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    Post  TR1 on Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:44 am

    Most Russian military housing/infrastructure projects tend to look like what most well-funded militaries have had for years.

    This however actually looks contemporary.
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    Post  Mike E on Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:08 am

    TR1 wrote:Most Russian military housing/infrastructure projects tend to look like what most well-funded militaries have had for years.

    This however actually looks contemporary.
    Well, as long as it still works.... Even here in the States our military infrastructure is starting to age, and even if redone, I don't think the advantages are really numerous... Not like it's going to prevent PTSD... 

    Sure, troops may prefer living/basing in nicer areas, but they are troops after all. I'd say that equipment/organization/maintenance etc is more valuable to armed forces than the state of housing. Not so say it should be ignored, just not prioritized or judged.
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    Post  TR1 on Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:44 am

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raYa_3O8_tQ

    UR-07M mine clearing vehicle.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:12 pm

    Apparently future Russian soldiers will have cold and calculating demeanor's...Terminator style! Cool

    The president has shown the combat capabilities of the robot avatar

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    ...Headlines in today's fake news, Prime Minister of Japan, Shinzo Abe, gave a press conference this morning, vowing a proper response towards the future Russian threat in the form of Japan's own military robot army Very Happy

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    Post  TR1 on Wed Jan 21, 2015 7:42 am

    http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/andrei_bt/18425682/319509/319509_original.jpg

    Just a good reference pic.
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    Post  Werewolf on Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:44 am

    Why is the guy in the middle have a cricket bat?
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    Post  Stealthflanker on Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:30 am

    As the title said. Hmm i wonder if anyone can help me to provide the specifications of Russian gun propellant, mainly for tank and artillery gun.

    hmm so far my gun propellant data is for western propellant (like say JA-2 propellant that used by Abrams and Leopard tank) But for some reason i found none for Soviet/Russian tank gun.

    As for what kind of data that i need.. Hmm it would be Impetus, flame temperature and Specific heat ratio of the propellant. Similar as my data below

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    As for what i would use that data for is. I'm making a simplistic Excel spreadsheet to calculate muzzle velocity of a gun (Mainly optimized for Tank gun) Taking account of various stuff like chamber volume, length of the barrel, expansion ratios etc. The sheet allows calculations of :

    -Maximum chamber pressure during firing
    -Muzzle blast pressure
    -Recoil force and impulse of the gun
    -Gun mass (Recoilling, barrel and accessories-crudely though)
    -Determination of whether the gun will be unstable or uncomfortable to fire
    -Determination of gun's maximum safe pressure (So if exceeded.. the gun may burst- Assumption is Autofrettaged barrel)
    -Age of gun barrel, how many rounds it can fire before condemnation necessary (user can set the tolerance by him/herself though)

    The sheet are based from Rheinmettall handbook of weaponry and a journal from "Explosive and pyrotechnic journal"
    The spreadsheet is available here for anyone who might want to play with it :3

    DOWNLOAD LINK

    Anyway no manual can be provided as i'm still developing this.. and refine stuff inside.

    I make that spreadsheet mainly for improving my 3D stuff.. So i can basically "know what to do" when making my own tank. annd to verify at least theoritically if my tank gun can work.

    Thank you very much for any help given.
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    Post  Werewolf on Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:44 am

    To bad after downloading it losts its format with the preset grid to fill in.
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    Post  Stealthflanker on Thu Jan 22, 2015 12:00 pm

    Werewolf wrote:To bad after downloading it losts its format with the preset grid to fill in.

    what ?! Well i'll try uploading it at Google spreadsheet then.

    Google spreadsheet version

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DhyqCmBXGT8AADGxXHARNVCCECTK0nAGtJzWFFgXhtw/edit?usp=sharing
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    Post  George1 on Sat Jan 24, 2015 6:56 pm

    The Southern MD units continue rearming.

    The Southern MD units continue equipping with modern armament, military and special equipment units.

    Combined arms units, located in Chechen Republic, North Ossetia, Volgograd region, Stavropol Territory, Dagestan and Abkhazia, are reequipped with modern T-72 BM, T-90A, BMP-3 and BTR-82A

    Personnel develop their skills of operating the GAZ Tiger special infantry mobility vehicles and Typhoon armored vehicles which the special units were equipped with.

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    Post  Austin on Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:52 am

    Interview: Plant "cupola": developing a new short-range air defense system

    http://ria.ru/interview/20150129/1044846125.html
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:06 pm

    Austin wrote:Interview: Plant "cupola": developing a new short-range air defense system

    http://ria.ru/interview/20150129/1044846125.html

    From that article the MOD is actively looking at modernizing OSA, which imo is excellent news. I really feel like OSA has plenty of steam left, and with so many vehicles in active service, plus a cheap but adequate modernization should do wonders!
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    Post  collegeboy16 on Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:40 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:

    From that article the MOD is actively looking at modernizing OSA, which imo is excellent news. I really feel like OSA has plenty of steam left, and with so many vehicles in active service, plus a cheap but adequate modernization should do wonders!
    a lot of countries could certainly do with an osa system in their AD, and providing them with nice modernization options instead of just outright dumping them would be better for both parties.
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    Post  GarryB on Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:15 am

    There are a large number of countries who would buy such a system... the TOR is rather expensive, though also more capable.... for countries that already have OSA, or for whom a TOR system is just too expensive to buy and operate and upgraded OSA would be ideal.

    Keep in mind that the sensors on TOR are state of the art and very capable systems, but also not cheap, and of course TOR is a tracked vehicle, though there are cheaper wheeled platforms now available, the OSA is cheaper and lighter and has proved in the past able to deal with targets like low flying cruise missiles... which are serious threats to most countries.
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    Post  Stealthflanker on Wed Feb 04, 2015 6:51 am

    GarryB wrote:There are a large number of countries who would buy such a system... the TOR is rather expensive, though also more capable.... for countries that already have OSA, or for whom a TOR system is just too expensive to buy and operate and upgraded OSA would be ideal.

    Keep in mind that the sensors on TOR are state of the art and very capable systems, but also not cheap, and of course TOR is a tracked vehicle, though there are cheaper wheeled platforms now available, the OSA is cheaper and lighter and has proved in the past able to deal with targets like low flying cruise missiles... which are serious threats to most countries.

    I would like to see if Russians offers low cost phased array upgrade to OSA.. With antenna similar as Pero. One critical weaknesses of OSA is the inability to simultaneously engage multiple target.

    Phased array upgrade will alleviate that weaknessess due to agile beam steering. It can provide guidance and tracking without being hampered by antenna gimbal limit.
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    Post  GarryB on Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:30 am

    Another option there would be to fit ARH seekers on SOME of the missiles, but I agree that a four face fixed AESA antenna just optimised for relatively close range scanning would greatly improve performance... perhaps with an Optronic turret to allow operations in intense EW environments.

    Of course I am sure they would rather sell SOSNA-R systems.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:30 pm

    Even with the sanctions...even before the AK-12 started being mass produced...this one's for the naysayers! Wink

    "Kalashnikov" for the first time in seven years left on net profit

    ...It goes to show that the Kalashnikov brand was not a 'lost cause', and they managed to make a net profit even with sanctions! I was just a matter of re-organization (with more competent leaders) and time, and the net profit is set to grow in the next coming years! russia


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    Post  sepheronx on Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:32 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:Even with the sanctions...even before the AK-12 started being mass produced...this one's for the naysayers. Wink

    "Kalashnikov" for the first time in seven years left on net profit

    ...It goes to show that the Kalashnikov brand was not a 'lost cause', and they managed to make a net profit even with sanctions!


    For a while there, there was talk of legalizing guns in Russia, and that would probably make Kalashnikov brand skyrocket. don't think it is a good idea though. But it seems they are now concentrating on things like hunting rifles. Which apparently hunting is still quite popular in Russia, and rightly so (good part of agricultural business, sporting, and just a good way to get away from civilization every now and then).
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    Post  Mike E on Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:37 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:Even with the sanctions...even before the AK-12 started being mass produced...this one's for the naysayers. Wink

    "Kalashnikov" for the first time in seven years left on net profit

    ...It goes to show that the Kalashnikov brand was not a 'lost cause', and they managed to make a net profit even with sanctions!


    For a while there, there was talk of legalizing guns in Russia, and that would probably make Kalashnikov brand skyrocket.  don't think it is a good idea though.  But it seems they are now concentrating on things like hunting rifles.  Which apparently hunting is still quite popular in Russia, and rightly so (good part of agricultural business, sporting, and just a good way to get away from civilization every now and then).
    Why not? Gun control is nothing but an excuse to disarm the population.
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    Post  kvs on Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:51 pm

    Mike E wrote:
    Why not? Gun control is nothing but an excuse to disarm the population.

    This is a nice theory that has no empirical evidence to support it. A collection of rabble with guns is no match
    for an organized force dispatched by the state to suppress them. Waco and the Branch Davidians is a fine example.
    Also, in Iraq everyone and his dog had access to machine guns but that did not give them freedom under Saddam.

    The widespread distribution of weapons in the USA has resulted in the police becoming a collection of trigger
    happy killers who operate on the principle "shoot first, ask questions later". If the population was not armed
    the cops would have zero excuse. So you see the cops in most of the EU behaving in a much more civilized
    and humanitarian way.

    In Canada, the sort of gross excesses that you see in the USA with cop perpetrated killing are vastly smaller
    on a per capita basis. Unfortunately, we have taser happy retards instead, but it is a percolation of both
    American culture and guns that is giving Canada a distinctive set of characteristics from the EU.

    Russia does not need American gun culture. It won its freedom from the Soviet regime without the need for it.
    If guns somehow played a major role in the late 80s and early 90s in Russia, then one could argue they have some
    relevance. Instead, we will have the same killer cop culture infesting Russia. The democratic Russian
    government is already under full assault from outside and inside by actors who want to install a bootlick regime.
    It does not need cops killing civilians on daily basis since that will be used to undermine it and Russia.
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    Post  Mike E on Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:14 pm

    kvs wrote:
    Mike E wrote:
    Why not? Gun control is nothing but an excuse to disarm the population.

    This is a nice theory that has no empirical evidence to support it.   A collection of rabble with guns is no match
    for an organized force dispatched by the state to suppress them.   Waco and the Branch Davidians is a fine example.
    Also, in Iraq everyone and his dog had access to machine guns but that did not give them freedom under Saddam.

    The widespread distribution of weapons in the USA has resulted in the police becoming a collection of trigger
    happy killers who operate on the principle "shoot first, ask questions later".   If the population was not armed
    the cops would have zero excuse.   So you see the cops in most of the EU behaving in a much more civilized
    and humanitarian way.

    In Canada, the sort of gross excesses that you see in the USA with cop perpetrated killing are vastly smaller
    on a per capita basis.   Unfortunately, we have taser happy retards instead, but it is a percolation of both
    American culture and guns that is giving Canada a distinctive set of characteristics from the EU.

    Russia does not need American gun culture.  It won its freedom from the Soviet regime without the need for it.
    If guns somehow played a major role in the late 80s and early 90s in Russia, then one could argue they have some
    relevance.   Instead, we will have the same killer cop culture infesting Russia.   The democratic Russian
    government is already under full assault from outside and inside by actors who want to install a bootlick regime.
    It does not need cops killing civilians on daily basis since that will be used to undermine it and Russia.  
    I think you get what I'm getting at... There is absolutely no need to not have legalized guns in Russia or any other country.
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    Post  TR1 on Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:04 pm

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    Post  GarryB on Wed Feb 11, 2015 1:18 am

    Nice...

    Right now gas turbines have a poor record as prime mover for heavy vehicles, but the future of electric vehicles means gas turbines will make a come back.

    The main problem of having a GT as your main engine is that accelerating and slowing down a lot... which tanks do all the time in operation where they basically sprint from cover to cover or concealment to concealment means very poor fuel economy for a GT which has to keep its revs high to maintain torque to accelerate a heavy vehicle.

    In an electric drive vehicle the GT can be run at optimum revs continuously and produce the most efficient amount of electricity all the time.

    In such a case a GT is smaller and lighter than a diesel, yet offers more growth potential in terms of power. Small light aircraft can use diesel engines but most larger aircraft use gas turbines.

    One of the main issue with GT however is dust and dirt, so air filtering becomes critical.

    Note for auxiliary power units (APUs) to save fuel by allowing the main engine to be shut down but keep the electronics running are generally GTs in tanks and aircraft.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:46 am

    Looks like the AK-12, and the modernized AEK have relatively the same length after stocks have been folded/compressed.

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