their bosses. So they are voluntary conformists to the NATO fairy tale and its propaganda
    narratives. I will omit discussion about the near-ethnic aspect of this sedition as can be seen in the open contempt for the Russian public by
    the liberasts. They call Russian voters "chattel" for not voting for US approved parties and candidates and call for the restriction of the voting
    rights of the majority. Some democracy advocates!

    I think it is futile to look for any place on planet Earth to inspire a new and better world order. What I describe above is a universal pathology of
    humanity. Humans will flock to the light of wealth and easy living. And they will construct any BS "morality" to justify it. The fraction of humanity
    who do not conform to this mode is very small. Russia is lucky it has Putin who is immune to NATO bribery. That is why he is accused of being
    corrupt (as Yeltsin wasn't) and running some kleptocracy. Cheap, spiteful lies spewed by losers. Take large scale Russian development projects
    as a metric of the alleged corruption. Russia completes the vast majority of its megaprojects basically on time and on budget. Meanwhile similar
    projects in the squeaky clean NATO west are rotten to the core such as the case of the reconstruction of the Berlin airport (billions over budget
    and years delayed). If you want to have a reasonable system, then you need the right people in the posts. No system is immune to bad people
    in key posts.
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    Post  franco Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:45 pm

    A much more subtle and sophisticated "1984" came to be in the USA in 2004. The rest of the West slowly comes on line.
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    Post  miketheterrible Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:51 pm

    Russian media besides RT is failing in general. It's getting the lowest in terms of viewers and approval ratings. RT believe it or not continues to grow with viewers. Blogs are increasing and generally, blogs like sdelanounas grows considerably.

    TASS just states the basics. They will post what both sides says even if it is Russian government controlled. Now Gazprom actually owns a very anti Kremlin newspaper and it gets a lot of head scratching going on.

    People wonder why nationalism in Russia continues to grow regardless amount of media attacks? Because the government allows it. It has become so easy for the average person to see the bullshit being spewed that even common Russian realizes that west has nothing to offer. Especially now since many had a chance to go there and see it for themselves. Plus the US makes itself look bad.

    A belief right now is that liberal media does more harm to itself than what any other media outlet can say against the liberal media. I particularly like Vesti news as they have a English subtitles section on YouTube and they have great reporting.
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    Post  kvs Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:37 am

    miketheterrible wrote:Russian media besides RT is failing in general. It's getting the lowest in terms of viewers and approval ratings.  RT believe it or not continues to grow with viewers. Blogs are increasing and generally, blogs like sdelanounas grows considerably.

    TASS just states the basics. They will post what both sides says even if it is Russian government controlled. Now Gazprom actually owns a very anti Kremlin newspaper and it gets a lot of head scratching going on.

    People wonder why nationalism in Russia continues to grow regardless amount of media attacks? Because the government allows it. It has become so easy for the average person to see the bullshit being spewed that even common Russian realizes that west has nothing to offer. Especially now since many had a chance to go there and see it for themselves. Plus the US makes itself look bad.

    A belief right now is that liberal media does more harm to itself than what any other media outlet can say against the liberal media.  I particularly like Vesti news as they have a English subtitles section on YouTube and they have great reporting.

    I agree. Unlike the early 1900s, the Russian 5th column MSM is utterly failing at shaping public opinion in Russia. Russia was supposed to undergo a regime change around the
    2011 presidential election. But the masses were simply not agitated into the streets and it flopped completely. The overthrow of the Czar was easier because masses of people
    could be mobilized into the streets like sheep where secondary events such as "bloody Sunday" were then successfully used to bootstrap a revolution by foreign sponsored agents
    such as Trotsky and Lenin. There are not Trotskys or Lenins in the wings to stage a revolution in Russia today. The Russian people are not as easily hoodwinked by street
    theater. Not that Navalny and friends have stopped trying hard to stir up street theater.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:20 am

    PDVSA has denied reports about the freezing of its accounts in Gazprombank

    The company called the publication of this information an attempt to harm the work of the oil industry PDVSA "false news"

    https://tass.ru/ekonomika/6128352



    Media: protesters in Haiti burned the US flag and asked Russia to help the country out of the crisis

    According to the TVA channel, the protesters opposed Washington’s interference in the affairs of the country.

    https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/6127954




    franco wrote:A much more subtle and sophisticated "1984" came to be in the USA in 2004. The rest of the West slowly comes on line.

    hmm why only in 2004? unshaven unshaven unshaven
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:36 am

    miketheterrible wrote: TASS just states the basics. They will post what both sides says even if it is Russian government controlled. Now Gazprom actually owns a very anti Kremlin newspaper and it gets a lot of head scratching going on.  

    this means either Uncle Vova sees benefits weighting over cons or he simply cannot close it . Yet.

    MtG wrote: People wonder why nationalism in Russia continues to grow regardless amount of media attacks? Because the government allows it. It has become so easy for the average person to see the bullshit being spewed that even common Russian realizes that west has nothing to offer. Especially now since many had a chance to go there and see it for themselves. Plus the US makes itself look bad.

    Nationalism? this is death for  Russia, patriotism is what they need. Why Russian Slav should hate Belorussians, Chechens or Buryats? If they start then ll is lost.


    @Mike -Russian "liberal"  press: British govt :  GRU  agents were in  Solsberry.

    Before converge or column starts always  should be comment like:  : UK regime  claims something without providing any proofs. Same as they did in case of Iraq, Libya or Syria.
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    Post  franco Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:55 am

    franco wrote:A much more subtle and sophisticated "1984" came to be in the USA in 2004. The rest of the West slowly comes on line.

    hmm why only in 2004? unshaven unshaven unshaven [/quote]


    It took until 2003-2004 for the media to be taken under control by the corporations.
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    Post  Austin Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:40 am

    A trillion-dollar conversation: agreements for a record amount were concluded at the Russian Investment Forum

    https://iz.ru/846549/irina-tcyruleva-inna-grigoreva/razgovor-na-trillion-na-rossiiskom-investitcionnom-forume-zakliucheny-soglasheniia-na-rekordnuiu
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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:35 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote: TASS just states the basics. They will post what both sides says even if it is Russian government controlled. Now Gazprom actually owns a very anti Kremlin newspaper and it gets a lot of head scratching going on.  

    this means either Uncle Vova sees benefits weighting over cons or he simply cannot close it . Yet.

    MtG wrote: People wonder why nationalism in Russia continues to grow regardless amount of media attacks? Because the government allows it. It has become so easy for the average person to see the bullshit being spewed that even common Russian realizes that west has nothing to offer. Especially now since many had a chance to go there and see it for themselves. Plus the US makes itself look bad.

    Nationalism? this is death for  Russia, patriotism is what they need. Why Russian Slav should hate Belorussians, Chechens or Buryats? If they start then ll is lost.


    @Mike -Russian "liberal"  press: British govt :  GRU  agents were in  Solsberry.

    Before converge or column starts always  should be comment like:  : UK regime  claims something without providing any proofs. Same as they did in case of Iraq, Libya or Syria.

    They quote British media to show local Russians how stupid British citizens are. It works too.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:17 am

    miketheterrible wrote: They quote British media to show local Russians how stupid British citizens are.  It works too.

    I hope you're right MTT,  Im  afraid however that you are overestimating  journos.   Most of folks in any country read mostly headers.  This is huge field for NLP manipulation. Impose words,expressions and schemes  to program your world's perception.




    Medvedev announced the need to support the microelectronics industry

    The production of domestic microelectronics is still lagging behind, special support measures are needed, since the country's security issues are largely related to this industry, said Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev.
    At a meeting of the head of the Cabinet with the Deputy Prime Ministers on Monday, the participants discussed, among other things, the issues of supporting the production of microelectronics. Medvedev noted that this is a sought-after product, it is sold everywhere and is used everywhere. The prime minister drew attention to the fact that these products are an essential base for a wide variety of devices: from home appliances to satellites.

    As long as all of us are developing not very successfully in this direction, then we need some special ideas and special measures of support, because this is a question largely related to the security of the country, it should be treated and given special attention and , accordingly, to use non-standard support measures ", - said the head of the Cabinet.
    https://ria.ru/20190218/1551037980.html



    Borisov - I like this guy  thumbsup  thumbsup  thumbsup

    Borisov proposed to create on the basis of the Era technopolis design centers for radio electronics

    Vice Prime Minister noted that this can be done quickly and without financial costs.
    ANAPA, February 13th. / TASS /. Deputy Prime Minister Yury Borisov proposed the creation of design centers for various areas of radio electronics based on the military innovation technopolis Era.

    “The spirit of the project with its high scientific potential would correspond to the creation on the basis of the Era of several design centers in various areas of radio electronics. I would focus on this because they can be created quickly and without serious financial costs. The main thing is the presence of highly qualified specialists” - said Borisov, speaking at a meeting on the development of "Era".

    According to him, recruits were recruited in Era, having passed a good competitive selection, first in all the leading universities of the country, then for the right to serve in the technopolis (wanting eight people per place).

    “Essentially, a technopolis should become a“ factory ”that produces new technologies for modern weapons in the interests of the army. Consider transferring technologies in the opposite direction - from the defense industry to the civilian sector. Internet ", - said Deputy Prime Minister.

    He clarified that the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation is the owner of a huge number of results of intellectual activity, some of them can be claimed by civil enterprises. "Era" could become a showcase. In my opinion, this would greatly contribute to the diversification of the defense-industrial complex set by our Supreme Commander, "added Borisov.

    On the territory of "Era", created in the autumn of 2018, several dozens of defense companies operate, four scientific companies have been established. The general management of the cluster research projects is carried out by the President of the Kurchatov Institute National Research Center Mikhail Kovalchuk.

    https://tass.ru/ekonomika/6109969
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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:57 am

    Yes, I like the idea of Era technopolis. I hope to eventually see Mikron and MCST in there. MCST is a very important company and a strategic asset since majority of Russia's military tech uses MCST circuits. Which now is hitting civil sector with the Elbrus processors. Already ineum is releasing newer computers with Elbrus 8 and Elbrus 8cm is supposed to be released this year.

    As medvedevs statement: Russia's microelectronics industry is growing and increasing export sales and contracts, but not quick enough I agree. Which in this case, government should be given a task to make sure to purchase domestic in order to increase production rates and increase revenue of the companies.

    MCST/Ineum and Kraftway could make billions in selling their computers to all government organizations - schools, hospitals, research centers, nuclear and energy, etc. The Elbrus processors show great performance in heavy calculations in Linux OS which all is ideal for those very sectors. Home PC is a different matter.
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    Post  Vann7 Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:11 am

    slasher wrote:Yes but 5th columnist media cannot establish themselves unless there is fertile ground to do so.

    Quoted for truth..

    In other words.. 5th column people can only grown when the government
    have little influence over them..  Putin wants all Russians to follow his views
    of the future of Russia.. but for that to happen , he needs to be FIRST a LEADER..
    people likes to follow leaders.. people don't follow weak and insecure people..as Putin is..

    and if Putin wants patriotism.. promoting the good old past this is all temporary ,and can be
    easily countered with money .. But if you build a nation people feel proud about it ,because
    of its LEADERSHIP role in the world... then you will not see so much 5th column.. for the same
    reasons People likes to follow leaders.. Students likes to be part of a Successful nation..  if Russia
    was leading the world in top advanced innovative business and space explorations.. then it will be
    every day ,like winning an olympics...  But putin waste a fortune in totally temporary things and
    don't offer any competition to their adversaries.. the Americans.. . Someone once told me..
    Russia culture ends on its borders.. and this could not be more truth.. and this is part of Russia problem.. when you have a President like Putin , that live in the past.. and promotes only sports and weapons ,and good old times  ,you are not influencing the newest generations of society that will be the leaders of the future.. So the fertile ground = is a country with poor influence over its society ,
    specially the young generations ,because the old people no longer have ambitions over the future..
    So Putin could promote a lot of patriotism for example ,landing in the moon or mars with humans..
    and contrary to Sochi ,that lasted the celebrations 1 or 2 weeks.. leading and defeating Americans in space will be a topic of discussion for decades and not only in Russia but the entire planet..
    So i blame Putin for the massive 5th column in Russia..  when people see their country only survives
    but not LEAD in the world .. and they see Americans leading , in everything with their culture and business.. this is what creates the 5th column in Russia.. the lack of hope for their nation ..

    When Ivanka Trump was in munich and also Lavrov, she promoted her Nation and used the same argument ,that every one pro US and pro NATO use.. that Russia is an outdated nation. and that US is a modern country. Russian culture don't influence anyone.. but american modern culture do influence almost everyone in Russia.. everyone love American iphones.. american movies ,Batman ,superman and American music..American high tech companies and entertainment industry and also every love NASA rovers in mars.. so this is what is all about 1)Leadership and 2)Influence.. the most important words , that any president of Russia needs to remember at all times.. It is those 2 words , what will make the difference .   How to defeat the 5th column?  with Leadership and influence ,
    everyone can be influenced..  Money can influence anyone ,but Leadership is the most powerful of all influence.. if you impress people with your Leadership ,and teach them ,things and goals that are worth of fighting ,they will follow you to any place.. no matter what ..since everyone needs to a goal in life ,and most times they are leaderless ,don't have anyone to guide them.. Russia needs a real leader with vision of a modern Russia that DON"T sit iddle ,when observe Americans leading in the world with their innovative modern business. and is kind of funny how China is doing the things
    that i was hopping Russia to do.. They are the ONLY ones fighting back the American empire..
    notice how Trump needs to negotiate with China ,because his trade war with CHina failed...
    but with Russia , Americans can sanction it forever and will have zero impact in their economy.. because Putin's Russia have zero influence over its adversaries.. even your enemies can be influenced.. everyone can be.. is all about Leadership.. whether your country have it or not.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:20 am

    franco wrote: It took until 2003-2004 for the media to be taken under control by the corporations.

    Im afraid 84 was earlier much earlier than in 84. Media in Us have always been in hands of tycoons.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:26 am

    miketheterrible wrote:Yes, I like the idea of Era technopolis. I hope to eventually see Mikron and MCST in there. MCST is a very important company and a strategic asset since majority of Russia's military tech uses MCST circuits. Which now is hitting civil sector with the Elbrus processors. Already ineum is releasing newer computers with Elbrus 8 and Elbrus 8cm is supposed to be released this year.

    As medvedevs statement: Russia's microelectronics industry is growing and increasing export sales and contracts, but not quick enough I agree.  Which in this case, government should be given a task to make sure to purchase domestic in order to increase production rates and increase revenue of the companies.

    MCST/Ineum and Kraftway could make billions in selling their computers to all government organizations - schools, hospitals, research centers, nuclear and energy, etc.  The Elbrus processors show great performance in heavy calculations in Linux OS which all is ideal for those very sectors. Home PC is a different matter.

    Areed. But mind:
    IoT,  aerospace, ai, robotics, household, industry -  everywhere you need MC  >  Medvedev was about

    But you need not only Microelectronics  but also people who know "the stuff" This was talking  Borisov about.



    yes yes yes vote for Volodin


    Volodin instructed to check the media, who wrote about the ban on the purchase of cars without a garage

    MOSCOW, February 19. / TASS /. State Duma Speaker Vyacheslav Volodin instructed the Duma committees to check the media, which published information that a ban on selling cars to persons who have no parking space for the purchased vehicle is allegedly being discussed in parliament.

    “Colleagues, if you don’t mind, we’ll instruct the Information Policy Committee, Security and Anti-Corruption Committee to sort out this issue, to study who is the founder of this media, to report this issue to us. Invite [the portal representatives] to the committee meeting, [ ask] why these fakes are distributed, who is behind them, what source of information ", said Volodin
    .

    “We are talking about responsibility,” he added, noting that the published information should be verified.


    https://tass.ru/obschestvo/6132915



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    Post  Vann7 Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:47 pm

    The Munich conference was a major turning point - or a continuation of it..
    after the Friendship treaty between Germany and France.. that the military of both
    nations will help each other , in case of terrorist (or American army) choose to use
    force against germany to remove their Government and install a puppet new government..
    using the venezuelan sketch.. of one auto proclaimed president..  that US backup..

    In Munich Conference recently .. that lavrov represented Russia..
    a major change in European public opinion happened.. basically vice president Pence looked
    very sad person there. US was without a doubt the biggest loser there.. Basically Europe ,the
    American colonies are in rebellion.. with US..  and to listen merkel promoting a multi polar
    world , was eye opening..  Shocked  We witness today a very rebellious europe ..over US..
    and the things that provoked this was major conflict of interest (red lines)  that US crossed
    with Europe.

    those are..

    - Unilaterally Leaving the INF treaty with Russia , this treaty was created for Europe security..
      and US leave it..
    - leave the 5+1 Iranian deal , after Europe and Obama administration spend 6 years working on it to get it done to open all Iran to European business in change  of the end of IRAN working on enrichment  of nuclear program..and other things.. Even UK wanted this .. and Europe invested
    a fortune in IRAN and Trump made Europe lose a lot of money..
    -US sanctions of Russia aluminium business ,that threatened major loses for European car makers and other business
    - Finally US demands on Nord Stream 2 ,that is very good business for Europe and will
    significaly help Europe reduce a lot the cost of energy ,that people even protesting on the streets..

    So basically US isolated itself from Europe ,by disrespecting Europeans sovereignty and
    their interest..  The Europeans , (it seems to me) by now should now ,that if they capitulate
    on Nord Stream 2 ,a legitimate business , that the Americans will not be happy with just that
    and will continue ,making more ridiculous demands.. that Europe pays more for security
    of Americans.. and that stop all trading with Russia destroying European economy .

    In my opinion if Russia get away with Nord stream 2 ,it will be game over for US control over Europe
    , this will incite major rebellions across all Europe against US demands.. However things are not over yet.. in my opinion US will start a new war somewhere ,to provoke Russia to fight , like a
    major war with Ukraine or a major war in Serbia ,to get Europe behind NATO or provoke Russia into
    a major incident with Poland..a false flag ,another Malasyan plane like incident ,where a Polish civilian airliner taken down and Russia airforce blamed for it. to tie the hands of Europe , and block their trade with Russia.


    http://thesaker.is/munich-conference-showed-that-america-is-losing-ground/



    This does not means that the world will become peaceful overnight.. since Europe also have their
    own Elites and Global ambitions.. only that Russia will be able to bypass US sanctions . but Europe
    and Russia might continue facing conflict of interest.. as France and germany for example have with Russia over Syria and venezuela.. So is a major relief for Russia economy but will not necessarily end US and NATO interferences and wars. now more than ever Russia needs to Influence Europe
    now that US position is weakened.. and become an alternative to US..for the Europeans.. only that
    will disband NATO and completely remove US from Europe..


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    Sanctions cost Russia $6.3bln in 2018, says Economy Ministry



    MOSCOW, February 19. /TASS/. Various restrictions, including economic sanctions, introduced by other countries cost Russia $6.3bln by late 2018, according to the estimates of the Economic Development Ministry presented on Tuesday.

    These restrictions include anti-dumping duties, licensing, quotas, technical barriers, sanitary and phytosanitary measures and also economic sanctions.
    Russia suffered the biggest loss ($2.42bln) due to restrictions introduced by the EU countries. US sanctions cost Russia nearly $1.17bln, and Ukraine’s restrictions were the third hard-hitting to the tune of $775mln, the ministry said.

    The European Union ranks top in terms of the number of restrictions (25), while Ukraine imposed 22 restrictions on Russia. India took the third spot for the number of restrictions, while the United States came sixth with just nine restrictions, falling behind Belarus and Turkey. By the end of 2018, 62 countries imposed a total of 159 restrictions against Moscow.

    The heaviest blow was dealt to Russia’s metallurgy industry, which lost more than $3.99bln, the survey showed. The agricultural industry sustained damage to the tune of $1.1bln and the chemical sector was the third hardest-hit industry in Russia, with the loss of $640.7mln. The restrictions also inflicted significant damage to Russia’s automobile industry, which was estimated at $306mln, according to the Economic Development Ministry.

    The United States and the European Union imposed sanctions on Russia in 2014, following the developments in Ukraine and Crimea’s reunification with Russia. The sanctions have been extended and expanded ever since.

    http://tass.com/economy/1045324
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:56 pm

    Nibiru wrote: Sanctions cost Russia $6.3bln in 2018, says Economy Ministry

    while here cost = quotas planned to sell but not sold


    Looks like recession is on  lol1  lol1  lol1

    Tax revenues in the consolidated budget of Russia increased by 23% in 2018

    The head of the Federal Tax Service Mikhail Mishustin stressed that this is the maximum increase since 2013

    “The consolidated budget in 2018 received 21.3 trillion rubles, which is 4 trillion rubles, or 23%, more than the corresponding period of 2017. This is the maximum increase since 2013,” Mishustin said, noting that in 2017 revenue was 20%.

    The federal budget received 11.9 trillion rubles, which is 30.2% more than in 2017.

    The amount of income from income tax amounted to 4.1 trillion rubles, from VAT - 3.6 trillion rubles, from personal income tax - 3.7 trillion rubles, from property taxes - 1.4 trillion rubles.
    “The consolidated budget in 2018 received 21.3 trillion rubles, which is 4 trillion rubles, or 23%, more than the corresponding period of 2017. This is the maximum increase since 2013,” Mishustin said, noting that in 2017 revenue was 20%.

    The federal budget received 11.9 trillion rubles, which is 30.2% more than in 2017.

    The amount of income from income tax amounted to 4.1 trillion rubles, from VAT - 3.6 trillion rubles, from personal income tax - 3.7 trillion rubles, from property taxes - 1.4 trillion rubles.

    https://tass.ru/ekonomika/6137007



    sanctions passed? so where are those cough cough experts claiming in media that after sanctions Ruble crashes ? or t les will be 100rub/$? affraid affraid affraid


    https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/USDRUB:CUR

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