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Russian Ground Forces: News #2
Walther von Oldenburg- Posts : 1725
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You mean the RPG-29 that hit Challys LFP which is 90 mm LOS?
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The problem with the notion of intrinsic superiority of western wunderwaffen is that it does not conform to reality. How
can countries like the USA where science and math are seen as nerd pathology and actively repressed by peer pressure
in schools produce cadres needed for innovation in products where physics and mathematical rigour are paramount?
MIT is composed of post-docs imported from around the world. Americans are a minority in their own premier Technical
Institute. Americans do not go into physics careers, they worship money and try to make it big in business.
The oft repeated claim that America's dollar wealth somehow gives it magical innovation ability is simply not credible.
All it gives is grossly overpriced products and does not determine their quality. America still has not implemented
reactive armour on its tanks? Why? Are they only prepared to attack 3rd world countries while beating their
chests how they can take out Russia and China together? How about supersonic and hypersonic missiles? For
a country that depends on WWII era dinosaurs called air craft carriers, it sure is cocky about them not being
sunk in the middle of the Pacific or the Atlantic.
I am not saying that American weapons are totally useless. But there is no way that they are automatically the
best in the world.
can countries like the USA where science and math are seen as nerd pathology and actively repressed by peer pressure
in schools produce cadres needed for innovation in products where physics and mathematical rigour are paramount?
MIT is composed of post-docs imported from around the world. Americans are a minority in their own premier Technical
Institute. Americans do not go into physics careers, they worship money and try to make it big in business.
The oft repeated claim that America's dollar wealth somehow gives it magical innovation ability is simply not credible.
All it gives is grossly overpriced products and does not determine their quality. America still has not implemented
reactive armour on its tanks? Why? Are they only prepared to attack 3rd world countries while beating their
chests how they can take out Russia and China together? How about supersonic and hypersonic missiles? For
a country that depends on WWII era dinosaurs called air craft carriers, it sure is cocky about them not being
sunk in the middle of the Pacific or the Atlantic.
I am not saying that American weapons are totally useless. But there is no way that they are automatically the
best in the world.
GarryB- Posts : 40398
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Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2
Most development requires money and where they do excel is travelling around the world looking for good ideas and smart people and offering to fund their research... of course once they start funding it they then own it and move it all to the US where it becomes American technology for China or whomever to steal.
It is funny the US complaining about other countries stealing their technology when half of it they stole themselves... the worlds biggest spy network is run by the US for the US, so it is amusing when they complain.
It is funny the US complaining about other countries stealing their technology when half of it they stole themselves... the worlds biggest spy network is run by the US for the US, so it is amusing when they complain.
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miketheterrible- Posts : 7383
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Well, that's the other thing. Like their tanks, M1, they use British Armor and German gun. Nothing American about it other than the gas hog engine. But oh man talk bad against it and Americans goes mad. Even though it's an overpriced, gas consuming hog with 4 man crew (no autoloader) with spotty reliability and shown to have lack of protection against atgm's.
Leopard 2 same thing.
Not saying Russian tanks are all the better either but at least they admit T-72B in basic form won't survive such hits and hence why they were heavily upgraded to be able to survive a hit or two.
Leopard 2 same thing.
Not saying Russian tanks are all the better either but at least they admit T-72B in basic form won't survive such hits and hence why they were heavily upgraded to be able to survive a hit or two.
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Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2
Good old T-62M used in Syria has no reactice armour, only so called horse-shoe add-on armour at the front of the turret but even this version survived hits by western ATGM´s.
The M1 TUSK has reactive armour. Really interesting, for 20+ years the muricans were saying that it is shit, that it is dangerous for the infantry… BUMM! A few tanks lost in Iraq and all ill feelings towards it are gone.
Main point is that it is no good to just compare virtual data put out by the manufacturer or some PR department of an army, but to see actually what a weapon can do in a real war. And Syria/Iraq/Yemen have shown that russian weapons are working, that they do their job, compared to some western stuff that is completely overrated.
The M1 TUSK has reactive armour. Really interesting, for 20+ years the muricans were saying that it is shit, that it is dangerous for the infantry… BUMM! A few tanks lost in Iraq and all ill feelings towards it are gone.
Main point is that it is no good to just compare virtual data put out by the manufacturer or some PR department of an army, but to see actually what a weapon can do in a real war. And Syria/Iraq/Yemen have shown that russian weapons are working, that they do their job, compared to some western stuff that is completely overrated.
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New elite tank unit
As reported by the press service of the Western Military District on March 16, 2019, among the servicemen of the [1st] Guards Tank Army of the Western Military District launched a competitive selection to serve in positions in the crews of the legendary T-34 tanks as part of the newly formed battalion of vintage equipment that arrived from Laos.
Only servicemen, both on conscription and under contract, who serve in positions in tank units on T-72B-3, T-80U and T-90S tanks, can participate in the competition. Selection includes theoretical and practical steps. Soldiers and sergeants need to answer questions about the history of the creation of the T-34 tank, its structure and design, as well as pass no less than “excellent” passage of the route on a regular tank at the tankdrome with obstacles. Additional assignment for officers - professional vocational training.
Currently, the competition among military personnel for the right to join the crews of the legendary T-34 tanks exceeded 13 people per seat. Applications were filed by soldiers, sergeants and officers serving in Moscow, Moscow and Nizhny Novgorod regions.
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3572492.html
As reported by the press service of the Western Military District on March 16, 2019, among the servicemen of the [1st] Guards Tank Army of the Western Military District launched a competitive selection to serve in positions in the crews of the legendary T-34 tanks as part of the newly formed battalion of vintage equipment that arrived from Laos.
Only servicemen, both on conscription and under contract, who serve in positions in tank units on T-72B-3, T-80U and T-90S tanks, can participate in the competition. Selection includes theoretical and practical steps. Soldiers and sergeants need to answer questions about the history of the creation of the T-34 tank, its structure and design, as well as pass no less than “excellent” passage of the route on a regular tank at the tankdrome with obstacles. Additional assignment for officers - professional vocational training.
Currently, the competition among military personnel for the right to join the crews of the legendary T-34 tanks exceeded 13 people per seat. Applications were filed by soldiers, sergeants and officers serving in Moscow, Moscow and Nizhny Novgorod regions.
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3572492.html
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Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2
George1 wrote:New elite tank unit
As reported by the press service of the Western Military District on March 16, 2019, among the servicemen of the [1st] Guards Tank Army of the Western Military District launched a competitive selection to serve in positions in the crews of the legendary T-34 tanks as part of the newly formed battalion of vintage equipment that arrived from Laos.
Only servicemen, both on conscription and under contract, who serve in positions in tank units on T-72B-3, T-80U and T-90S tanks, can participate in the competition. Selection includes theoretical and practical steps. Soldiers and sergeants need to answer questions about the history of the creation of the T-34 tank, its structure and design, as well as pass no less than “excellent” passage of the route on a regular tank at the tankdrome with obstacles. Additional assignment for officers - professional vocational training.
Currently, the competition among military personnel for the right to join the crews of the legendary T-34 tanks exceeded 13 people per seat. Applications were filed by soldiers, sergeants and officers serving in Moscow, Moscow and Nizhny Novgorod regions.
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3572492.html
Instead of this propaganda battalion they could have fielded another battalion of T-72B3s or perhaps T-80BVMs with all these tankists.
Or is it just a part-time duty for servicemen assigned permanently to proper tank units?
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Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2
flamming_python wrote:George1 wrote:New elite tank unit
As reported by the press service of the Western Military District on March 16, 2019, among the servicemen of the [1st] Guards Tank Army of the Western Military District launched a competitive selection to serve in positions in the crews of the legendary T-34 tanks as part of the newly formed battalion of vintage equipment that arrived from Laos.
Only servicemen, both on conscription and under contract, who serve in positions in tank units on T-72B-3, T-80U and T-90S tanks, can participate in the competition. Selection includes theoretical and practical steps. Soldiers and sergeants need to answer questions about the history of the creation of the T-34 tank, its structure and design, as well as pass no less than “excellent” passage of the route on a regular tank at the tankdrome with obstacles. Additional assignment for officers - professional vocational training.
Currently, the competition among military personnel for the right to join the crews of the legendary T-34 tanks exceeded 13 people per seat. Applications were filed by soldiers, sergeants and officers serving in Moscow, Moscow and Nizhny Novgorod regions.
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3572492.html
Instead of this propaganda battalion they could have fielded another battalion of T-72B3s or perhaps T-80BVMs with all these tankists.
Or is it just a part-time duty for servicemen assigned permanently to proper tank units?
Suspect very much that is part time... Russian Army doesn't have the spare bodies to play Heritage War games.
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Armor on ice: troops in the Arctic received spetsbuldozery
Machines are designed to destroy enemy fortifications and pave roads
The arctic brigades included special bulldozers. They are fully armored and can withstand grenade explosions, small-arms fire, and even anti-tank missiles. A special bulldozer is designed not only for road construction works, but also for evacuating vehicles under fire and destroying enemy fortifications. The machine is fully autonomous and well adapted to work in the North: its engine starts at temperatures up to –60 degrees.
https://iz.ru/845814/aleksei-ramm-bogdan-stepovoi/bronei-po-ldu-voiska-v-arktike-poluchili-spetcbuldozery
Machines are designed to destroy enemy fortifications and pave roads
The arctic brigades included special bulldozers. They are fully armored and can withstand grenade explosions, small-arms fire, and even anti-tank missiles. A special bulldozer is designed not only for road construction works, but also for evacuating vehicles under fire and destroying enemy fortifications. The machine is fully autonomous and well adapted to work in the North: its engine starts at temperatures up to –60 degrees.
https://iz.ru/845814/aleksei-ramm-bogdan-stepovoi/bronei-po-ldu-voiska-v-arktike-poluchili-spetcbuldozery
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Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2
From Victory Parade rehearsal in Alabino
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flamming_python- Posts : 9516
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Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2
Getting the Iran-vibe from those quad-buggies and pick-up trucks.
Russia has definitely taken on some of the experience of the Middle Eastern theater into it's own armed forces makeup.
Russia has definitely taken on some of the experience of the Middle Eastern theater into it's own armed forces makeup.
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Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2
flamming_python wrote:Getting the Iran-vibe from those quad-buggies and pick-up trucks.
Russia has definitely taken on some of the experience of the Middle Eastern theater into it's own armed forces makeup.
I think they simply realized that dirt cheap ATV or pick-up beats walking
Good enough to approach general vicinity of the enemy before engaging on foot
And if you need to bail quickly via aircraft you can just leave that stuff behind after putting couple of rounds through the engine, it's military equivalent of toner cartridge
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Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2
Indeed and a small trailer could carry fuel and ammo and a backpack while having one person per bike means the ability to carry a heavy weapon and plenty of ammo for it too... PKP machine guns, various rocket launchers and missiles, and a trailer with fuel that can either be topped up at a refuelling site or dumped when empty... I mean as a trailer it can be very basic and simple and cheap... and could be used as two spare tires once it is empty in an emergency...
Hell you could even gift them (bikes) to the locals when you leave if you are working with local groups... add a few Toyota highaces and they might be your best friends...
Hell you could even gift them (bikes) to the locals when you leave if you are working with local groups... add a few Toyota highaces and they might be your best friends...
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George1- Posts : 18490
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Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2
Victory Parade night rehearsal photos
1. Tank T-72B3
2. "Tigr" Rosgvardia
3. Armored car "Patrol"
4. Armored car "Patrol"
5. "Ural"
6. "Ural"
7. Tank T-72B3
8. "Tiger-M"
9. "Typhoon-K"
10. "Typhoon-U"
11. Tiger-M and BTR-MDM
12. BTR-MDM and "Yars" at the Elysee
13. ...and "Boomerang"
14. "Yars"
15. "Tigr-M" with a combat module "Arbalet" cover "Yars"
16. "Tiger-M" with a combat module "Arbalet"
17. Combat buggy Chaborz
18. MLRS "Smerch" and "Iskander-M" at the beginning of the rehearsal
19. "Tor-M2"
20. MLRS "Smerch"
21. MLRS "Smerch"
22. "Iskander-M"
23. 152-mm self-propelled gun "Msta-S"
24. 152-mm self-propelled gun "Msta-S"
25. ATGM "Kornet-D1"
26. "Kornet-D1" and "Tigr-M" with "Arbalet" module
27. BTR-82A and Kornets in the background
https://saidpvo.livejournal.com/829498.html
1. Tank T-72B3
2. "Tigr" Rosgvardia
3. Armored car "Patrol"
4. Armored car "Patrol"
5. "Ural"
6. "Ural"
7. Tank T-72B3
8. "Tiger-M"
9. "Typhoon-K"
10. "Typhoon-U"
11. Tiger-M and BTR-MDM
12. BTR-MDM and "Yars" at the Elysee
13. ...and "Boomerang"
14. "Yars"
15. "Tigr-M" with a combat module "Arbalet" cover "Yars"
16. "Tiger-M" with a combat module "Arbalet"
17. Combat buggy Chaborz
18. MLRS "Smerch" and "Iskander-M" at the beginning of the rehearsal
19. "Tor-M2"
20. MLRS "Smerch"
21. MLRS "Smerch"
22. "Iskander-M"
23. 152-mm self-propelled gun "Msta-S"
24. 152-mm self-propelled gun "Msta-S"
25. ATGM "Kornet-D1"
26. "Kornet-D1" and "Tigr-M" with "Arbalet" module
27. BTR-82A and Kornets in the background
https://saidpvo.livejournal.com/829498.html
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Advanced silent mortars start arriving for Russian Army
According to a defence industry source, the 2B25 mortar is capable of silently destroying a target at a distance of over 1 km
MOSCOW, May 7. /TASS/. The Russian Army has started to receive the most advanced 2B25 ‘Gull’ silent mortars, a source in the defense industry told TASS on Tuesday.
"The deliveries of 2B25 silent mortars to the troops have begun. In particular, special-purpose units received several dozen such mortars recently. During its operation, the Gull proved its worth as an easy-to-operate and reliable weapon, which is actually stealthy," the source said.
The 2B25 mortar is capable of silently destroying a target at a distance of over 1 km, the source added.
The deliveries of 2B25 mortars to the Russian Army will be continued, the source said, without giving any other details.
Russia will further carry out its work to improve silent mortars, the source noted. "Currently, specialists are studying the possibility of developing a silent mortar of a smaller caliber, presumably, a 60mm gun capable of striking targets at a distance of up to 3.5-4 km."
The 82mm 2B25 ‘Gull’ mortar has been developed by the Burevestnik Central Research and Development Institute (part of the Uralvagonzavod defense manufacturer within the state hi-tech corporation Rostec). The mortar’s stated characteristics suggest that it is capable of striking targets at a distance of up to 1,200 m and at a rate of fire of 15 rounds per minute. The 2B25 is currently the sole silent mortar on the world arms market.
More:
http://tass.com/defense/1057266
According to a defence industry source, the 2B25 mortar is capable of silently destroying a target at a distance of over 1 km
MOSCOW, May 7. /TASS/. The Russian Army has started to receive the most advanced 2B25 ‘Gull’ silent mortars, a source in the defense industry told TASS on Tuesday.
"The deliveries of 2B25 silent mortars to the troops have begun. In particular, special-purpose units received several dozen such mortars recently. During its operation, the Gull proved its worth as an easy-to-operate and reliable weapon, which is actually stealthy," the source said.
The 2B25 mortar is capable of silently destroying a target at a distance of over 1 km, the source added.
The deliveries of 2B25 mortars to the Russian Army will be continued, the source said, without giving any other details.
Russia will further carry out its work to improve silent mortars, the source noted. "Currently, specialists are studying the possibility of developing a silent mortar of a smaller caliber, presumably, a 60mm gun capable of striking targets at a distance of up to 3.5-4 km."
The 82mm 2B25 ‘Gull’ mortar has been developed by the Burevestnik Central Research and Development Institute (part of the Uralvagonzavod defense manufacturer within the state hi-tech corporation Rostec). The mortar’s stated characteristics suggest that it is capable of striking targets at a distance of up to 1,200 m and at a rate of fire of 15 rounds per minute. The 2B25 is currently the sole silent mortar on the world arms market.
More:
http://tass.com/defense/1057266
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The first photo of an unknown self-propelled gun on the basis of "Vityaz" appeared on the web
Images of an unusual combat vehicle appeared on the web. The photographs depicted an armored two-link tracked carrier of the "Vityaz" family transported on a trailer - trawl.
ts peculiarity is that on the base of the second “half” a rotating tower with a caliber of at least 120 mm is mounted. Details of the design can not be seen, since everything is securely covered with a tarpaulin.
It is possible that before us is the Magnolia self-propelled artillery, the development of which was reported in 2017. The machine is designed to arm the formations deployed in the Arctic.
https://rg.ru/2019/05/07/pervoe-foto-neizvestnoj-samohodki-na-baze-vitiazia-poiavilos-v-seti.html
To see the pictures
https://andrei-bt.livejournal.com/1288669.html
Images of an unusual combat vehicle appeared on the web. The photographs depicted an armored two-link tracked carrier of the "Vityaz" family transported on a trailer - trawl.
ts peculiarity is that on the base of the second “half” a rotating tower with a caliber of at least 120 mm is mounted. Details of the design can not be seen, since everything is securely covered with a tarpaulin.
It is possible that before us is the Magnolia self-propelled artillery, the development of which was reported in 2017. The machine is designed to arm the formations deployed in the Arctic.
https://rg.ru/2019/05/07/pervoe-foto-neizvestnoj-samohodki-na-baze-vitiazia-poiavilos-v-seti.html
To see the pictures
https://andrei-bt.livejournal.com/1288669.html
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dino00 wrote:The first photo of an unknown self-propelled gun on the basis of "Vityaz" appeared on the web
Images of an unusual combat vehicle appeared on the web. The photographs depicted an armored two-link tracked carrier of the "Vityaz" family transported on a trailer - trawl.
ts peculiarity is that on the base of the second “half” a rotating tower with a caliber of at least 120 mm is mounted. Details of the design can not be seen, since everything is securely covered with a tarpaulin.
It is possible that before us is the Magnolia self-propelled artillery, the development of which was reported in 2017. The machine is designed to arm the formations deployed in the Arctic.
https://rg.ru/2019/05/07/pervoe-foto-neizvestnoj-samohodki-na-baze-vitiazia-poiavilos-v-seti.html
To see the pictures
https://andrei-bt.livejournal.com/1288669.html
it looks like a light tank
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Rehearsal for the Victory Parade in Ulan-Ude
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3634850.html
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3634850.html
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It is possible that before us is the Magnolia self-propelled artillery, the development of which was reported in 2017. The machine is designed to arm the formations deployed in the Arctic.
So basically an arctic Vena... the two chassis means if one half or the whole vehicle goes into the water through the ice it can use its powered connection to lift itself out of the water and back on to the ice and then drag the other half back up too. Most single chassis vehicles can't get back out of the water on their own as their weight generally breaks the ice as they try to get out so they act like an icebreaking ship when they try to get out of the water.
The connection between these two vehicles of the Vityaz arctic tractor is hydraulically controlled and can change angles to lift one of the vehicles out of the water, and once one vehicle is out of the water it can then lift the other vehicle up too so the whole vehicle can get out of the water and onto the ice...
It appears to have a very long barrel...
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Russia’s top brass purchases latest remote-controlled mine-laying vehicle
The state contract was signed for three years and stipulates the manufacture and the delivery of the ISDM remote-controlled engineering system
MOSCOW, July 2. /TASS/. Russia’s Defense Ministry has signed a contract with Tecmash hi-tech company on the manufacture and the delivery of the latest ISDM remote-controlled mine-laying engineering system, its combat vehicles and ammunition, the Tecmash press office told TASS on Tuesday.
"At the Army-2019 forum, Tecmash Group of Rostec State Corporation signed a contract with the Defense Ministry on the delivery of combat vehicles and ammunition. The state contract was signed for three years and stipulates the manufacture and the delivery of the ISDM remote-controlled engineering system," the Tecmash said.
Tecmash declined to specify the number of purchased vehicles, the pace of deliveries or the sum of the contract.
"In addition to the state contract, our Group has concluded several contracts with foreign customers. The total sum of the contracts concluded by Tecmash at the Army-2019 arms show amounted to several billion rubles," the press office quoted Tecmash CEO Vladimir Lepin as saying.
The ISDM remote-controlled mine-laying engineering sys
https://tass.com/defense/1066667
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