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    Post  medo Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:19 pm

    Article say 67 combat aircraft, Yak-130 is a trainer. I think it was said 14 Su-34, 14-16 Su-30SM, 12 Su-35, 4 mig-29K/KUB, so the rest could be a mix of Su-30M2 and Su-27SM3. Anyone know what is a status of Su-25UBM?
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    Post  mack8 Sat Nov 23, 2013 10:14 pm

    Yes i did forgot (again) about the Su-25UBM. The article seems to suggest though that 51 (!) combat aircraft have already been delivered this year with 16 more to go, but like i said, numbers don't match at all so far, and even more so if the Yak-130s are taken out. dunno 
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    Post  calripson Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:07 am

    Yak 130 is considered a "combat aircraft" and is being included in the 67 figure.
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    Post  TR1 Sun Nov 24, 2013 1:18 am

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/671193.html

    Ok so 25 Ansat chopers delivered to MOD to date. Current contract with MOD is for 32 birds...I don't think the 6-per-year delivery tempo is going to see much of an increase.
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    Post  Viktor Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:18 pm

    Until the end of 2013, Russian Army will receive 40 Mi-8AMTSh and Ka-52

    More than 40 "Terminator" and "Alligator" will go on until 2014 EAST


    10 Mi-35 and Mi-28 delivered to Russian Army

    More than 10 combat helicopters Mi arrived in JUVO



    Also 4 MIG-29K delivered to Russian Navy

    First ship MiGs arrived in the Russian Navy
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    Post  TR1 Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:53 pm

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    Post  medo Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:22 pm

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    It look nice in this colors.
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    Post  Viktor Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:50 am

    Three new Yak-130 delivered to Russian Army:kool:  (this is what I like - delivery on a daily basis Very Happy )

    Three Yak-130 will join the fleet Borisoglebskaya airbase
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    Post  mack8 Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:56 pm

    Right, so there should be 18 Yak-130 now, which if i'm not mistaken was the target figure for this year.
    Considering that 4 MiG-29K have been transferred, these 3 Yaks, and reportedly another lot of Su-34 being on the way, and guessing another lot of Su-30SM should go to Domna soon (judging by the picture of 04 black- thanks for that TR1 btw), perhaps the figure of  last 16 aircraft to be delivered in December was not too far off.
    Any idea and especially insider info when is KnAAPO is going to deliver aircraft this year, apart from T-50-5 they haven't delivered a single one? (the Su-35Ss ferried in January were part of the 2012 order no ?)
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    Post  Viktor Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:08 pm

    Interesting statement from Putin. That would put 400 units of helo/planes in 2 years.

    The President said that in the execution of the state defense order in 2013, troops were delivered 86 aircraft and 100 helicopters. In the next year it is planned to put another 120 aircraft and 90 helicopters, reports the words of the president


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    Post  Austin Fri Nov 29, 2013 4:36 am

    Meeting on developing the Air Force

    Vladimir Putin held a meeting on developing Russia’s Air Force.

    PRESIDENT OF RUSSIA VLADIMIR PUTIN: Good afternoon,

    Today we will continue what we started yesterday, namely a discussion about carrying out state defence procurement orders, this time in reference to aviation, military aviation.

    Professionals are well aware that the role and importance of aviation has been constantly increasing since the First World War. Today aviation – especially in the light of modern technology – accomplishes military, transport and intelligence tasks. And in this regard we have a large programme to develop our military aviation.

    This year 86 new aircraft and over 100 new helicopters were commissioned into our Air Force. Next year we expect a further 120 aircraft and about 90 helicopters, and by 2020 our troops should receive about 1,600 – or more precisely 1,591 – samples of the newest aircraft technology. This is how we plan to equip 70 percent of our fleet with the newest technology.

    I want to emphasise once again that we have drawn up the plans and allocated the funds; now we need to work. We need to comply strictly with the production, testing and acceptance deadlines, and monitor the quality. Our main producer in Russia is the United Aircraft Corporation. Today we shall see how harmoniously financing is being allocated, and how synchronously businesses are operating.

    What are the things I would like to draw attention to? First, it’s strengthening strategic nuclear airborne forces. We need to step up work on the new prospective air complex for long-range aviation, PAK DA. Our work on the Sukhoi PAK FA, the prospective airborne complex of frontline aviation, is well underway. Several aircraft are being tested, fine-tuned and refined. We are actively working on next-generation propulsion systems. Naturally, some issues remain open, but I have virtually no doubt that our plans will be completed. But we must start working on the PAK DA and do that actively.

    Naturally, we have to continue modernising the Tu-160 and Tu-95MS. You know what we have to work on: electronics and other things too. The potential of these systems is far from exhausted. And with regards to long-range aviation, much can be done to modernise and bring this technology to a higher level.

    The second issue is increasing supplies of tactical fighter aircraft, I mean the Su-25SM and Su-34, fifth-generation fighters that I have already mentioned.

    And the third thing is developing and expanding promising unmanned systems. They are used increasingly often throughout the world. We will not be doing it like some other countries do. This is no game, it is not computer games, but rather serious military aircraft designed for both strikes and intelligence. And it is quite clear that they have good prospects. We must not only think about this, but also make all these plans a reality.

    Let’s talk about all these topics.
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    Post  mack8 Fri Nov 29, 2013 2:35 pm

    Here is a breakdown of what is supposed to be delivered this year:
    http://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/news/19370681/v-vojska-postupit-bolshe-samoletov-chem-obeschaet-putin

    Under this plan , said the source , "Vedomosti" , it is planned that the KLA in 2013 put 67 new aircraft : 14 Sukhoi Su-34 ( the last 2 on the contract ends on 32 cars and 14 - on the contract in 2012 to 92 cars) , 12 Su-35S (contracted in 2009 ), 14 Su-30SM (seven units under contracts for 30 cars from March and December 2012 ) , four Su-30M2 (contracted in 2012 ) four deck MiG-29K/KUB 18 trainer aircraft Yak-130 passenger aircraft and one AN-148 .

    In addition, companies will be upgraded KLA 10 MiG- 31BM , decked four Su- 33, two strategic bombers Tu-95MS and two Su-27 Su-27SM3 option , the source told "Vedomosti".

    But this is not all new and upgraded aircraft that the Air Force plans to deliver . At least two An-140 transport supply is not included in the KLA Samara " Aviacor " LET Czech plant will supply some light transport aircraft L- 410 , and repair aircraft factory in Kubinka put several modernized Su-25 , sources say.

    According to a source in the Defense Ministry plans KLA in general feasible , except for deliveries of Su-35S , who can not complete the test.
    Quick question (i'm supposed to work right now!), any idea how many Su-25SM have been delivered or will be this year, and any idea in regards to the supposed hold-up of Su-35S ? Thanks!

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    Post  Viktor Fri Nov 29, 2013 3:05 pm

    3.5 TIMES increased production in 2013 thumbsup 


    "Tactical Missiles" in 2013 increased production
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    Post  mack8 Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:19 pm

    News report about Su-30SM arrival!
    http://chita.rfn.ru/video.html?id=8126131&type=r
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    Post  calripson Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:37 am

    As recently as 2009, Russia produced only 7 fixed wing aircraft for its military. This year's figure will be 57...next year more. After years of decay both in capital stock, labor force, and most importantly human intellectual capital, to be able to restore competitivie military high tech prodcution is nothing short of amazing and quite to the chagrin of the "west" which was more than happy to see Russia lose its ability to produce military/high tech goods. (As were most of Russia's pro-western "intellectuals". ) I know, I worked with them in Moscow in the 1990s and one, a literal former rocket scientist, exclaimed how Russia would lose its ability to produce nuclear weapons and that, in his opinion, would be great. (He was the caricature of a Russian liberal - Jewish, fluent in english, and having studied post graduate in the States, made a fortune speculating in vouchers and GKO's). He also hated Putin with a passion. One most give credit to Putin for orchestrating the recovery in Russian miitary production and high tech because certainly under the drunk Boris Yeltsin it was going the way of the dinosaur.
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    Post  TR1 Sat Nov 30, 2013 9:36 am

    I don't see how it is Putin's work at all.

    I can think of hundreds of people who would have the same if not better results.
    The country recovered from 90s + oil prices = more money. Not Putin's economic or military genius.
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    Post  Viktor Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:41 am

    I think the information that passed under the radar is the number of simulators delivered to Russian militarty 

    In WEST Flight simulators received Mi-28N, Ka-52 and Mi-8 MTV-5
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    Post  calripson Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:06 pm

    Russia had plenty of oil and gas revenue in the 1990s also, the difference is 100% of it was stolen and shipped to offshore bank accounts. I worked in finance in Moscow and I dealt with oligarchs and I saw exactly how it was done. Under Putin, only some of the money gets stolen - not 100% ! That was the essence of the whole Khodorkovsky conflict: he was going to bankroll the Duma to keep oil profit taxes low, privatize Transneft, and sell Yukos to Exxon. You forget what the political situation in Russia was when Putin came into office. Hell, Boris Berezovsky (an agent of British and probably Israeli intelligence) was head of the security council ! Putin is no angel, and he is not perfect, but he could never have gotten into power if he were. The corruption in Russia under Putin was there under Yeltsin and all through Russian history. No one, not even Stalin, managed to stamp that out.
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    Post  xeno Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:36 pm

    calripson wrote:Russia had plenty of oil and gas revenue in the 1990s also, the difference is 100% of it was stolen and shipped to offshore bank accounts. I worked in finance in Moscow and I dealt with oligarchs and I saw exactly how it was done. Under Putin, only some of the money gets stolen - not 100% ! That was the essence of the whole Khodorkovsky conflict: he was going to bankroll the Duma to keep oil profit taxes low, privatize Transneft, and sell Yukos to Exxon. You forget what the political situation in Russia was when Putin came into office. Hell, Boris Berezovsky (an agent of British and probably Israeli intelligence) was head of the security council ! Putin is no angel, and he is not perfect, but he could never have gotten into power if he were. The corruption in Russia under Putin was there under Yeltsin and all through Russian history. No one, not even Stalin, managed to stamp that out.
    Well said, very very well...
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    Post  TR1 Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:10 pm

    calripson wrote:Russia had plenty of oil and gas revenue in the 1990s also, the difference is 100% of it was stolen and shipped to offshore bank accounts. I worked in finance in Moscow and I dealt with oligarchs and I saw exactly how it was done. Under Putin, only some of the money gets stolen - not 100% ! That was the essence of the whole Khodorkovsky conflict: he was going to bankroll the Duma to keep oil profit taxes low, privatize Transneft, and sell Yukos to Exxon. You forget what the political situation in Russia was when Putin came into office. Hell, Boris Berezovsky (an agent of British and probably Israeli intelligence) was head of the security council ! Putin is no angel, and he is not perfect, but he could never have gotten into power if he were. The corruption in Russia under Putin was there under Yeltsin and all through Russian history. No one, not even Stalin, managed to stamp that out.
    Putin didn't start the thieving, no doubt about that.

    But he continued it in full swing, hence why I won't thank him for anything, or give him undue credit.
    I don't like the whole "He is better than Yelstin!" thing, because it implies Russia can't do any better. Historically, well, we havn't haha. But thats no reason to settle for Tsar Putin today.
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    Post  GarryB Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:32 am

    because it implies Russia can't do any better.
    Right now it can't...

    But if it makes you feel any better the US can't do any better than Obama at the moment.
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    Post  Cyberspec Sun Dec 01, 2013 12:31 pm

    Corruption won't be stamped out (anywhere not just Russia) because it's human nature. It can be managed to a greater or lesser degree ....Russia's case is just trumpeted loudly and out of proportion in the media...but that's nothing new
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    Post  TR1 Sun Dec 01, 2013 1:56 pm

    http://russianplanes.net/images/to126000/125689.jpg

    Pretty cool pic, open and empty bomb bay of teh Bear.
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    Post  a89 Mon Dec 02, 2013 5:21 pm

    Putin is no angel, and he is not perfect, but he could never have gotten into power if he were. The corruption in Russia under Putin was there under Yeltsin and all through Russian history. No one, not even Stalin, managed to stamp that out.
    I would say corruption in the Soviet times was more limited due to economic system. You could not take millions abroad for example.
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    Post  sepheronx Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:20 am

    Many countries have a system for banking that before millions are moved, it has to undergo approval and investigation. Russia does not have that. So its easier to steal money.

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