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[Official] Armata Discussion thread #3
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+1 Nice pic.
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Re: [Official] Armata Discussion thread #3
Walther von Oldenburg Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:44 pm
Am I the only person whom Armata's turret reminds of T-34? 
It certainly does not look like the turret of T-90 or whatever III generation tank.
It certainly does not look like the turret of T-90 or whatever III generation tank.
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Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Am I the only person whom Armata's turret reminds of T-34?
No, you are not. It looks exactly like T-34.
Classics are classics for a reason.
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Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Am I the only person whom Armata's turret reminds of T-34?
If you squint and kinda turns your head...I still don't think it look much like a T-34 turret
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Maybe by its shape alone no. But when looking at the turret when attached to the hull the T-14 looks a lot like its great-great-grandfather the T-34. Tank turrets have been getting bigger and bigger before the T-14 in order to accommodate 66%-75% of the crew and all the sensors and other tech in there. Look at the turrets on the T-90, M1, Leopard 2, etc. they are massive, especially in comparison to the the hull. Because of the unmanned turret in the T-14, it eliminates the crew up in the turret allowing it to be smaller similar to how the T-34 turret looks on its hull.Cucumber Khan wrote:Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Am I the only person whom Armata's turret reminds of T-34?
If you squint and kinda turns your head...I still don't think it look much like a T-34 turret
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Ivan the Colorado wrote:Maybe by its shape alone no. But when looking at the turret when attached to the hull the T-14 looks a lot like its great-great-grandfather the T-34. Tank turrets have been getting bigger and bigger before the T-14 in order to accommodate 66%-75% of the crew and all the sensors and other tech in there. Look at the turrets on the T-90, M1, Leopard 2, etc. they are massive, especially in comparison to the the hull. Because of the unmanned turret in the T-14, it eliminates the crew up in the turret allowing it to be smaller similar to how the T-34 turret looks on its hull.Cucumber Khan wrote:Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Am I the only person whom Armata's turret reminds of T-34?
If you squint and kinda turns your head...I still don't think it look much like a T-34 turret
The turret itself of the T-90MS is tiny, it appears bigger because of the ammunition bustle, while the turrets of western tanks without ammunition bustle are still big, due more internal space and one man more who is standing straight up with quite lot of space around him.
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That is fair, a vanilla T-72 turret isn't that large either. Still, when comparing the T-14 with any other MBT in the last 40 years, it has a substantially smaller turret than any of them.Werewolf wrote:Ivan the Colorado wrote:Maybe by its shape alone no. But when looking at the turret when attached to the hull the T-14 looks a lot like its great-great-grandfather the T-34. Tank turrets have been getting bigger and bigger before the T-14 in order to accommodate 66%-75% of the crew and all the sensors and other tech in there. Look at the turrets on the T-90, M1, Leopard 2, etc. they are massive, especially in comparison to the the hull. Because of the unmanned turret in the T-14, it eliminates the crew up in the turret allowing it to be smaller similar to how the T-34 turret looks on its hull.Cucumber Khan wrote:Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Am I the only person whom Armata's turret reminds of T-34?
If you squint and kinda turns your head...I still don't think it look much like a T-34 turret
The turret itself of the T-90MS is tiny, it appears bigger because of the ammunition bustle, while the turrets of western tanks without ammunition bustle are still big, due more internal space and one man more who is standing straight up with quite lot of space around him.
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Yes.Ivan the Colorado wrote:That is fair, a vanilla T-72 turret isn't that large either. Still, when comparing the T-14 with any other MBT in the last 40 years, it has a substantially smaller turret than any of them.Werewolf wrote:Ivan the Colorado wrote:Maybe by its shape alone no. But when looking at the turret when attached to the hull the T-14 looks a lot like its great-great-grandfather the T-34. Tank turrets have been getting bigger and bigger before the T-14 in order to accommodate 66%-75% of the crew and all the sensors and other tech in there. Look at the turrets on the T-90, M1, Leopard 2, etc. they are massive, especially in comparison to the the hull. Because of the unmanned turret in the T-14, it eliminates the crew up in the turret allowing it to be smaller similar to how the T-34 turret looks on its hull.Cucumber Khan wrote:Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Am I the only person whom Armata's turret reminds of T-34?
If you squint and kinda turns your head...I still don't think it look much like a T-34 turret
The turret itself of the T-90MS is tiny, it appears bigger because of the ammunition bustle, while the turrets of western tanks without ammunition bustle are still big, due more internal space and one man more who is standing straight up with quite lot of space around him.
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3D printing in Armata production 
http://lenta.ru/news/2015/08/06/3dprinter/ (in Russian)
https://latestnewsresource.com/en/news/proizvoditel-armaty-zapustil-v-rabotu-3d-printer (in English)
http://lenta.ru/news/2015/08/06/3dprinter/ (in Russian)
https://latestnewsresource.com/en/news/proizvoditel-armaty-zapustil-v-rabotu-3d-printer (in English)
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The T-90B3 & T-14 models shown at Army-2015 were both 3D printed. Nothing big but interesting nonetheless.
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Lets hope UVZ and KurganMash will soon(due o massive russian experience in complex metalurgy) be massively equipped with such printers to serially produce real tank parts.Mike E wrote:The T-90B3 & T-14 models shown at Army-2015 were both 3D printed. Nothing big but interesting nonetheless.
Also by T90B3 you mean T-72B3 right?
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Indeed.KomissarBojanchev wrote:Lets hope UVZ and KurganMash will soon(due o massive russian experience in complex metalurgy) be massively equipped with such printers to serially produce real tank parts.Mike E wrote:The T-90B3 & T-14 models shown at Army-2015 were both 3D printed. Nothing big but interesting nonetheless.
Also by T90B3 you mean T-72B3 right?
T-90B3 = T-90 Break-3 = T-90A upgraded to the AM specification. http://vestnik-rm.ru/news-4-12551.htm
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Mike E wrote:Indeed.KomissarBojanchev wrote:Lets hope UVZ and KurganMash will soon(due o massive russian experience in complex metalurgy) be massively equipped with such printers to serially produce real tank parts.Mike E wrote:The T-90B3 & T-14 models shown at Army-2015 were both 3D printed. Nothing big but interesting nonetheless.
Also by T90B3 you mean T-72B3 right?
T-90B3 = T-90 Break-3 = T-90A upgraded to the AM specification. http://vestnik-rm.ru/news-4-12551.htm
I searched all over if any T-90AMs were bought on Russian forums I just found stuff saying they will be bought, Is there any confirmation?
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No new vehicles will be bought, however, there is speculation all T-90A's will be upgraded to this B3 spec.
It hasn't officially been confirmed, but the display at Army-2015 really, really points to it.
It hasn't officially been confirmed, but the display at Army-2015 really, really points to it.
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Production Testing of Russia's Armata Tank to End in 2016
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George1 wrote:Production Testing of Russia's Armata Tank to End in 2016
Quite unclear to me: with production testing they means what in air force are called acceptance trials? To be followed by the state trials?
Or are talking about industrialization phase?
In first case it means that actual T-14 are just prototypes and state trials are still not begun? Seem me improbable given the numbers of items showed at the parade.
In the second one the text made not sense at all.
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My guess is that "production testing" is a form of checking to see the viability of actually producing the vehicle.
Armata's were seen heading for trials after Victory Day, and I have heard they will be finished sometime next year.
Armata's were seen heading for trials after Victory Day, and I have heard they will be finished sometime next year.
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''Russia’s Armata Tank to Lend Its Name to Team-Based Armored Warfare Game ''
''In Russia, a well-known team-based tank game will no longer be called Armored Warfare. Instead, it will be branded as Armored Warfare: Project Armata!''
http://sputniknews.com/military/20150820/1025982477/armata-tank-armored-warfare-game.html
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Open top hatch methinks...
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Interesting, it's the service hatch apparently.
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The RWS weapon is also taken off.
Seems like the maintenance/reload, after trials perhaps.
Seems like the maintenance/reload, after trials perhaps.
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PapaDragon wrote:
Open top hatch methinks...
How is that possible? I thought an unmanned turret was incompatible with a top hatch.
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Cyrus the great wrote:PapaDragon wrote:
Open top hatch methinks...
How is that possible? I thought an unmanned turret was incompatible with a top hatch.
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I would imagine it is to be able to gain access to the interior of the turret. To replace stuff, maybe add ammunition, or something.
The hatch doesn't mean that someone could fit in it or supposed to go inside (well, maybe for maintenance sake, possibly).
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^ What Sepheronx said. It is a service hatch, and seemingly this was after trailing.
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sepheronx wrote:Cyrus the great wrote:PapaDragon wrote:
Open top hatch methinks...
How is that possible? I thought an unmanned turret was incompatible with a top hatch.
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I would imagine it is to be able to gain access to the interior of the turret. To replace stuff, maybe add ammunition, or something.
The hatch doesn't mean that someone could fit in it or supposed to go inside (well, maybe for maintenance sake, possibly).
That makes sense. Thank you for explaining that to me.
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