Bretty boy packing his bags right now...
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Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Kurds could save themselves by inviting Russians and SAA in exchange for giving Kurdish majority areas autonomy in post war Syria.
ATLASCUB wrote:Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Kurds could save themselves by inviting Russians and SAA in exchange for giving Kurdish majority areas autonomy in post war Syria.
Even if that were the case ...too little time. They preferred to lose Afrin than hand it to Assad/Russia - keep that in mind. The boasting about Turkey getting bogged down etc - the impenetrable Afrin fortress - all propaganda their little peons bought up. Syria is better suited if these shitstains disappeared from the map completely - as in - their whole structure blown to smithereens (not Kurd genocide obvs).
Turks will be moving in soon anyway so....meh.
The boasting about Turkey getting bogged down etc
BKP wrote:Tomorrows headline:
ASSAD UNLEASHES NEW GAS ATTACK AGAINST CHILDREN
medo wrote:US Army leaving Syria mean only one thing and this is, that US is running out of money. US have record high defense budget on paper, but it is filled with credits, not by created money and selling of US Tbonds doesn't go well as mayor buyers are selling them now, not buying and US budget doesn't have enough money. US still have to pay their Tbonds obligations, so they have to cut money to other sectors. It will not last long, when US will go bankrupt as they will not have enough money to pay their obligations. The World doesn't need US dollars and US Tbonds any more. The game is comming to the end.
ATLASCUB wrote:It will be interesting to see if Trump can actually pull this off instead of a watered down version that's meaningless - which I'm sure the bureaucracy will try to pull off - and are in the process of sabotaging right now.
Lets consider that:
The Pentagon brass wants to stay (overwhelming majority of it).
The CIA wants to stay.
The Europeans want America to stay (Brits, French, Germans, Dutch etc)
The Gulf Monarchs (Saudi's/Emirates etc) want the U.S to stay.
The Israeli's and their lobby want the U.S to stay.
The U.S MIC wants the U.S to stay.
The Neo-cons in his party and his cabinet want him to stay.
The neo-liberals in the Dem party want him to stay.
The media organs (MSM) wants him to stay.
The think tanks want him to stay.
The Kurds want him to stay.
a lot of opposition from American war profiteers.
starman wrote:ATLASCUB wrote:It will be interesting to see if Trump can actually pull this off instead of a watered down version that's meaningless - which I'm sure the bureaucracy will try to pull off - and are in the process of sabotaging right now.
Lets consider that:
The Pentagon brass wants to stay (overwhelming majority of it).
The CIA wants to stay.
The Europeans want America to stay (Brits, French, Germans, Dutch etc)
The Gulf Monarchs (Saudi's/Emirates etc) want the U.S to stay.
The Israeli's and their lobby want the U.S to stay.
The U.S MIC wants the U.S to stay.
The Neo-cons in his party and his cabinet want him to stay.
The neo-liberals in the Dem party want him to stay.
The media organs (MSM) wants him to stay.
The think tanks want him to stay.
The Kurds want him to stay.
But most of these groups are not very passionate about this or not very influential. Strong as the Israel lobby is, for example, the zionists never needed US troops in the region. This move has incurred surprise and opposition among some congressmen but not very much.
a lot of opposition from American war profiteers.
But not the US public.
ATLASCUB wrote:
Guy Verhofstadt
Verified account @guyverhofstadt
Guy Verhofstadt Retweeted The Washington Post
"A victory for Russia, Iran, Turkey, Turkish proxies & the Syrian regime. Unsurprisingly, it leaves Europeans more vulnerable - and shows how wrong it is that we do not have a defence force able to help stabilise our immediate neighbourhood."
For anyone still in doubt about the purpose of the so called European Army (Defence Force)....
Secretary of Defense James Mattis resigned Thursday, citing policy difference with his Boss, President Trump, on the heels of the President's decision to withdraw troops from Syria.
“Because you have the right to have a Secretary of Defense whose views are better aligned with yours on these and other subjects, I believe it is right for me to step down from my position,” Mattis wrote in his letter.
The U.S public has had little say for decades on foreign entanglements. They've been voting for "restrainers" for decades and gotten cheated every single time because this bureaucracy supersedes them and has made it an art of boxing presidents politically to get what they want.
ATLASCUB wrote:
Those groups are the ones that rule the United States and engineer its foreign policy. What do you mean they're not influential? They're literally the American manifestation of power.
Vann7 wrote:It looks like Trump was serious on his demand for US troops leaving Syria.. whether the Pentagon
will obey the commander in chief or not is a different story..
.... seems Trumps is truly pushing the pentagon to abandon the major conflicts in
Syria and Afganistan... and end the waste of spending ..
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