Better photo of the model tank (Armata??) shown to D. Rogozin at the Motovilika plant in Perm a few days ago.
A tank sized vehicle would be part of the Armata family... but this could be the Fire support vehicle that could be used in situations where a tank is not suitable, like convoy protection or tank protection in urban areas.
there are at least 2 crewmembers sitting in the hull. The third member may be also in the hull or under the turret or in the turret.
The Turret will contain ammo and will not have any crew in it.
Likely the three crew are seated beneath the turret overhang to protect them from top attack weapons.
The Flat Area behind the Turret will likely have ammo with autoloader or just space for ammo.
The third crew is likely to be at the back of turret or inside the turret , I suspect they will completely isolate the crew turret.
There is no point in putting crew in the turret. I would expect the flat area behind the turret contains the autoloading mechanism and space for a few rounds of different types ready to be loaded rapidly into the gun. The majority of rounds will be stored inside the turret below the turret ring safe from direct fire threats.
I would also expect space below the turret ring will contain 30mm cannon shells and 40mm grenades for the 30mm gatling and long barrel 40mm grenade launcher.
I would think a twin barrel 30mm cannon would have been more use than a 6 barrel gatling.
ofcourse there would be fight for premium space there so TI/Radar would get the best view followed by APS
APS will not involve the guns. It will likely consist of munitions that can be launched based on signals from the TI/Radar and other sensors.
Hmmm, the panel does say Armata, wtf? Gur Khan is a reliable source on this, wonder what he has to say.
Technically armata is a program name for a family of vehicles. This could be the armata BMPT, or it could be from a rival company to UVZ and is a tank armata vehicle.
120mm rifled gun? Is this like Vena on an armata chassis?
This could be a break through... the 100mm gun of the BMP-3 is a rifled weapon with a small charge and a large payload but its max range is 7km.
The 120mm mortar/gun of the Vena has a max range of something like 13km and can fire both shells and mortar bombs and use bagged propellent charges so for close targets it can use one propellent bag so it doesn't go high up into the air and remain in the air for a long time before coming down on target... much like a mortar or howitzer. This makes the weapon much more effective and much more accurate and versatile.
Developing a new 120mm rifled gun/mortar would be ideal for a BMPT like vehicle as the high elevation and raw HE power means even tough hillside bunkers can be taken out with cheap ammo.
It would be able to use 120mm mortar shells and 120mm shells from NONA etc, and also 120mm laser guided missiles and it will probably have its own standard HE round for general targets that will be much more compact than high velocity rounds of smaller calibre.
Such a weapon could also be used on a 25 ton vehicle like Boomerang and Kurganets as it is a low recoil medium pressure type weapon...
I see this as a BMPT replacement, one that is rather closely unified to Armata MBT.
Yes... I totally agree.
Alexey Khlopotov thinks our mystery auxiliary weapon is a remote controlled 6 barreled machine gun. Looks like it is in the higher res photos.
It does, but I hope they see sense and change it for a GSh-30K as fitted to the Hind. A shorter barrel model is fitted to the Su-25. The GSh-30K has longer barrels for a higher muzzle velocity and it has a muzzle brake, and also fires at a slightly lower rate than the GSh-30 fitted to the Su-25.
The extra length and weight of the GSh-30K is not a problem on a ground vehicle, and it is much lighter. than the 6 barrel GSh-6-30.
Of course it could be a GSh-23-6.
The GSh-30 fires at 3,000 rpm and the gun weighs 105kgs. It is not a gatling so there is no wind up period to get to full rate of fire and is apparently very accurate. It has a muzzle velocity with standard ammo of 870m/s. It is used by the Su-25 and uses standard 30 x 165mm ammo.
The GSh-30K is used on the Mi-24P in a fixed position on the side of the helo and has longer barrels and a muzzle flash hider. It weighs 126kgs and is not a gatling so there is no wind up period to get to full rate of fire and is also apparently pretty accurate. The GSh-30K can fire at two rates, 2,000-2,600rpm in high rate, and 300-400rpm in low rate... the latter allowing single shots or short bursts. The muzzle velocity is 940m/s using standard 30 x 165mm ammo.
As you can see the GSh-30K is the heaviest, but the choice of rate of fire means it will be useful against both ground and air targets.
As a comparison the GSh-6-30 fires at 6,000rpm, and is a gas powered gatling so there is no electric motor and it winds up very rapidly. It would take a dozen or more dud rounds in a row to effect performance and single dud would be cycled by momentum even if they don't fire (such reliability is important in remote weapons as in aircraft or in armata as a crewman wont be able to reach back and recock and continue firing). The Russians do have a set of pyrotechnic charges that burns through the side of a 30mm shell case to ignite the powder charge directly to fire rounds with dud primers.
At 149kgs it is the heaviest gun option and the enormous rate of fire would be wasted on most ground targets... having said that a single gun would put out shells faster than Shilka or Tunguska and would be devastating.
The GSh-6-30 was carried by the Mig-27 and the Su-24.
The other option could be the GSh-6-23M, which fires at up to 10,000 rpm with a muzzle velocity of 715m/s with a 23 x 114mm cartridge... the weapon weighs an amazing 73kgs and would be devastating, though the rate of fire would be high the compact ammo could be carried in larger volumes than the much larger and heavier 30mm rounds.
Of course it could be a new 12.7 or 14.5mm calibre weapon too...