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    Post  calripson Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:36 am

    kvs wrote:

    Some liberast anti-Putin crusader "writer" living as an exp-pat in Italy, Svetlana Ulitskaya, has admitted:

    1) the standard of living in Russia today is likely the highest ever in its history

    2) this accounts for the lack of desire of Russians to get rid of Putin

    I guess repeating the inanity that Russians are bydlo has not achieved anything over the last 30 years.
    So it is time to admit some truth.   But a concept posted about by magnumcormagnon in another thread
    applies to this admission.   It is basically just "limited hangout".  Admitting some truth but keeping on with
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    Judging by her face and last name I would assume she is not quite ethnically Russian.

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    Post  Scorpius Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:29 am

    So, during Navalny's stay in the West:
    - Merkel announced her departure.
    - Trump is effectively deposed.

    Should we send Navalny to London and let him live there?

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    Post  kvs Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:00 am

    Yeah, he's a hex. Allowing him back into Russia is a bad idea.

    Just for the mere chance that he will be offed in another NATzO psyop. Offing him on NATzO territory has less propaganda
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    Post  miketheterrible Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:35 am

    Sobol and the like has been arrested for 48hrs due to breaking the law demanding children to partake in illegal demonstrations.

    lol.

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    Post  calripson Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:16 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:Sobol and the like has been arrested for 48hrs due to breaking the law demanding children to partake in illegal demonstrations.

    lol.

    These responses are so weak they remind me of Nicholas II. Here's a better idea: first time penalty for participation in an illegal protest $1,000 fine and 30 days in jail; second offense $100,000 fine, 100 days detention, loss of state job/pension/student enrollment; third offense loss of citizenship and expulsion to a third country of the authorities choosing. Probably could negotiate a nice deal with North Korea who might find the new entrant in violation of North Korea law where they could be hosted in the welcoming North Korean penal system for 5 years.

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    Post  kvs Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:57 pm

    The problem appears to be that Russian officials expect that somehow "reasonable" people will see "reasonable" treatment
    of "malcontents". These officials are either criminally negligent or totally clueless. That is not how public perceptions
    work. If you slap a criminal on the wrist then people assume that there was no serious crime involved. And molly coddling
    seditionist trash is treason itself.

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    Post  par far Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:15 pm

    calripson wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:Sobol and the like has been arrested for 48hrs due to breaking the law demanding children to partake in illegal demonstrations.

    lol.

    These responses are so weak they remind me of Nicholas II. Here's a better idea: first time penalty for participation in an illegal protest $1,000 fine and 30 days in jail; second offense $100,000 fine, 100 days detention, loss of state job/pension/student enrollment; third offense loss of citizenship and expulsion to a third country of the authorities choosing. Probably could negotiate a nice deal with North Korea who might find the new entrant in violation of North Korea law where they could be hosted in the welcoming North Korean penal system for 5 years.

    I think one of the reasons might be that the intelligence agencies get to keep tabs on what these people are doing, who these people are seeing, what foreign contacts these people have. You don't want to skin a sheep, you just cut it's fur, this way you know where the fur is coming from.

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    Post  miketheterrible Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:19 pm

    It has been mentioned on Antimaiden.ru that these people get little punishment but the participants get more severe punishment. Reason being (they believe) is that it is to help the morons see that their leaders (Navalnys, Sobol and the like) are useless and not on their side.

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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:16 am

    miketheterrible wrote:It has been mentioned on Antimaiden.ru that these people get little punishment but the participants get more severe punishment. Reason being (they believe) is that it is to help the morons see that their leaders (Navalnys, Sobol and the like) are useless and not on their side.

    Smart approach

    No need to show leniency to morons

    Those who organize this at least have IQ above room temperature

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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:30 am


    Oh and as always I want to see photos of protests from above

    These "in your face!!!" pictures don't mean shit


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    Post  magnumcromagnon Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:05 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Oh and as always I want to see photos of protests from above

    These "in your face!!!" pictures don't mean shit

    St. Petersburg and Chelyabinsk respectively:
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    Post  kvs Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:12 am

    But that is enough to make headlines such as "protests all through Russia".

    BTW, when I was in the USA around 9/11 there were all sorts of small protests not to start the War on Terror that had zero
    coverage in any western media and I heard about them through eyewitnesses. In Russia every cluster of morons is
    treated like the start of a revolution.

    Of course, when people in the USA storm Congress over brazen electoral fraud that is "insurrection" that requires a National
    Guard lockdown.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Sun Jan 24, 2021 5:04 am

    kvs wrote:But that is enough to make headlines such as "protests all through Russia".

    BTW, when I was in the USA around 9/11 there were all sorts of small protests not to start the War on Terror that had zero
    coverage in any western media and I heard about them through eyewitnesses.    In Russia every cluster of morons is
    treated like the start of a revolution.

    Of course, when people in the USA storm Congress over brazen electoral fraud that is "insurrection" that requires a National
    Guard lockdown.


    The thing that should be most scrutinized is the lack above photo shots of these 'massive' protests. We literally hear countless stories of proliferation of cheap aerial drones and their video footage/photography in Western media, and yet very rarely we see them used in these 'massive' protests. Navalny didn't hesitate to use a drone to film VVP's secret 'palace', but his crew refused to use them during these protest to give the protestors more coverage. I wonder why? Wink

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Sun Jan 24, 2021 5:40 am

    This one was supposedly taken in St.Petersburg today.

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    Post  miketheterrible Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:11 am

    Those shots are useless. Above shits like seen above works.
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    Post  kvs Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:15 am

    Photoshop rubbish. Produce a high res video where the banners are readable.

    The extension down the street is cheesy editing fiction.

    We live in an era of drones and HD cameras that anybody can buy but all I see are dubious "photographs".

    There is a reason why photographs are basically not admissible in court.

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    Post  kvs Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:25 am

    miketheterrible wrote:Those shots are useless. Above shits like seen above works.

    "Shits" indeed.   We will have CIA edited photos showing every citizen of Sankt Petersburg clogging
    every street soon.  

    The minimum requirement is HD camera footage from drones sampling all major stages of the protest.

    And this latest photoshop gem still does not demonstrate any substantial popular support for Navalny
    and his NATzO patrons. Funny how the ballot box is no longer required. All you need is a few
    percent (divide by 10-100 in reality) to engage in illegal street blocking and you have full legitimacy
    for a 5th column stooge.

    These must be the "democratic values" so cherished by the NATzO west.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:37 am

    Karl Haushofer wrote:This one was supposedly taken in St.Petersburg today.

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    It's photo-angling, we see it all the time with instagram whores, and I already posted an above aerial shot of St. Pete protests. BTW Navalny used drones to photograph alleged 'Palaces' of VVP, but his crew refuses to use drones to give his supporters more media coverage to counter state-controlled media......At this point it's too blatantly obvious why they don't use them for protests lol! Razz Embarassed

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    Post  par far Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:18 pm

    There was no reason to hold this clown for 1 month, just questioning him for 3 days and releasing would have made him irrelevant.

    I still think that the reason for detaining him for a month was to get people to streets to see who would come, so authorities and intelligence agencies could keep tabs on those people that came.
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    Post  kvs Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:38 pm

    I depends on Russian law. Navalny broke the terms of his parole for a previous conviction. It looks like 1 month is not for
    any questioning but a punishment for his violation. He could have been sent to prison for longer.

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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:12 am


    Even Tzavo's Chincoms know what's up

    Russia will remain stable, despite Western efforts to encourage protest: Global Times editorial

    https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202101/1213795.shtml

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:40 am

    No, it's a pretext: he had a valid excuse not to be able to check in person while recuperating in Germany, & the authorities knew where he was the whole time.

    https://novayagazeta.ru/articles/2021/01/23/88847-ledovoe-poboische-na-iseti

    https://www.mk.ru/politics/2021/01/24/peskov-dvorec-v-gelendzhike-est-no-ne-u-putina.html question arises, why did he avoid naming its legal owners? perhaps it's becase they r close to Putin who is the oligarch among the oligarchs?
    80M views now.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SECESZWQHY

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1Md8KEl0A8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZMsjKhF9I4

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3qbGwtiA9w

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_KWlZW_Z0k
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    Post  kvs Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:16 am

    Prove it asshole.  Your stupid links don't even start to do so.

    He is facing up to 5 years of jail time for his parole violation. Demands by NATzO maggots do not make Russian law.

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    Post  kvs Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:35 am

    https://fishki.net/anti/3515419-fejk-navalynogo-o-zvonke-otravitelju-fsb-razbivaet-para-nestykovok.html

    Navalny is not only a hoaxer he is a hoax himself.

    Recall the supposed call to an FSB agent. That is the sort of cheesy BS that trolls pollute this board with.

    Блогер, как уже упоминалось выше, позвонил криминалисту ФСБ, использовав простейшее приложение для маскировки номера. В контакт был подставлен номер другого сотрудника ФСБ - Артёма Троянова. Кудрявцев, как и полагается, обратил внимание на то, что звонок из секретариата Совбеза осуществляется по обычной сотовой сети, да ещё и от рядового сотрудника. Но Навальный объяснил, что звонит по общей системе, используя коммутатор, и Кудрявцев успокоился. Хотя должен был тут же положить трубку.

    Дело в том, что ФСБ РФ для рабочих переговоров не только в управлении, но и в любой точке страны использует смартфоны НТЦ «Атлас» с особой системой шифрования. Использование обычной линии для обсуждения работы и уж тем более оперативных мероприятий является дичайшим нарушением. Навальный сообщил, что он звонит через коммутатор, то есть систему закрытой связи. Но в таком случае он должен был звонить не на обычный домашний аппарат Кудрявцева, а на его шифрованный смартфон. Также сотрудник ФСБ должен был запросить идентификацию звонящего. Навальный даже сам предложил перейти на оперативную связь. Однако его собеседник отклонил предложение.

    Navalny claims he called an FSB agent using a regular cell phone. But the FSB uses encrypted cell phones "Atlas". No actual FSB agent would
    chat it up with some caller over a regular cell link dealing with such obviously sensitive matters. The alleged phone call lasted 45 minutes.

    This is where all the NATzO brainwashing comes in. The average credulous sap consuming western MSM excrement thinks that Russian agents
    can't handle a complex task like using encrypted cell phone calls and rejecting any obviously suspicious ones where the caller claims this and that
    but lacks the FSB-issued equipment. You know that secret service agents are actually trained to deal with such situations. But clearly Tsavo Lion
    and the rest of the NATzO retard monkeys think Russians are too dumb to be able to learn. At the same time this Russian idiocracy where people
    can't wipe their own asses is an "existential threat" to the precious locus of human intelligence, the NATzO west.

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