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    Post  yavar Thu May 10, 2018 1:41 am

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    Post  lycantrop Thu May 10, 2018 1:44 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Vann7 wrote:....
    There are times that you need to strike back.. Look at when the israel f-16 was shot down.. Israel was pacifiedpacified for an entire week


    Week is long gone. They don't seem so pacified now and I doubt that anything will be getting shot down

    Vann7 wrote:.... and Russia leaving latakia will be encouraging Syrian enemies to reverse all the gains
    of Russia in 3 years. not an option.. Russia needs to stand there firm....

    I never said leave, I said detach Latakia. Create separate country and leave rest of it to USA, Israel and Iran to fiddle with. It's all just worthless desert anyway.

    Syrians just fucked big time by falling for this.

    I hope that reason for Bengie's visit to Moscow was to coordinate this mess so hopefully Russian interests would not be affected.

    Also, it might be reason why Iran went full retard now, they didn't want to lose influence and tried to box Russia in.

    Srsly dude, take your medicine and go to bed....
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    Post  par far Thu May 10, 2018 1:47 am

    KiloGolf wrote:They should have listened to Russia and refrained from responding, at least until Daraa and Quinetra were cleared out of beardies.
    Their own capital still has ISIL present and Idlib/Homs/Aleppo are still serious launching pads for destabilizing Syria.

    Idiots.


    If the SAA is hitting back, they probably have clearance from Russia, the SAA would not attack any foreign force without having it cleared it up with Russia first.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Thu May 10, 2018 1:48 am

    yavar wrote: from Syria to Israel

    wait Golan Heights is actually Syria, so in such case Syria was firing on Syrian territory isnt it?
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    Post  par far Thu May 10, 2018 1:49 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    KiloGolf wrote:
    Militarov wrote:"Iran's Quds Force launched some 20 missiles into #Israeli-controlled territory - Israeli media" - Sputnik

    "IDF says air raid sirens heard in occupied #GolanHeights, without providing any details as to what triggered the alert" - RT

    "BREAKING: Syrian territory shelled from Israeli-occupied Golan Heights – state media" - RT

    Any further cheesy info?

    Hope is not true and also hope Israel won't go all Lebanon on them.
    Iran is sh1ttin all over the progress Russia achieved in Syria.

    It's true and Israel is getting ready to do precisely that, air campaign is already revving up

    Syrian morons took the bait, hook, line and sinker and will be getting assraped into extinction now

    Listening to Iran really paid off, eh?

    Hopefully IDF limits the action to erasing units near Golan and leaves rest of it alone (unlikely though), those clowns in the south did not contribute to counter insurgency ops anyway.

    Russia better start detaching Latakia if this escalates.


    In a situation like this, the SAA would never listen to Iran because they know, that Iran does not have the military or politically force to help them out, Russia is involved in this one way or another.
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu May 10, 2018 1:52 am

    par far wrote:
    KiloGolf wrote:They should have listened to Russia and refrained from responding, at least until Daraa and Quinetra were cleared out of beardies.
    Their own capital still has ISIL present and Idlib/Homs/Aleppo are still serious launching pads for destabilizing Syria.

    Idiots.


    If the SAA is hitting back, they probably have clearance from Russia, the SAA would not attack any foreign force without having it cleared it up with Russia first.

    There is never shortage of morons and Iranians are known not to think before doing stupid shit

    Of course Israel will use this opportunity to stick extra johnson in Syrian butthole as usual
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    Post  Isos Thu May 10, 2018 1:53 am

    par far wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    KiloGolf wrote:
    Militarov wrote:"Iran's Quds Force launched some 20 missiles into #Israeli-controlled territory - Israeli media" - Sputnik

    "IDF says air raid sirens heard in occupied #GolanHeights, without providing any details as to what triggered the alert" - RT

    "BREAKING: Syrian territory shelled from Israeli-occupied Golan Heights – state media" - RT

    Any further cheesy info?

    Hope is not true and also hope Israel won't go all Lebanon on them.
    Iran is sh1ttin all over the progress Russia achieved in Syria.

    It's true and Israel is getting ready to do precisely that, air campaign is already revving up

    Syrian morons took the bait, hook, line and sinker and will be getting assraped into extinction now

    Listening to Iran really paid off, eh?

    Hopefully IDF limits the action to erasing units near Golan and leaves rest of it alone (unlikely though), those clowns in the south did not contribute to counter insurgency ops anyway.

    Russia better start detaching Latakia if this escalates.


    In a situation like this, the SAA would never listen to Iran because they know, that Iran does not have the military or politically force to help them out, Russia is involved in this one way or another.

    Agree. Iran would have targeted biger bases in israel. While they only fired at Golan targets because politicaly it is easier to defend SAA because they responded to Israeli attack and target occupying forces. No on reconize golan being israel. That means Russian generals told them what to do and what not to do.
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu May 10, 2018 1:57 am


    Possible silver lining here but unconfirmed, Israeli​s seem to be going after Iran and may not targeting SAA too hard

    https://mobile.twitter.com/michaeldweiss/status/994341081599930369

    Israel confirming this wasn't a militia or Assad but the Quds Force means you can expect more airstrikes this week.
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    Post  par far Thu May 10, 2018 1:59 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    par far wrote:
    KiloGolf wrote:They should have listened to Russia and refrained from responding, at least until Daraa and Quinetra were cleared out of beardies.
    Their own capital still has ISIL present and Idlib/Homs/Aleppo are still serious launching pads for destabilizing Syria.

    Idiots.


    If the SAA is hitting back, they probably have clearance from Russia, the SAA would not attack any foreign force without having it cleared it up with Russia first.

    There is never shortage of morons and Iranians are known not to think before doing stupid shit

    Of course Israel will use this opportunity to stick extra johnson in Syrian butthole as usual


    One the dumbest statements. Iranian can get hit and they will do the best thing(whether that is hitting back or waiting), go back to the Iran-Iraq and you will find out that the US was hitting Iran with attacks and Iran never responded because they knew that was a mistake. Ever since 1979, Iran has never done anything before thinking, ever war they were involved in since 1979, they have sacrificed soldiers if it meant something for the greater good. Iran knows whats at stake here, before saying anything we need more information.
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    Post  Vann7 Thu May 10, 2018 2:00 am

    Israel is desperately seeking to start a world war 3..
    They targeting now anything of value for Syria.. ie.. its international airport..


    @wael

    #Update 10
    #Syria/n Air Defense Forces downed 8 hostile UAVs west of #Damascus most of them were suicide drones, sent against the AD systems.


    #Update 11
    More hostile missiles are being engaged over #Damascus and its international airport.



    and some reports that ISrael have been hitting Russian special forces positions in south of damascus ?
    This will not end well..  Israel is clearly provoking Russia into a temporary fight.. or to retreat in the
    demands of Israel of allowing them to freely bomb anything they want in Syria..  No

    my theory ,strong believe.. is that Israel began to replace ISIS and target more frequenty Syrian army ,
    the moment eastern Ghouta began to be liberated...and once liberated that city.. after saw some reports of
    captured British forces and killed Americans and Israeli inside Damascus Ghouta. Combined with Saudi Arabia
    saying after that that assad can stay.. it just make me believe that the Liberation of eastern Ghouta in Damascus
    was the last hope of NATO zionist powers and Israel to capture damascus.. and now Israel is desperate for the gains
    of Syrian army ,and so why they took the decision to wage a small scale war against Syria directly..
    So this was my main question.. Why Israel remained largely quiet for 7 years until 2018 ? it had to do..
    that they were expecting their Rebels to do the job of over running Syria.. Notice how NATO launched 105 cruise
    missile..the very moment , Syrian army captured eastern Ghouta.. So from now on.. the major fights /challenges ad for Syria will be Israel army and NATO interference.



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    Post  par far Thu May 10, 2018 2:00 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Possible silver lining here but unconfirmed, Israeli​s seem to be going after Iran and may not targeting SAA too hard

    https://mobile.twitter.com/michaeldweiss/status/994341081599930369

    Israel confirming this wasn't a militia or Assad but the Quds Force means you can expect more airstrikes this week.


    I would not trust anything that Israel is saying.
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    Post  par far Thu May 10, 2018 2:07 am

    lycantrop wrote:http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/2503-breaking-news-missiles-launched-from-israeli-jets-into-syria


    ISRAELI ATTACKS HAVE KILLED AT LEAST TWO RUSSIAN REGULAR ARMY SOLDIERS IN SYRIA. ISRAEL HAS JUST DRAWN FIRST BLOOD

    AT LEAST TWO RUSSIAN MILITARY MEMBERS KILLED BY ISRAELI AIR STRIKES IN SYRIA!  ONE SPETZNAZ, AND ONE REGULAR RUSSIAN ARMY.  ISRAEL HAS DRAWN FIRST-BLOOD FROM RUSSIA. 6:45 PM EDT

    Is this true? I don't think the SAA would attack Israel on their own, the meetings Netanyahoo and Putin did not well according to reports.


    I think that area around Israel(the Daraa province) was the next target because everything is mostly cleared and this is why it happened.

    I think Vann mentioned before me.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Thu May 10, 2018 2:15 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    par far wrote:
    KiloGolf wrote:They should have listened to Russia and refrained from responding, at least until Daraa and Quinetra were cleared out of beardies.
    Their own capital still has ISIL present and Idlib/Homs/Aleppo are still serious launching pads for destabilizing Syria.

    Idiots.


    If the SAA is hitting back, they probably have clearance from Russia, the SAA would not attack any foreign force without having it cleared it up with Russia first.

    There is never shortage of morons and Iranians are known not to think before doing stupid shit

    Of course Israel will use this opportunity to stick extra johnson in Syrian butthole as usual

    What?

    Since when Iran has done "hasty" wet work? Actually from what I'm seeing, the goal is simple, slow down any possible pacification of Syria. And just put pressure on Iran. Now why would the Quds Force attack the Israelis in the Golan? They can easily pull the usual ATGM attack on the Lebanese border.

    This screams pulling the sheets as fast and as far as they can, in order to make the Iranian look like asses. Unfortunately, the Syrians are overdoing this and basically are attracking all the shit to them, thus to Russia. Middle East, the World's retardation champions. I can't believe we worship a God these morons invented.

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    Post  Vann7 Thu May 10, 2018 2:16 am

    par far wrote:
    Is this true? I don't think the SAA would attack Israel on their own, the meetings Netanyahoo and Putin did not well according to reports.


    I think that area around Israel(the Daraa province) was the next target because everything is mostly cleared and this is why it happened.

    I think Vann mentioned before me.

    IT could be... and even much more.. Since Israel never warns Russia of any bombings in Syria..
    Contrary to Trump that tells Russia were they will bomb and when. To avoid Russian casualties..
    Israel bomb anywhere it wants regardless of Russian soldiers...lives..  since they are bombing
    all Military airports of Syria and Russian soldiers advisors had to be operating Syrian air defenses or providing support
    for Syrian army.. So make no mistake Israel knows they are risking the lives of Russian soldiers and still do it...
    this is very hostile against Russia operations in Syria.


    In any case Russia artillery forces ,missile forces are the most powerful in the world. second to none..
    and so i hope that Putin predicted an Israel invasion a year or more ago..the more Syria liberated cities..
    So that Russia provided Syria with enough Artillery and missile forces and training to leave a bloody nose
    and a broken leg to Israel for any adventure invading Syria..  We saw thanks to Palestinians..what happens
    to any nation that allows israel military to freely move in their own country.. it ends with israel stealing their lands
    and taking little by little every inch of land ,with the pretext of "Self defense" .


    update major big news...
    Seems Israel is pushing for a big scale war..



    UPDATE 7:50 PM EDT (STAFF) -

    Syria scored direct hits on Israel early warning intelligence points around the entire occupied Golan Heights.

    Syrian air defenses are firing at rockets over the city of Damascus as Israel continues its attacks.

    Until THIS moment, no major US mass-media outlet has mentioned even one aspect of today's developments, but CNN International just did a 30 second piece telling their viewers "Iran rockets were fired at Israel today from a base in Syria" and that they are keeping an eye on it.   Apparently the truth and the facts have no place at CNN.



    UPDATE 7:56 PM EDT (STAFF)

    We just received detailed information from one of Mr. Turner's former Intelligence Community colleagues and we're not certain how much of this to report.  (I've never gotten a call like this before.)   According to this Intelligence Operative, the Israel Air Force is preparing a full air assault to attack and destroy all Air Defense systems inside the entire country of Syria within the next few hours.  These attacks will also target Russian air defenses in and around the Russian navy base at Tartus and the Russian air base at Latakia.  Israel wants Syria and Russia totally defenseless.

    An Israeli tank has been destroyed on the outskirts of a place called Shaaba Farms in Southern Lebanon.



    i know turner claim is CNN  ...so it cant be taken at value the things they claim but sometimes they report the truth..they claiming apparently ,their insiders that Israel is preparing for a full scale attack on all Syria air defenses
    including Russia S-400s..  Neutral


    UPDATE 8:32 (STAFF)

    Warning Sirens sounding in Haifa, Israel.
    The Israeli government has invoked Military Media Censorship upon all Israeli media outlets. They are forbidden to report on the ongoing clashes and cannot report on the severe damage done to Israeli outposts and military infrastructure in the Golan Heights in response to the Israeli attacks against Syria.


    If Israel attack Russia military base is game over.. for them..
    perhaps is time we will see those Iskanders hitting Israel military bases?



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    Post  ATLASCUB Thu May 10, 2018 2:46 am

    Rabid dog on the loose...

    The amount of idiots in this forum is truly endless.
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Thu May 10, 2018 2:56 am

    Isreal isn't going to attack the Russian's, that would be suicide on their part.

    Nor is Isreal going to launch some massive ground invasion.

    Cause at that point Russia will be forced to take down any aircraft that enter Lebanon airspace and BB doesn't want his planes being threatened when they enter that air space.
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Thu May 10, 2018 3:30 am

    Okay so now the Isreali's are trying to pacify SAA Air defenses.

    It's going to be a long night.

    When this is done we will have to see who caused more damage to who.

    Edit: they appear to be only going for air defenses that are shielding Iranians. so it's a very isolated thing atm
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    Post  GarryB Thu May 10, 2018 3:42 am

    Israel confirming this wasn't a militia or Assad but the Quds Force means you can expect more airstrikes this week.

    Pretty clear what is happening... Israel wants to prove that Iran is a threat to world peace and its forces in Syria are a direct threat to Israel... so they launch an attack on known locations occupied by Iranian forces (note occupied has many connotations, but in this instance I mean legally and legitimately occupied... as opposed to occupied Palestinian land for example, or the Golan Heights, which is also illegally occupied Syria...) in the expectation that those they fire upon will return fire and they will use the magic of western media who never ask too many questions, to prove it was the Iranian forces that attacked first and therefore represent a clear and present danger to Israel... therefore sanctions are needed by everyone to get them to behave again... and of course this also proves everything Israel said about Iran breaking the agreement and developing nuclear weapons must also be true.

    Of course they wont be attacking Assads forces, and they certainly wont want to take on the Russians... they probably want the Russians to join the sanctions... but that wont happen I don't think... Russia is still pissed off at the Europeans over the missile strike.
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    Post  Vann7 Thu May 10, 2018 3:54 am

    Israel airforce is bullying Russian airforce.. not good..




    #Update 17
    #Russia/n Air Force intercepted #Israel/i jets over north #Lebanon.





    Edit: they appear to be only going for air defenses that are shielding Iranians. so it's a very isolated thing atm


    Not true.. israel army is shelling Syrian army positions.. not iranians.. targeting Syrian air defenses and Syrian airports
    and ammo depots.. they even targeting the headquaters of Syrian army too.. and the most important thing
    of all that Israel is not coordinating anything with Russia... so it does not care of any Russian casualties their strikes
    could do... This is not a war against Syria..but against Russia.. Is simply Israel trying to impose its will on Syria
    and force Russia out of Syria or at least to give full freedom to bomb anything they want in Syria . They don't want
    a strong Syrian state that can defend itself ,from israel..if Attacked this is their goal.. Iran have nothing to do with this attacks.. Even Israel itself published on RT a map ,of the roadmap of Syria... months ago.. before any tensions ..were so high. in that MAP israel shows their goal is to create a buffer zone in most of Southern Syria and to keep Damascus city and Government buildings withing strike distance of Israel artillery. So basically they want to dismember the Syrian state , no more and no less .. but also the destruction of IRAN too.. and they will also will want to See Russia to collapse too.. like soviet union did. So This is a proxy war in reality between Israel against Russia.. They target
    the same defenses that Russia setup for Syria..



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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Thu May 10, 2018 4:01 am

    Vann7 wrote:

    Israel airforce is bullying Russian airforce.. not good..




    #Update 17
    #Russia/n Air Force intercepted #Israel/i jets over north #Lebanon.




    There is no ounce of proof to show this happened, don't believe everything you read online.
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    Post  GarryB Thu May 10, 2018 4:07 am

    Indeed, the Israelis can be unpredictable, but they are not irrational...

    It suits their purpose to make Iran the bad guy and Iran is already their enemy, but to make Russia their enemy is not in their interests... long or short term.

    Assad they likely don't care much about either way, though they would probably prefer him out if he is going to let Iran on Syrian territory.
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    Post  Vann7 Thu May 10, 2018 4:09 am

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    There is no ounce of proof to show this happened, don't believe everything you read online.

    it comes from WAEL..

    a very major source of the Syrian conflict. he have sources from Syrian government..
    and Apparently Russia.. and reports every attack of Israel..

    https://twitter.com/waelalrussi?lang=en

    His reports shows Israel is provoking Russia into a fight.. north lebanon is close to Russia tartus base..
    how dare israel do this ? Is threatening Russia own security , perhaps they wanted to bomb very close
    to Russian base to send a message to Putin.

    update..

    [quote]
    Within Syria


    @WithinSyriaBlog
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    SANA a radar of the Syrian Air Defense Force was hit with an Israeli missile


    So see ? this have nothing to do with Iran.. Israel wants to destroy all air defenses of Syria ,
    so that later they can fly with impunity over any place and bomb Syrian army all they want.
    If Israel wanted to fight IRAN..it will bomb IRAN and not Syria, across the red sea.. but this is all
    about Destroying Syrian air defenses.. so that Israel air force can bomb Syria in peace without
    any opposition and reverse the gains of syrian army. ..
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Thu May 10, 2018 4:14 am


    That guy has also been wrong on many occasions and Isreal got ONE Radar.

    Big deal, that is super easy to replace.

    Isreal isn't picking a fight with russia, it's insanity to think they are.

    Your are trying to fan smoke into fire is all here
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    Post  Vann7 Thu May 10, 2018 4:28 am

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    That guy has also been wrong on many occasions and Isreal got ONE Radar.

    Big deal, that is super easy to replace.  


    Correct...
    And what does this tells you about Israel real intentions?



    Isreal isn't picking a fight with russia,

    Incorrect..

    Just think about your first correct statement.. If Israel knows that Russia can replace
    quickly Syrian radars... then why Israel bothers hitting those radars ?  mmm

    The fact that Israel is bombing
    1)ALL Syrian air defenses deployed by Russia
    2)And bombing all positions of Syrian army regardless if any Russians are there...

    then what does this tell you about Israel respect for Russia?

    This is israel provoking Russia into a limited fight.. They know that Russia is predictable
    and will not engage in a war with Israel ..unless their base directly attacked and many soldiers killed..
    So they don't attack Russian base.. but still continues bombing all the weapons and air defenses that Russia gave to Syria. So ...You don't see this as an hostility against Russia.. ??  This is an act of war of israel on Russia actually
    because they are sending a clear message that israel will NOT CARE about the lives of Russian soldiers and will
    bomb anywhere they want..  regardless if Russians are there or not.. Israel even have bombed before near Tartus..
    so if this is not a provocation no idea what is..  No

    Isreal is provoking Russia ,to scare them ,so they drop the support of Assad.. and so allow israel to destroy Syria
    as they please.

    summary updates until now.. by wael..


    Summary of what happened tonight:

    1 #Israel Targeted SAA in south #Syria
    2 #SAA responded by targeting the Israeli army positions in Jolan Heights
    3 Israel tried to target Syrian positions with Stand-off missiles
    4 SAA intercepted 70% of the missiles and re-targeted Israel

    Wael  ????????


    @WaelAlRussi
    2m2 minutes ago

    Positions that got hit in both sides
    #Syria
    -S-200 radar
    -4th Division command
    -Ammo depot in Jumrayah
    -The RG command on Qasyun mountain.
    -Damascus international airport

    #Isreal
    -Iron dome radar in Safad
    -3 Israeli forward position
    -Helicopter pad near Um Fahem
    -Position near Jerusalem


    apparently Israel lost a tank too to artillery.. and radars in golan heights..
    this is not mentioning the communications and EW positions of Israel ,secretly deployed
    inside Syria 12 to 24 hours ago by Russia airforce .

    there had to be several  hundreds of attacks by israel alone
    between Artillery and missiles.. since their attack have been going non stop for hours.


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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Thu May 10, 2018 4:35 am

    You know nothing of tactics, the answer is fairly simple because Russia cannot replace the radar in the next hour they clearly wanted it to silence it so they could go for some Iranians.

    If Israel was really trying to destroy Syrian AD they would have gotten more then one radar, they weren't attacking how you would if your mission was to silence air Defence

    Everything else in your post has nothing to do with anything.

    Uh so? doesn't matter if Russia gave it to them russians aren't manning them.

    You really think Russia is going to shoot down Isreali aircraft because they destroyed some old radar really?.

    When Russia hands it over it's Syrian weapons then, doesn't matter where it came from what matters is who is operating it.

    This convo got silly, I am finished with it.

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