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    Post  Vann7 on Sun Sep 20, 2015 1:30 am

    jhelb wrote:
    Viktor wrote:Krasuha-4

    Viktor, assuming there is a dogfight over Moscow between a Russian Su 35 and a NATO F 35, is it still possible for Russian AirForce/Army to use ground based  EW systems against the F 35 knowing fully well that in the process, they may affect the Su 35s as well? Thank You.

    Not viktor... but..

    ABout your question..

    RUssia maybe have developed also electronics that are resistant to this counter electronics.
    or maybe they just can focus their energy on a single small mobile target.. like Dish antennas do.. that they need to point directly to a direction to receive a signal.  But flying over moscow that will never happen.. Any F-35 will be stop in cold even before it enter Russia airspace.
    They are not invisible planes in any way.. they still can be detected with any old radar.. what stealth does is reduce the distance they are detected.. nothing more or less.  But with modern radars of low band ,and Infra red optics. it is possible to detect planes stealth planes from far distances.. doppler radars for example can detect birds or clouds in air. So you cannot completely hide from radars..

    About Russia counter electronics hardware this looks like serious stuff...
    IF it is half as good as they claim ,it will be a real game changer.. only comparable
    to the invention of the Radar in world war 2 ,that allowed allies to easily detect German
    Uboats beyond visual distance ,so no longer they could hide.. and as game changer as the use of planes in combat.  Because if Russia ECW works half as good as they claim?

    Then it will be impossible for NATO to use any precision weapon against Russia Shocked
    but is even more.. Because apparently they is not only jamming ..but also can damage
    the equipment and shut it down.

    Because this sounds too good to be true..  lol1
    Lets downscale this a little and say that it works as advertised but only against electronic hardware developed in the 70s ,80s and interrupt the communications to any military hardware developed in the 90s. but that no longer works in any way with more modern technology from late 90s to 2015.

    If Russian ECW do half as good as they claim.. it will means that pretty much NATO will have non weapons to fight Russia ,because any missile or rocket..with sensors and radio guidance or TV on its warhead will not work.. Shocked

    So Javelins missiles will not work.. will be shutdown ,burned its electronics or at least cut its radio control guidance.. same with Israeli SPike missiles. Same with any American anti tank weapon that have radio guidance. same with any GPS cruise missile or even ballistic missile.
    You read about about Baltic States and other NATO not using the latest communication encryption from US.. but it will not matter..since Russia dont need to intercept ,all they will do is
    create a real strong interference that will block radio communications through air.  

    All this means ,is that if RUssia counter electronics are half as good as they say.. NATO will have
    to fight the old ways of world war 1.. war of trenches ,using just classical non guided bomb artillery.. and people on foot.. because tanks will neither work..  Laughing

    NATO Cruise missiles will fail..once enter in the zone of electronic attack. will either miss its guidance and land miles away of its target or even turn off its engine and just fall from sky.
    Tomahakws and harpoons useless. to. Manpads missiles trying to hit a plane or helicopter armed with such electronic warfare will turn off before do impact and not explode.
    and if such radioelectronic weapons deployed inside many satellites in space it could turn off Trident missiles too or any ICBM will shutdown its power unit and engines.  Shocked

    This is what i call real wishful thinking .. or if true.. the most revolutionary weapon ever invented in modern times ,since the plane or Radar was invented. Oh an nuclear weapons missiles also depends on electronics on its warhead or engine to detonate..

    IF Russia can shutdown satellites too with radio electronic attacks ,as they claim now working..that will truly leave blind NATO forces.. and with no way to fight... other than visual distance trench war ,using world war 2 weapons.. at least for them..

    But for sure can be countered.. with modern weapons.. other wise Russia will not be able
    to use the technology because could damage their own electronics. but even in this way.. is serious stuff.  US navy and US airforce but also US Army.. is largely made its inventory of
    weapons from the 80s to the 90s.. they have not pushed a lot to modernize their missiles.
    Only Europeans have done that. Interesting stuff...

    Imagine for example ,if the counter electronic equipment Russia promoting only worked well against hardware designed in the 70s and 80s.. this still will be huge.. For example it could allow Russia to have a field day , with planes and tanks in Syria  ,watching Rebels manpads failing one after another.. and rebel anti tank missiles failing too. they will simply not explode and not even reach the target.. the engine will shut down of any portable missiles.This are the major weapons  of extremist groups.. Only light arms will work..grenades too..and classic old artillery too.  But anything with modern electronics or sensors or radio guidance or lazer guidance missile or communication equipment will not work.  Control Remote activated Road side bombs neither will work.. neither tanks will move..basically a real revolution of warfare..that completely change the way modern wars are fought.

    for people skeptic about electromagnetic weapons or counter electronics ..

    THis is a homemade EMP gun..
    Notice how no physical contact is need to disable electronic equipment.



    US army also have counter electronics too , this is not new..but it looks like Russia
    have taken it to a whole new level.. way beyond what US armed forces have done.
    IMHO it will be a real mistake for Russia to sell this very advanced weapons to anyone in the west.. and even to their allies.. it should be very easy for US to bribe any nation with lots of money to reverse engineer the technology... at best only CHINA and India..but no others.,,
    because the risk is very high of the technology falling in wrong hands.
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    Post  Vann7 on Sun Sep 20, 2015 2:20 am


    and to make things more harder to believe..ridiculous over the top.. they also claim ,
    their electronic warfare can be integrated in planes and shut down the air defenses of the enemies.. This is mind blowing.. imagine that? Shocked

    they use as example the shutdown of US aegis system in the donald cook.. lol1
    Man this looks insanely too good to be true.. but will be really amazing if true.
    Just imagine this? If Russia counter electronics can disable Aegis ,that is US best defense
    system.. then pretty much Russia should have no problems to invade United States with
    its Airforce and be immune to any system of defense or missile.. ALbeit Regular cannon fire
    and anti air artillery should work..

    Electromagnetic weapon of Russia




    Looks like Alien technology to me.. don't know what to think really.. my guess is BS..
    or simply a major exageration. Smile
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    Post  Stealthflanker on Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:55 am

    There was an interesting concept surfaced in 1970's RAND Study. called as "Stellar radar" It's basically a Bi-static radar but using stars and sun as its non-cooperative emitters.

    Nonetheless the theoritical groundwork of it (The paper also include mathematical equation for predicting performance) Showed that it might not be promising. Nonetheless it is one hell of interesting concept.
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    Post  jhelb on Sun Sep 20, 2015 11:47 am

    Stealthflanker wrote:There was an interesting concept surfaced in 1970's RAND Study. called as "Stellar radar" It's basically a Bi-static radar but using stars and sun as its non-cooperative emitters.

    Nonetheless the theoritical groundwork of it (The paper also include mathematical equation for predicting performance) Showed that it might not be promising. Nonetheless it is one hell of interesting concept.

    I was thinking something like Russia using ground based EW systems to target hostile F-22, F 35 etc over Russian airspace if they are involved in a dogfight with Russian Su 30 or Su 35s.

    But then I suspect that ground based EW systems will also affect the Su 30s and Su 35s adversely.
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    Post  max steel on Fri Sep 25, 2015 8:41 pm

    Austin wrote:Interesting pod cast from Bill Sweetman who returned from MAKS and describes some stuff on jamming system

    http://aviationweek.com/defense/podcast-russia-counters-us-advantages

    Transcript is out here http://aviationweek.com/defense/russians-showcase-new-munitions


    Nice find . Read the comments , typical American buffoonery . tongue
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    Post  max steel on Sun Sep 27, 2015 12:18 am

    Share of top-notch radioelectronic warfare tools may reach 90% in Russian Army by 2020

    The share of top-notch radioelectronic warfare tools in the Russian Armed Forces may reach 90% by 2020, Deputy Defense Minister Yuri Borisov said on Thursday as he took the floor at the 14th conference titled 'Russian Radioelectronics: New Challenges and Prospects'.

    "In line with the priority tasks that were put forward by the Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces (these duties are vested in the Russian President under the Constitution TASS), the percentage of up-to-date technologies should be no less than 70%, and in we take the tools or radioelectronic warfare, it should be definitely above 70% or, to be more precise, closer to 80% to 90%," he said.

    "We're increasing the purchases of radioelectronic warfare instruments from one year to another," Borisov said. "The current volume (of purchases) meets the requirements of the Armed Forces."

    "A number of R&D projects have been completed successfully in the framework of the state program for armaments," he said. "We have at our disposal the instruments for ground-based electronic warfare, and the equipment for air-based warfare exist, too.""Also, we have the instruments installable on ships," Borisov said. "They match world standards."
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    Post  GJ Flanker on Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:48 am

    Putin called it, a long time ago, asymmetric countermeasures!

    Vann7 wrote:
    and to make things more harder to believe..ridiculous over the top.. they also claim ,
    their electronic warfare can be integrated in planes and shut down the air defenses of the enemies.. This is mind blowing.. imagine that?  Shocked

    they use as example the shutdown of US aegis system in the donald cook..  lol1
    Man this looks insanely too good to be true.. but will be really amazing if true.  
    Just imagine this?  If Russia counter electronics can disable Aegis ,that is US best defense
    system.. then pretty much Russia should have no problems to invade United States with
    its Airforce and be immune to  any system of defense or missile..  ALbeit Regular cannon fire
    and anti air artillery should work..

    Electromagnetic weapon of Russia




    Looks like Alien technology to me.. don't know what to think really.. my guess is BS..
    or simply a major exageration. Smile
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    Post  Viktor on Sun Sep 27, 2015 8:00 pm

    All this ECM equipment is part mostly of PVO units and has been developed and introduced in service since Vietnam war - noting new here in that respect.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:31 am

    State defense order for facilities EW "Moscow-1" and "Mercury-BM" fulfilled ahead of schedule

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    In the spring it was reported that the Russian military advance got three helicopters Mi-8MTPR EW-1, equipment which allows you to protect a group of aircraft, ships and ground vehicles on the air strikes in a radius of several hundred kilometers, inhibiting multiple targets.

    Alexei Panin also said that the plant ahead of schedule this year, the state defense order for the delivery of electronic warfare (EW) "Moscow-1" and "Mercury-BM".

    "Shipment of these products by state order in 2015 we have fully completed this year. They have already been delivered to the troops, made the Armed Forces and are serving," - he said.

    Who added Panin, Kazan plant produces electronic warfare systems on state defense orders in 2016.

    The serial production of modernized systems of electronic warfare (EW) "Arm-AB" will begin within two years, said deputy director general of September 25 issuing this equipment Kazan Optical and Mechanical Plant Alexei Panin.

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    According to him, the supply of the basic version of the "Arm-AB" on the helicopter Mi-8MTPR-1, scheduled for 2015, will be completed in the near future.

    "We plan the development of mass production from next 2017 or the upgraded version of the complex - said Panin. - Currently Concern "Radio-electronic technology" finishes development work on the product. "

    Deputy director of the plant said that the company "almost every year developing new products in the field of electronic warfare, without stopping the production of previous products." In particular, according to Panin, it is planned to produce new complexes of EW on the chassis of KAMAZ trucks.

    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/68302/
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    Post  Guest on Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:02 pm

    "Серийное производство модернизированных комплексов радиоэлектронной борьбы (РЭБ) «Рычаг-АВ» начнется в течение двух лет. В настоящее время КРЭТ завершает опытно-конструкторские работы по данному изделию. Поставки базовой версии «Рычаг-АВ» на вертолете Ми-8МТПР-1, запланированные на 2015 год, будут завершены уже в ближайшее время. Об этом сообщил ТАСС заместитель гендиректора выпускающего это оборудование Казанского оптико-механического завода Алексей Панин. «Планируем освоение серийного производства со следующего или с 2017 года модернизированного варианта этого комплекса. В настоящее время концерн «Радиоэлектронные технологии» завершает опытно-конструкторские работы по данному изделию», - заявил он."

    Source and the rest of the article: http://kret.com/ru/news/4002/

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    "Serial production of modernised system for radioelectronical warfare Lever-AV (i suppose lever would be appropriate) will begin within 2 years period. In meantime KRET shall finish testing and construction works on it. Initial, basic version of Lever-AV on the base of Mi8MTPR-1 which was planned for 2015. shall be finished very soon. CEO of Kazan Optical and Mechanical Plant Alexei Panin said: "We are planning to start serial production of this modernised system next year or in 2017. In meantime Radioelectronic technologies company is finishing testing and consturcion works on it".

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue Sep 29, 2015 7:00 pm

    Russia: The King-maker of ECM Warfare since 1905...

    About 150 units of electronic warfare hardware used in Russia's Center-2015 drills
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    Post  George1 on Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:45 am

    The latest electronic warfare systems "Krasuha-4" came to East Military District
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    Post  Cyberspec on Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:30 am

    Manufacturer: Russian Defense Ministry before the end of the year will receive nine complexes EW "Moscow-1"

    "To date, we have delivered four sets of" Moscow-1 " still have to deliver five more. By the end of the year the Ministry of Defense will be delivered nine units. Of course, before the end of the year we will close the contract"

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    Post  max steel on Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:45 pm

    Russia’s Winning the Electronic War

    In Ukraine and Syria, Russian forces are using high-tech equipment to jam drones and block battlefield communications -- and forcing the U.S. to scramble to catch up.


    Spy Planes, Signal Jammers, and Putin’s High-Tech War in Syria

    Russian airplanes are battering rebel targets throughout Syria, but Moscow’s use of next-generation surveillance and communications-blocking equipment is packing a growing punch.

    Is That an R-330Zh Zhitel on the Road in Crimea?

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    Post  Kimppis on Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:46 pm

    max steel wrote:Russia’s Winning the Electronic War

    In Ukraine and Syria, Russian forces are using high-tech equipment to jam drones and block battlefield communications -- and forcing the U.S. to scramble to catch up.


    Spy Planes, Signal Jammers, and Putin’s High-Tech War in Syria

    Russian airplanes are battering rebel targets throughout Syria, but Moscow’s use of next-generation surveillance and communications-blocking equipment is packing a growing punch.

    Is That an R-330Zh Zhitel on the Road in Crimea?


    Could someone copy-paste those Foreign Policy articles? Thanks.
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    Post  x_54_u43 on Sat Oct 24, 2015 7:01 pm

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    Post  franco on Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:40 pm

    Part 1 of a 2-part article on Russian EW developments;
    http://vpk-news.ru/articles/27272
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    Post  sepheronx on Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:04 pm

    franco wrote:Part 1 of a 2-part article on Russian EW developments;
    http://vpk-news.ru/articles/27272

    Anvar Rajabov, 19:01, 5 October 2015
    Author hang noodles on the ears. What are the frequencies of the AWACS he knows, and that 200 megahertz - a UHF band, he does not understand. I saw the aerial banners, and did not understand what a range. And the size of the antenna can determine the wavelength of the radiation. Now, remember the Popova at the time were spark transmitters, frequency band emitted enormous. In the USSR proposed to use such generators for interference-free communication. Sitting on the couch picking your nose, you can not know the parameters of the equipment. Mishandled Cossack!

    To me, this article is absolutely useless/pointless.  Not only are they speculating everything (no actual data or evidence), but they are assuming a lot and cutting the systems down quite a bit from what I can read here.  So far, we have a member here who stated how NATO is having a fun time getting info and getting jammed pretty hard.  So I call BS on this article.

    Edit: I just read through its article on electronics import substitution and how it wont work. What a load of shit. Didnt even bother even to mention about T-Platforms or their Baikal electronics subsidiary. Didn't bother to talk about the advancements actually made (mentioned a 300mhz elbrus processor but not the Elbrus 4C as an example or upcoming 8C). Then no mention of the Baikal T or upcoming M. No mention the new software available and upcoming. No mention about other plants like the one in St.Pete producing additional components only the one in Kazan, etc. I would say it was a total failure of an article.
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    Post  franco on Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:28 am

    sepheronx wrote:
    franco wrote:Part 1 of a 2-part article on Russian EW developments;
    http://vpk-news.ru/articles/27272

    Anvar Rajabov, 19:01, 5 October 2015
    Author hang noodles on the ears. What are the frequencies of the AWACS he knows, and that 200 megahertz - a UHF band, he does not understand. I saw the aerial banners, and did not understand what a range. And the size of the antenna can determine the wavelength of the radiation. Now, remember the Popova at the time were spark transmitters, frequency band emitted enormous. In the USSR proposed to use such generators for interference-free communication. Sitting on the couch picking your nose, you can not know the parameters of the equipment. Mishandled Cossack!

    To me, this article is absolutely useless/pointless.  Not only are they speculating everything (no actual data or evidence), but they are assuming a lot and cutting the systems down quite a bit from what I can read here.  So far, we have a member here who stated how NATO is having a fun time getting info and getting jammed pretty hard.  So I call BS on this article.

    Edit: I just read through its article on electronics import substitution and how it wont work.  What a load of shit.  Didnt even bother even to mention about T-Platforms or their Baikal electronics subsidiary.  Didn't bother to talk about the advancements actually made (mentioned a 300mhz elbrus processor but not the Elbrus 4C as an example or upcoming 8C).  Then no mention of the Baikal T or upcoming M.  No mention the new software available and upcoming.  No mention about other plants like the one in St.Pete producing additional components only the one in Kazan, etc.  I would say it was a total failure of an article.

    The good, bad and ugly my friend. The truth always lies somewhere in between.
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    Post  sepheronx on Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:31 am

    franco wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:
    franco wrote:Part 1 of a 2-part article on Russian EW developments;
    http://vpk-news.ru/articles/27272

    Anvar Rajabov, 19:01, 5 October 2015
    Author hang noodles on the ears. What are the frequencies of the AWACS he knows, and that 200 megahertz - a UHF band, he does not understand. I saw the aerial banners, and did not understand what a range. And the size of the antenna can determine the wavelength of the radiation. Now, remember the Popova at the time were spark transmitters, frequency band emitted enormous. In the USSR proposed to use such generators for interference-free communication. Sitting on the couch picking your nose, you can not know the parameters of the equipment. Mishandled Cossack!

    To me, this article is absolutely useless/pointless.  Not only are they speculating everything (no actual data or evidence), but they are assuming a lot and cutting the systems down quite a bit from what I can read here.  So far, we have a member here who stated how NATO is having a fun time getting info and getting jammed pretty hard.  So I call BS on this article.

    Edit: I just read through its article on electronics import substitution and how it wont work.  What a load of shit.  Didnt even bother even to mention about T-Platforms or their Baikal electronics subsidiary.  Didn't bother to talk about the advancements actually made (mentioned a 300mhz elbrus processor but not the Elbrus 4C as an example or upcoming 8C).  Then no mention of the Baikal T or upcoming M.  No mention the new software available and upcoming.  No mention about other plants like the one in St.Pete producing additional components only the one in Kazan, etc.  I would say it was a total failure of an article.

    The good, bad and ugly my friend. The truth always lies somewhere in between.

    Yes it does.  But definitely not on the claims of your link.  Specifically the fact that he doesn't bring to the table evidence but a statement.  We actually do not know the specifications, but what Airbornwolf says is true, then kinda makes this article useless.

    His article on the technology aspect of it also gives me indication that this VPK-Name website is garbage 5th column crap.  Cause it really doesn't take much effort to do some research and already disprove a lot of claims. Some of the posts are not bad. But the titles to their pages are cringe worthy, much like the Globe and Mail or the Inquirer.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:57 am

    franco wrote:
    The good, bad and ugly my friend. The truth always lies somewhere in between.

    Hardly the case here, just pure speculative baloney, which is unusual because vpk-news is usual a good site. As far as ECM goes, some of the claims of KRET leading a marketing campaign is pure supposition and hyperbole.

    Real world experience is by far the best measuring stick, and why is it so hard to believe Russia has significant lead/advantage in ECM? I mean Russia has been experimenting in ECM warfare/tactics for 110 years, in which successfully deployed ECM tactics back in the 1905 Russo-Japanese war, specifically in the Defense of Port Arthur:




    We can also look at NATO exercises with Slovakian S-300 PMU's, one of the most outdated and obsolete versions of the system and the relevance, context and circumstance of their performances against it using NATO standard ECM tactics.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:07 am

    KRET general designer said on combating the doctrine of "prompt global strike"
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    Post  Cyberspec on Fri Oct 30, 2015 5:57 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:KRET general designer said on combating the doctrine of "prompt global strike"

    Should be interesting....EW system to jam the Missile Defence System Radars.
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    Post  max steel on Sun Nov 01, 2015 11:54 pm

    Russia has just unveiled its cutting-edge weapon a ‘visual optical jammer’ called "Grach" which emits light so powerful that it can literally blind enemies.

    This weapon is expected to be used in Russia’s ongoing military operation against ISIS militants in Syria.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Nov 02, 2015 11:05 pm

    The Russian Defense Ministry recently demonstrated the effectiveness of President-S defense complex, which defeated a volley of Igla manpad missiles:



    "President" to protect against rocket salvo

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