Those insults again... Pathetic.
They are not prototypes. And I can't believe you people keep repeating that BS. But whatever, keep believing that, it clearly makes you guys feel better.
They are buying both. There are probably already more J-20s in active service than Su-35s by the end of 2020. China still has hundreds of J-7s and J-8 they need to replace. (Although they already have more 4th generation fighters than Russia anyway, because their fighter fleet is considerably larger, being a larger country and economy, and all that. TRIGGERED, right?)
Regarding those forums, that is nonsense as well, and irrelevant. China is much more secretive about their military in general. Russia is also more followed in the West, the Russian-Western relations are worse, China is far away from Europe. The there's the language barrier, very few Chinese/China-focused posters on English-language forums. And don't you contradict yourself there a little bit? Previously you complained how China supposedly gets a free pass nowadays, that the Western propaganda only focuses on the Su-57 program. So now that's a good thing? Whatever...
Isos wrote:They got 100 su-30, almost 50 su-35, about 100 su-34 in matters of ten-fifteen years while european countries and china didn't get more than 100 new fighters in all and rafale and eurofighter are older than su-35 and started geting them first.
Add another 100 ka-52 and 100 mi-28, this is huge.
You claim is bullshit here.
Mostly agree. And aren't there already like 70 Su-35s and more than 100 Su-30s, etc.?
But what is that "China didn't get more than 100 new fighters in all" supposed to mean!? You're only including the imported Su-30s or something?
(Of course...) They probably have almost 200 J-10B/Cs with PESAs and AESAs at this point (not to mention another 200 J-10As, which I think are getting upgraded, the airframes are obviously quite new), almost 100 J-16s and you should really include J-11Bs, J-15s, etc. as well.
China's annual fighter production has been slightly higher than Russia's on average throughout the period, plus the fact that it was already at a modestly high level before the Russians (early to mid 2000s, instead of 2010s).
But again, I'm done talking about China, don't worry.
George1 wrote:Next time someone will insult will receive a temporary ban. Last warning for all
Good. I edited my post and removed the term "fanboy", which I think is an insult, don't want to go down to that level. However, that is nothing compared to stuff from Pierre Sprey, miketheterrible and kvs.