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    [Official] Armata Discussion thread #3

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    Post  magnumcromagnon 17/02/16, 10:10 am

    This is directed towards Mike E, a correction on the number of gears forward and backward. So one of you older posts stated that Armata platform has 4 gears forward and backward, I read somewhere some 5-6 months back that it was actually 8 gears forward and backward. Though I sat on the response, because I wasn't sure if the article was a victim of a bad machine translation, so I gave your word the benefit of the doubt, but yes indeed it's been confirmed that Armata has both 8 gears forward and 8 gears backward. Just a minor correction.
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    Post  Mike E 17/02/16, 10:37 am

    It has always been 8 in both directions - not sure why I would have mixed that up.

    Thanks
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    Post  magnumcromagnon 17/02/16, 11:11 am

    Mike E wrote:It has always been 8 in both directions - not sure why I would have mixed that up.

    Thanks

    BTW on Gurkhan's website, there's been rumors that Rhinemetal is looking at a 130mm smooth-bore cannon. Do you think there's any substance to the claim?

    If it's true, then that's quite strange and perplexing, considering that there's apparently already a 140mm cannon already designed ready for service.
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    Post  Mike E 17/02/16, 11:17 am

    The image GurKhan showed originated from an official Rheinmettal presentation - so it has basically been confirmed.

    A 130 mm makes a little sense - in that the rounds can be smaller and lighter as well. If they stick with unitary rounds, it makes sense, if not, it doesn't really do much.

    I'm certain it will be ETC-based as well,countries have had the technology for a while now. I think we will see T-14 adopt an ETC very soon as well. In fact, possibly in place of the 152 mm.
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    Post  Guest 17/02/16, 11:33 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    Mike E wrote:It has always been 8 in both directions - not sure why I would have mixed that up.

    Thanks

    BTW on Gurkhan's website, there's been rumors that Rhinemetal is looking at a 130mm smooth-bore cannon. Do you think there's any substance to the claim?

    If it's true, then that's quite strange and perplexing, considering that there's apparently already a 140mm cannon already designed ready for service.

    Seems actually that NPzK-140 is dead, as they still want to keep 4 crew members and 140mm ammunition is separate loading ammunition, which means it requires autoloader. So i guess than that is why they want to pursue 130mm guns now, as they are most likely one piece.
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    Post  ult 19/02/16, 12:29 am

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    Post  Zivo 19/02/16, 03:09 am

    ult wrote:

    What's with the exhaust flame on startup?
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    Post  PapaDragon 19/02/16, 03:19 am

    Zivo wrote:...................

    What's with the exhaust flame on startup?

    Super stronkk engine!!! Cool
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    Post  Zivo 19/02/16, 05:30 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Zivo wrote:...................

    What's with the exhaust flame on startup?

    Super stronkk engine!!! Cool

    I didn't notice the first time, it's actually the APU's exhaust. That makes more sense, short pipe, plus cold start.
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    Post  Cyrus the great 26/02/16, 11:19 am

    I saw the live firing video of the Armata and it seemed to have had a lot of recoil, and I just don't know why that it is.


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    Post  Mike E 26/02/16, 11:22 am

    Some people say barrel or stabilizer trouble with this particular unit, stabilizer was off, etc.

    It is quite clear that the stabilizer was off in both firing videos, the barrel is not 'cushioned' at all.
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    Post  Cyrus the great 26/02/16, 12:30 pm

    Mike E wrote:Some people say barrel or stabilizer trouble with this particular unit, stabilizer was off, etc.

    It is quite clear that the stabilizer was off in both firing videos, the barrel is not 'cushioned' at all.

    They definitely should have fixed any problems with the stabilizer or the barrel before releasing the video.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon 26/02/16, 10:26 pm

    Cyrus the great wrote:
    Mike E wrote:Some people say barrel or stabilizer trouble with this particular unit, stabilizer was off, etc.

    It is quite clear that the stabilizer was off in both firing videos, the barrel is not 'cushioned' at all.

    They definitely should have fixed any problems with the stabilizer or the barrel before releasing the video.

    You do know that it's in prototype stage, and not in serial production?
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    Post  GarryB 27/02/16, 10:05 am

    It might be that they were test firing the barrel without the stabiliser engaged to determine that if can fire without the stabiliser turned on.

    Sort of a worst case accuracy test...
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    Post  George1 28/02/16, 05:53 am

    RuMOD to get first test batch of T-14 Armata tanks and T-15 armored vehicles (~20) in 2016-17

    https://twitter.com/KURYERSAT/status/703661237905854464
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    Post  franco 29/02/16, 03:05 am

    https://www.rt.com/news/333871-armata-tanks-trial-army/

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