Project 22800: "Karakurt" class missile ship

JohninMK wrote:

Isos wrote:

Caspian sea isn't a priority for sure.

Now that missiles are getting longer ranges the Caspian is a pretty good place to keep assets safely out of harms way. Much of what they would be tasked with in the Black Sea they could surely do from there?

The opposite is actually half true. If you need to send reinforcement in the Med you needs to send ships from the black sea. They also cover the middle east with kalibr but not as much as from the Caspian sea because they are not that close to each other.

The naval threat in the caspian doesn't exist. In the black sea it exists and a ship is not only kalibr missiles but also radar and gun.

https://iz.ru/997369/aleksei-ramm-bogdan-stepovoi/buiana-ne-uniat-kaspiiskii-flot-idet-na-baltiku

https://iz.ru/1013506/aleksei-ramm-bogdan-stepovoi/sudba-karakurta-raspredelena-pervaia-partiia-malykh-raketnykh-korablei

I doubt that it was the plan to send all ships to one fleet. The task of the small missile ships is not only to engage enemy ships, but to enhance the precision strike capabilities of a fleet. By putting all ships into one area, lets say the Black Sea, the pacific area or the arctic would gain nothing.

In the end there could be 18 MRK´s per fleet (Buyan-M´s + Karakurts). 30 are already ordered. There are 3 or even 4 yards building them. There are rumours that more Buyan-M´s will be ordered and we already seen a possible modernised, enlarged version of Karakurt. If all yards receive a new order of 6 ships each that would take the toll to 60 units. Not far from the numbers you need to equip the four fleets with 18 ships.

Campaign "Karakurt": new missile ships passed the test by the sea

The Rocket Kids passed an important exam. The newest small missile ships (RTOs) of the 22800 Karakurt project underwent a comprehensive test for the first time. Its results are recognized as successful. During the monthly campaign, the Sovetsk and Mytishchi MRCs proved that they have high autonomy, low visibility, and great fire capabilities. During the maneuvers, the crews conducted training launches of the Caliber and Yakhont Oniks cruise missiles, repelled an air attack and completed a number of other tasks. Experts note that such a long trip was a difficult test for ships with a displacement of 800 tons, but now there is no doubt about the need to continue production of this series

Until today, ships of this class have not spent autonomous navigation for such a long time. And although it was previously stated that the characteristics of RTOs allow them to go on long hikes, this had to be checked in practice. Now, when they passed the exam, there was no doubt that the production of the series should continue, the sources said.

For such small ships as the Karakurt, a month at sea is a difficult test, said Admiral Valentin Selivanov, the former chief of the Main Staff of the Navy.

“For crews, such exercises are a good school,” he said. - The team rallies and is not distracted by extraneous matters. When the ship, as the sailors say, stands near the wall at the base, in the evening officers and sailors go home to their families. At sea, they will not have such an opportunity - there they should be fully focused on combat training.

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PapaDragon wrote:

dino00 wrote:...For such small ships as the Karakurt, a month at sea is a difficult test, said Admiral Valentin Selivanov, the former chief of the Main Staff of the Navy...

Is this supposed to mean that Karakurt's endurance is 30 days?

The Standard Endurance is 15 days, this is the cost for trying to pack so much into a small hull.

30 Days would be an extreme amount for these ships but they are coastal vessels, so it shouldn't be such a big deal either. It just means they cannot go into the open ocean

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

dino00 wrote:...For such small ships as the Karakurt, a month at sea is a difficult test, said Admiral Valentin Selivanov, the former chief of the Main Staff of the Navy...

Is this supposed to mean that Karakurt's endurance is 30 days?

The Standard Endurance is 15 days, this is the cost for trying to pack so much into a small hull.

30 Days would be an extreme amount for these ships but they are coastal vessels, so it shouldn't be such a big deal either. It just means they cannot go into the open ocean

Even Christopher Columbus small wooden ships crossed the Atlantic, with replenishment ship Karakurt can go anywhere.

These are corvettes... why would you want them to have long endurance capacity...

until more new bigger ships r active, these will be relied on if need be.

1st out of 3 Zaliv's Karakuts has been launched. Tsiklon.

Took a few swings of the bottle from whats been said at Balancer this vid might not include all of them.

I've asked this before and not sure I got an answer.

Why is the rear third of the hull painted black on these small Russian ships?

On older lasses this was done because there are the exhausts of the diesel engines.

That's the reason.

On older lasses this was done because there are the exhausts of the diesel engines.

Yes.
This is a new class but the engines are essentially the same as the older Soviet era boats -> just as sooty.

The first was initially painted all grey but sooted up & they reverted to the black paint

JohninMK wrote:I've asked this before and not sure I got an answer.

Why is the rear third of the hull painted black on these small Russian ships?

Black reduce IR signature.

Garry B, maybe you are also trying to say that black paint used may have been of other kind (e.g. epoxy), comparing to standard hull paint. Deck paints are often also epoxy, as thicker in layer and more durable.

can they not exhaust into the water? Better still, put a better injection system into the old diesels?

mnztr wrote:can they not exhaust into the water? Better still, put a better injection system into the old diesels?

It is exhausting into water, they don't have a funnel.