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    Russian Navy: Status & News #4

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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:02 am


    New naval base in Novorosiysk will be completed by the end of the year but it looks like it's already up and running.

    Bykov patrol ships and Kilo subs have recently been stationed there. This is their home base. Buyans will probably be operating from there as well.

    More photos in link:

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/119487/

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    Post  verkhoturye51 Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:52 am

    New naval base in Novorosiysk will be completed by the end of the year but it looks like it's already up and running.

    Wow, I was aware of modernization of Kaspian sea base, but not this one. Do you have any extra info?

    It looks like Novorossiysk is a secondary base in Black sea, after Sevastopol. In case main base gets a hit or is cut off, they have an alternative. Plus protection of Russian mainland in the Krasnodar region and patrolling base for eastern Black sea.
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    Post  Hole Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:03 am

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    Post  Hole Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:04 am

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    Post  hoom Sat Apr 27, 2019 2:45 pm

    It looks like Novorossiysk is a secondary base in Black sea, after Sevastopol.
    It has been being developed since 2003 as a new primary BSF base since Ukraine had indicated they wouldn't renew the Sevastopol lease which was due to expire in 2017.
    But then they did renew it in 2010 for another 25yrs so it went on backburner.

    Then the coup, secession of Crimea and accession to Russia -> awkward situation of having 2 major bases on a small enclosed sea.
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    Post  Isos Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:17 pm

    hoom wrote:
    It looks like Novorossiysk is a secondary base in Black sea, after Sevastopol.
    It has been being developed since 2003 as a new primary BSF base since Ukraine had indicated they wouldn't renew the Sevastopol lease which was due to expire in 2017.
    But then they did renew it in 2010 for another 25yrs so it went on backburner.

    Then the coup, secession of Crimea and accession to Russia -> awkward situation of having 2 major bases on a small enclosed sea.

    Use it as a civilian port.
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    Post  kvs Sat Apr 27, 2019 4:33 pm

    Isos wrote:Kuznetsov and Sovs are small players compare to this one hahaha

    Smetlivy is making clouds hahaha lol1

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Capt_Navy/status/1121473338117885952

    https://i.servimg.com/u/f71/19/35/56/92/d5bgca10.jpg

    Pathetic photoshop. Four emission plumes starting at deck level. What rubbish.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Apr 27, 2019 5:11 pm

    Isos wrote:
    hoom wrote:
    It looks like Novorossiysk is a secondary base in Black sea, after Sevastopol.
    It has been being developed since 2003 as a new primary BSF base since Ukraine had indicated they wouldn't renew the Sevastopol lease which was due to expire in 2017.
    But then they did renew it in 2010 for another 25yrs so it went on backburner.

    Then the coup, secession of Crimea and accession to Russia -> awkward situation of having 2 major bases on a small enclosed sea.

    Use it as a civilian port.


    Why the hell would they use purpose built military base as civilian port?

    Is there some massive downsizing of fleet that they haven't announced yet? I assumed they were trying to rebuild the fleet?
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    Post  Hole Sat Apr 27, 2019 5:32 pm

    Two bases are better then one. Wink

    There is already a large civilian port in Novorossijsk.
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    Post  Isos Sat Apr 27, 2019 5:44 pm



    Because they planed only one.

    Black sea fleet can fit in one port. Even more when smetlivy is removed from service and scrapped.

    Military port are expensive to maintain.


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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Apr 27, 2019 6:55 pm

    Isos wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Isos wrote:
    hoom wrote:
    It looks like Novorossiysk is a secondary base in Black sea, after Sevastopol.
    It has been being developed since 2003 as a new primary BSF base since Ukraine had indicated they wouldn't renew the Sevastopol lease which was due to expire in 2017.
    But then they did renew it in 2010 for another 25yrs so it went on backburner.

    Then the coup, secession of Crimea and accession to Russia -> awkward situation of having 2 major bases on a small enclosed sea.

    Use it as a civilian port.


    Why the hell would they use purpose built military base as civilian port?

    Is there some massive downsizing of fleet that they haven't announced yet? I assumed they were trying to rebuild the fleet?

    Because they planed only one.

    Black sea fleet can fit in one port. Even more when smetlivy is removed from service and scrapped.

    Military port are expensive to maintain.


    Ports are not expensive to maintain, fleet is

    Russia has dumb habbit of putting all eggs in one basket, this is welcome change
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    Post  Admin Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:40 pm

    Clean up your quote boxes and only quote to what you are responding to. Both of you have been here long enough to know better.
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    Post  Isos Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:58 pm

    Sorry. But isn't the "quote reply" automatically quoting only the part that the person we quote says and taking offwhat he quoted in its original message ?

    Sometime, rarely actualy, it does that. Maybe its a bug but it would be a nice idea to do so.
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    Post  Admin Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:09 pm

    Isos wrote:Sorry. But isn't the "quote reply" automatically quoting only the part that the person we quote says and taking offwhat he quoted in its original message ?

    Sometime, rarely actualy, it does that. Maybe its a bug but it would be a nice idea to do so.

    No, this is a 20yr old BBS software, it is not that advanced.
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    Post  GarryB Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:51 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Ports are not expensive to maintain, fleet is

    Russia has dumb habbit of putting all eggs in one basket, this is welcome change

    When you click on quote reply it will put the post in a set of quote brackets around each quoted part.

    When it does that just edit the text above your post and remove unneeded posts... it is not hard.

    Each set of brackets will have the name of the person being quoted, so at the top of the message box in this case I replied to PapaDragons post so there is this list of quotes:

    {quote="PapaDragon"}{quote="Isos"}{quote="PapaDragon"}{quote="Isos"}{quote="hoom"}

    Note I changed the square brackets to squiggly brackets so you can see them... in this case I am replying to PDs post and don't need to include the other comments so I leave the {quote="PapaDragon"} at the front and delete everything from there down to the second last {/quote}, which in this case leaves:

    {quote="PapaDragon"}
    Ports are not expensive to maintain, fleet is

    Russia has dumb habbit of putting all eggs in one basket, this is welcome change{/quote}

    at the top of my message to reply... again I use {} so you can see what I am talking about but the actual brackets are the square ones... to see what it looks like with square brackets, look at the top of this message.
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    Post  GarryB Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:54 am

    If anyone still doesn't understand feel free to ask for more clarity on the forum technical issues thread.
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    Post  verkhoturye51 Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:03 am


    It has been being developed since 2003 as a new primary BSF base since Ukraine had indicated they wouldn't renew the Sevastopol lease which was due to expire in 2017.

    It's actually good to have two bases in that region. After Georgian and Ukrainian crises it had to be stabilized. Nevertheless, it seems that Russians intend to operate 2 subs from Sevastopol, despite assigning all 4 Black sea based to Novorossiysk. It looks like 6 Bykov class corvettes will be the main surface ships of the new base, in addition to minesweppers. Now it's just the question when the heck will the second boat be commisioned. It's been on trials since last year and even participating in actual operations with other ships. Unless there are problems or they have to test additional equipment that is not on the first boat, it's unclear why it takes so long. Back in December they were saying it was delayed just for one month (=till January).
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    Post  Isos Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:56 am

    Seals being trained for submarine operations. What a Face I love you

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Capt_Navy/status/1122872896915947521
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    Post  George1 Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:22 am

    Isos wrote:Seals being trained for submarine operations.   What a Face  I love you

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Capt_Navy/status/1122872896915947521

    i know that in USSR dolphins were trained to destroy ships
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    Post  Isos Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:09 am

    George1 wrote:
    Isos wrote:Seals being trained for submarine operations.   What a Face  I love you

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Capt_Navy/status/1122872896915947521

    i know that in USSR dolphins were trained to destroy ships

    Belugas and seals too. But I think it was mostly for finding subs and mines, not for destroying anything. I doubt they can make a difference btw russian or nato subs.
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    Post  verkhoturye51 Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:16 am

    Surprise visit to Istanbul by Admiral Essen, today

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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:29 am

    verkhoturye51 wrote:Surprise visit to Istanbul by Admiral Essen, today

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    Maybe they want to sell more of these ships for export.
    Turkey has several ex american Oliver perry frigates with more.than 35 years of service that need replacement.
    If they are in good relationship with ukraine, they could get the engine for the ships form.zorya and Russia could build some of these frigates in a relative short time.
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    Post  Isos Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:46 am

    It is for an military exposition. Get some orders from Arab state would be nice for them. The market is huge as most of gulf states have rather small navies and Grigorovitch provides Klub missiles with 300km range that could be interesting for them.

    Gorshkov should have participated too or made visits during her trip.
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    Post  Guest Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:03 pm

    George1 wrote:
    Isos wrote:Seals being trained for submarine operations.   What a Face  I love you

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Capt_Navy/status/1122872896915947521

    i know that in USSR dolphins were trained to destroy ships

    Dolphins were trained in anti-saboteur roles, to find mines, recover objects from water and similar.
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    Post  verkhoturye51 Wed May 01, 2019 1:00 pm

    It is for an military exposition. Get some orders from Arab state would be nice for them. The market is huge as most of gulf states have rather small navies and Grigorovitch provides Klub missiles with 300km range that could be interesting for them.

    Gorshkov should have participated too or made visits during her trip.

    And here comes another Gorshkov's visit, thist time to Vladivostok. To remain here till Victory Day Parade, than it will move on. Some crazy Balancer guys betting on krugosvetka across Pacific What a Face Twisted Evil

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