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    Russian Navy: Status & News #4

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    Post  dino00 Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:13 pm

    The Russian leader also said that seven new multipurpose submarines would be handed over to the Russian Navy to protect the national interests of Russia two to three years earlier than the deadlines set by the state armaments program, and five surface ships of the far sea zone would be laid down in the near future.

    Another 16 ships of this class will be introduced into the Navy until 2027.
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    Post  hoom Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:08 pm

    7 total Yasens presumably? I think 'multipurpose submarines' is how they describe Yasens, I think they normally use different term referencing Kilos & Ladas?

    5 new Gorshkovs? Would make for 4 each to North & Pacific fleets.
    Or some Gorshkovs, some of other class/es eg 20386?

    Plus another 16.
    'Of this class' may be meaning 'far zone' ie Frigates -> could be the announced 10* 20386 plus 6 more Gorshkovs

    Missile fired toward Norwegian intel ship Marjata. But no hit. They only scared them. This ship is said to always monitor northern fleet during exercices or deployments.
    Surely not intentionally? If it was ignoring notification & sitting in the target area though...
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    Post  Isos Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:27 pm

    Surely not intentionally? If it was ignoring notification & sitting in the target area though...

    Well they knew the ship was there. I doubt they would have used newer missile than this one which seems to be old naval osa. It was probably too close to russian ships so they trolled tgem a little.

    No report on that just this video.
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    Post  Hole Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:53 pm

    The russian forces always announce well in advance when they use weapons in trials/maneuvers. But we know that the norwegian navy has a lot of troubles even with simple tasks of seamanship. Very Happy
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    Post  Isos Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:55 pm

    Real testing to beggin soon on the syrian coast Very Happy

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    #ВМФ #СФ????????#Russian #Navy Today, February 26, the RFS 454 'Admiral Gorshkov', a Admiral Gorshkov-class frigate / project 22350 departed Severomorsk naval base and start deployed to the Atlantic (possibly the Mediterranean Sea too).
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    Post  Hole Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:50 pm

    Will the Kalibers hit Idlib or Al-Tanf??? Twisted Evil
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    Post  Isos Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:16 pm

    Hole wrote:Will the Kalibers hit Idlib or Al-Tanf??? Twisted Evil

    Or zirkon Twisted Evil
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    Post  GarryB Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:57 am

    The Americans would be on the missile wreckage like flies on shit... I wouldn't even bother using Calibrs... dumb bombs dropped from aircraft operating at 10km plus altitude is fine....

    The people in Idlib are either terrorists or the families of terrorists and their supporters... there is no way an innocent honest patriotic Syrian could be living there without conflict with those animals... I suggest the Father of all Bombs should be tested...
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    Post  The-thing-next-door Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:33 am

    GarryB wrote:The Americans would be on the missile wreckage like flies on shit... I wouldn't even bother using Calibrs... dumb bombs dropped from aircraft operating at 10km plus altitude is fine....

    The people in Idlib are either terrorists or the families of terrorists and their supporters... there is no way an innocent honest patriotic Syrian could be living there without conflict with those animals... I suggest the Father of all Bombs should be tested...

    I second this!
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    Post  dino00 Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:18 pm

    Drone - submarine simulator: the Navy will receive a complex target

    For training anti-submarine weapons will develop underwater robots


    For the Navy, a unique trap target is created. This special underwater drone will simulate the magnetoacoustic "portraits" of submarines of various classes and types. The device will be used during training exercises for crews of anti-submarine ships and aircraft. During the war, the targets will get a real combat mission: they will mislead the enemy forces during the breakthrough of the anti-submarine lines.

    As reported by "Izvestia" in the General Staff of the Navy, work on the project has already begun, and innovative underwater drones are included in the list of advanced weapons. In parallel, the concept of their combat use is being developed.

    The new target robot is a drone with a large power reserve, capable of long maneuvering according to a predetermined program. During the exercises, he will replace full-fledged submarines: for this, the drone is equipped with a software and hardware complex that realistically simulates the movement of submarines. The target is equipped with special sensors and sensors, it allows you to lay the algorithm, thanks to which the robot will independently make decisions for maneuvering.

    The complex technical equipment of the device is capable of reproducing the noise and reflected acoustic fields of submarines of various classes and types. The target imitates reflected acoustic waves, a wake and other markers, unmasking a submarine - it is for them that anti-submarine ships, airplanes and helicopters are looking for enemy submarines.

    The use of simulators as hydroacoustic targets will be useful when training crews of ships, helicopters and airplanes. First of all, they will be useful for training acoustics-operators of anti-submarine forces.

    The appearance of a new drone will eliminate the need to remove submarines from combat duty in order to imitate a probable enemy during the submarine exercises, which will help the fleet to save significant funds. It is also important that the target will capture the actions of anti-submarine forces. This information is useful in the analysis of aircraft flights and actions of ships after maneuvers.

    During the war, trap targets will create dozens of false targets and disorient enemy anti-submarine weapons.

    The fleet receives more and more sophisticated means for organizing combat training and conducting combat operations, Admiral Valentin Selivanov, the former Chief of the Main Staff of the Navy, believes.

    “Robotic systems are constantly being improved, which allows us to expand the range of tasks for them,” says Valentin Selivanov. - In peacetime, such a target is a good tool for training your anti-submarine weapons. Special underwater drones will allow you to simulate various situations of a combat situation, including working out many complex elements. For example, a long tracking, during which the boat "lead" by technical means with the readiness of destruction at any time. They will also allow you to check the crews of anti-submarine ships in dueling situations - this method is the most effective way to assess the capabilities of the crews of anti-submarine ships and aircraft.

    Full article: https://iz.ru/843010/aleksei-ramm-aleksei-kozachenko/dron-imitator-submarin-vmf-poluchit-slozhnuiu-mishen
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    Post  Hole Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:34 am

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    Post  dino00 Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:34 am

    Valery Polovinkin, scientific director of Krylov State Research Center (KGNTS) interview

    Supervisor of KGNC: in the wars of the future everyone will use unmanned submarines and ships

    Full interview:http://www.militarynews.ru/story.asp?rid=2&nid=502952

    He talks about AIP, new destroyers, aircraft carriers etc...
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    Post  franco Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:05 am

    Mil.Press Today publishes the annual rating of Russian Navy's combat capabilities compared to the US one. Although 2018 generally turned out to be a fruitful year with seven combat ships commissioned, its positions regarding US Navy’s capabilities declined.



    http://mil.today/2019/Navy38/
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    Post  LMFS Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:14 am

    dino00 wrote:Valery Polovinkin, scientific director of Krylov State Research Center (KGNTS) interview

    Supervisor of KGNC: in the wars of the future everyone will use unmanned submarines and ships

    Full interview:http://www.militarynews.ru/story.asp?rid=2&nid=502952

    He talks about AIP, new destroyers, aircraft carriers etc...

    This interview is excellent, many thanks!
    If you don't mind, I would post some excerpts at the relevant threads...
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    Post  dino00 Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:31 pm

    LMFS wrote:
    dino00 wrote:Valery Polovinkin, scientific director of Krylov State Research Center (KGNTS) interview

    Supervisor of KGNC: in the wars of the future everyone will use unmanned submarines and ships

    Full interview:http://www.militarynews.ru/story.asp?rid=2&nid=502952

    He talks about AIP, new destroyers, aircraft carriers etc...

    This interview is excellent, many thanks!
    If you don't mind, I would post some excerpts at the relevant threads...

    Ofcourse i dont mind you are doing exactly the thing i should done lol1
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:01 pm

    franco wrote:Mil.Press Today publishes the annual rating of Russian Navy's combat capabilities compared to the US one. Although 2018 generally turned out to be a fruitful year with seven combat ships commissioned, its positions regarding US Navy’s capabilities declined.

    since Soviet ships re being retired or refurbished in shipyards no wonder.  I just wonder what will they say when  22350-M nd Liders go in series...






    dino00 wrote:Valery Polovinkin, scientific director of Krylov State Research Center (KGNTS) interview

    Supervisor of KGNC: in the wars of the future everyone will use unmanned submarines and ships
    .

    Of course drones will be definitely part of warfare. When I mentioned about drone ships with Zircons sailing along US coast I ve herd this is not good   Twisted Evil  Twisted Evil  Twisted Evil .  Like it was any cheaper way to keep US in constant alert.



    BTW talking about corvettes of the future Krylov's vision of future corvette on Army Expo  2017 . Compact Lider lol1 lol1 lol1
    But not even close in sexiness to 22160 russia russia russia

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    Post  George1 Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:15 am

    Ship composition of the Russian Navy (warships of 1-2 rank, NK - from 2000 tons full.) On 03/01/2019

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    Post  GarryB Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:26 am

    since Soviet ships re being retired or refurbished in shipyards no wonder. I just wonder what will they say when 22350-M nd Liders go in series...

    Or indeed when Zircon are fitted to corvettes and frigates while waiting for more platforms to load them into...

    Of course drones will be definitely part of warfare. When I mentioned about drone ships with Zircons sailing along US coast I ve herd this is not good Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil . Like it was any cheaper way to keep US in constant alert.

    And if there is an equipment failure or storm and a drone ship sinks near US waters... how is Russia going to get there before the CIA does... do you really want to hand over Zircon to the Americans?
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    Post  verkhoturye51 Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:14 am

    George1 wrote:Ship composition of the Russian Navy

    Really? No Shchuka B active in Northern fleet? 4 in modernization and 2 in reserve? Who is Shishking fooling with this pessimism? Fresh 2019 imagery shows 2 in Vidyayevo and 2 in Gadzhiyevo. Clearly Leopard and Vepr have finished modernization.


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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:49 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    And if there is an equipment failure or storm and a drone ship sinks near US waters... how is Russia going to get there before the CIA does... do you really want to hand over Zircon to the Americans?


    And if Russian manned ship sinks then what is the difference? 80s are over, no more Falklands, Harriers. AI + drones are definitely part of warfare. Who doesn't get it looses war before it even started.
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    Post  George1 Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:54 pm

    verkhoturye51 wrote:
    George1 wrote:Ship composition of the Russian Navy

    Really? No Shchuka B active in Northern fleet? 4 in modernization and 2 in reserve? Who is Shishking fooling with this pessimism? Fresh 2019 imagery shows 2 in Vidyayevo and 2 in Gadzhiyevo. Clearly Leopard and Vepr have finished modernization.


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    It seems that Aculas modernization/repair works are proceeding too slow
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    Post  verkhoturye51 Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:09 pm

    George1 wrote:It seems that Aculas modernization/repair works are proceeding too slow

    Things change. Zvezdochka has new director Sergey Verakso as of January. In the press release after his promotion, his deputy Golyshev stated that fulfilling state contracts was the highest priority. Wink

    https://zvezdochka-ru.livejournal.com/408106.html
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    Post  GarryB Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:42 am

    And if Russian manned ship sinks then what is the difference? 80s are over, no more Falklands, Harriers. AI + drones are definitely part of warfare. Who doesn't get it looses war before it even started.

    A manned ship they can send a small fleet of rescue ships that will ensure anything secret on board is not compromised and is guarded till decisions are made...

    A drone might be captured and they might not know until it fails to communicate...
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:48 am

    GarryB wrote:
    And if Russian manned ship sinks then what is the difference? 80s are over, no more Falklands, Harriers. AI + drones are definitely part of warfare. Who doesn't get it looses war before it even started.

    A manned ship they can send a small fleet of rescue ships that will ensure anything secret on board is not compromised and is guarded till decisions are made...

    A drone might be captured and they might not know until it fails to communicate...

    if manned ship sinks is they can send fleet but if drone sink they cannot? Manned ship can be captured and they wont know anything since crew is dead.

    BTW how many US drones flying close to Russia's cost was destroyed captured?
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