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    Post  par far Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:04 pm

    JohninMK wrote:The SDF's heavy artillery unit is heading home.

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    Read the same thing but it is probably false, they won't ever pull out of Syria.
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    Post  JohninMK Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:25 pm

    If true we may see more Syrian/Iraqi joint operations.

    Within Syria‏ @WithinSyriaBlog
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    The decision of withdrawing the tigers to Hama and giving the forces-led by Gen. Solimani the rule on all direction in Mayadin is a wise one, coordination was a nightmare that delayed the operations

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:27 pm

    par far wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:The SDF's heavy artillery unit is heading home.


    Read the same thing but it is probably false, they won't ever pull out of Syria.

    No its all over the place. This is something the US can do and get good PR from. They no longer need their 'siege' guns and it will please the Turks,
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    Post  JohninMK Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:33 pm

    That was a juicy target. I assume that usage of aircraft verses rank is different from the West.

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    Replying to @QalaatAlMudiq

    SW. #Damascus: Mount Hermon Rebels shot down a Mi-25, killing pilots Brig. General Ibrahim from #Masyaf area and Brig. General Saqr from #Latakia. Lt. Colonel Hassan from #Tartus CS also killed.

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    Post  Airman Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:43 pm

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    Post  eehnie Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:37 pm

    This war seems far of the end still, despite the fall of the ISIS.

    In overall terms is logical to see Syria keeping safer its most capable and most modern (as military concept) armament. Taking into account the reports it would be:

    SA-22
    SS-C-5
    SS-26
    T-90
    TOS-1
    BM-30
    SA-19
    SA-11/17
    SA-10/12/20/23
    Project 1265
    Su-24
    2S1
    SA-8
    Project 1258
    SA-6
    MiG-29/35
    BM-27
    Project 266
    Su-17/20/22
    2S3
    T-72
    SS-C-1
    SS-21
    SS-C-3
    2S4
    MiG-23
    SS-1 Scud
    ZSU-23-4

    This the armament that is most difficult to be restored by Russia.

    But also, (like in the case of the generals with bounties), would be the armament which destruction is most interesting for the US and Israel. Looking at the events in the battlefields, it seems that there are paramilitary groups in Syria with more advanced armament which fight is limited to hunt high rank officials and also this armament in order to weaken the Syrian Armed Forces and also the Syrian arsenals. Their fight would include also some armament of Iranian origin that is less known for me.


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    Post  JohninMK Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:02 am

    JohninMK wrote:That was a juicy target. I assume that usage of aircraft verses rank is different from the West.

    Qalaat Al Mudiq‏ @QalaatAlMudiq
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    SW. #Damascus: Mount Hermon Rebels shot down a Mi-25, killing pilots Brig. General Ibrahim from #Masyaf area and Brig. General Saqr from #Latakia. Lt. Colonel Hassan from #Tartus CS also killed.


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    #Syria EXCLUSIVE: a source in Jabal al-Sheikh Forces Union told #SNP that regime helicopter was shot today in Beit Jin in west #Damascus with 9K38 Igla MANPADS

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:39 am

    Here we go again



    Ivan Sidorenko‏ @IvanSidorenko1
    3m3 minutes ago

    #Syria #Damascus 5 Israeli jet Missiles we’re fired and 3 were allegedly intercepted video of one of them being intercepted

    #Syria #Damascus Couple Minutes Ago Air Defense Missiles launched again to address a breach by Israeli jets towards the south

    #Syria #Damascus A military site near Kiswah and then another one near Kanakir we’re Allegedly struck by Israeli Jets the target hit in Kiswah was Allegedly a warehouse

    #Syria #Damascus One Syrian Army Soldier Says “Israeli aggression on military points near al kiswa”

    #Syria #Damascus More Explosions Shake the city of Damascus - Most Likely Israeli Air raids on Military points towards the South West Countryside of Damascus

    #Syria #Damascus Loud Explosions are heard near the city of Damascus

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    Post  Cyberspec Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:12 am

    So it looks like the Syrian AA gunners are starting to show their teeth finaly....I'm guessing Pantsirs have been used to down the  missiles:?: ...although some are suggesting it was BUK-M2

    I don't think we have ever seen a more intense missile battle between Israel and Syria in the last ten years.

    https://twitter.com/leithfadel/status/936735513809125385

    Near the base, not the actual base. Syrian Army confirmed it was the 1st Division's ammo storage
    https://twitter.com/leithfadel/status/936745876978130944

    What's interesting is that some twitter reports claiming a succesful destruction of a base have been deleted. I'm also reading that apparently, the Jerusalem Post reported that an Iranian base near the Lebanese border has been destroyed and then deleted the report shortly afterwards

    ---

    A report from the area about a SAA counter attack, after repelling a jihadi attack timed with the Israeli airstrikes

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    Post  d_taddei2 Sat Dec 02, 2017 11:01 pm

    Cyberspec wrote:So it looks like the Syrian AA gunners are starting to show their teeth finaly....I'm guessing Pantsirs have been used to down the  missiles:?: ...although some are suggesting it was BUK-M2

    I don't think we have ever seen a more intense missile battle between Israel and Syria in the last ten years.

    https://twitter.com/leithfadel/status/936735513809125385

    Near the base, not the actual base. Syrian Army confirmed it was the 1st Division's ammo storage
    https://twitter.com/leithfadel/status/936745876978130944

    What's interesting is that some twitter reports claiming a succesful destruction of a base have been deleted. I'm also reading that apparently, the Jerusalem Post reported that an Iranian base near the Lebanese border has been destroyed and then deleted the report shortly afterwards

    ---

    A report from the area about a SAA counter attack, after repelling a jihadi attack timed with the Israeli airstrikes

    Syrian War: News #16 - Page 14 DQAE7etUMAEJYE1

    I was wondering what in SAA arsenal was used to shoot them done.
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    Post  d_taddei2 Sat Dec 02, 2017 11:11 pm

    eehnie wrote:This war seems far of the end still, despite the fall of the ISIS.

    In overall terms is logical to see Syria keeping safer its most capable and most modern (as military concept) armament. Taking into account the reports it would be:

    SA-22
    SS-C-5
    SS-26
    T-90
    TOS-1
    BM-30
    SA-19
    SA-11/17
    SA-10/12/20/23
    Project 1265
    Su-24
    2S1
    SA-8
    Project 1258
    SA-6
    MiG-25/35
    BM-27
    Project 266
    Su-17/20/22
    2S3
    T-72
    SS-C-1
    SS-21
    SS-C-3
    2S4
    MiG-23
    SS-1 Scud
    ZSU-23-4

    This the armament that is most difficult to be restored by Russia.

    But also, (like in the case of the generals with bounties), would be the armament which destruction is most interesting for the US and Israel. Looking at the events in the battlefields, it seems that there are paramilitary groups in Syria with more advanced armament which fight is limited to hunt high rank officials and also this armament in order to weaken the Syrian Armed Forces and also the Syrian arsenals. Their fight would include also some armament of Iranian origin that is less known for me.

    I slightly disagree Russia could easily supply
    T-72, 2s3, 2s1, zsu-23-4, sa-8, bm-27, sa-6, and to an extent su-24, with what Russia had in stock these shouldn't be a problem "mig-25/35"? Since when did Syria have mig-35? Although I am sure your going to tell me I am wrong.
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    Post  Cyberspec Sun Dec 03, 2017 2:14 am

    I was wondering what in SAA arsenal was used to shoot them done.

    Seems to have been either Pantsir-S1 or BUK-M2.....or both  Smile

    Report: Israel used Jericho I (surface-surface) missiles in Iranian base strike

    Russian officials tell Lebanese TV channel Al Mayadeen, which is affiliated with Hezbollah, that the IDF fired Jericho I surface-to-surface missiles for the first time, with one being intercepted by Russian aerial defense system.

    Israel reportedly launched Jericho I surface-to-surface missiles for the first time in its alleged attack on an Iranian base in Syria, Russian officials told Lebanese TV channel Al Mayadeen, which is affiliated with Hezbollah.

    Al Mayadeen reported that two Jericho I missiles were launched, with one of them intercepted by the Russian aerial defense system Pantsir-S1, which was deployed to Syria to protect Russian military personnel in the war-torn country.

    According to foreign sources, the missile has been in Israel's arsenal for decades, since the 1960s, but there have so far been no reports of such a missile being used in operational settings.

    Arab media outlets reported Saturday that Israel attacked an Iranian base near the town of al-Kiswah, 15 kilometers southwest of Syrian capital Damascus.


    Syrian state television corroborated the report, saying Israeli missiles struck a military position near Damascus overnight and Syria's air defense system thwarted them.


    "The Israeli enemy launched...several surface-to-surface missiles towards a military position," state television said, adding there had been "material losses" at the site.

    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5050932,00.html

    One of the projectiles...

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    Post  OminousSpudd Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:35 am

    Israelis still busy building their own coffin I see. I'm all for them hastening their own comeuppance. The Iranians won't take this one lying down I suspect... Twisted Evil
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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:44 am

    Who operated Pantsirs in this incident, Russians or Syrians​?

    If Russians then dumb move by Israel, if Syrians​ then bad new for Israel.

    So which is it?
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    Post  miketheterrible Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:16 am

    they were export Buk's so M2E which means Syrian AD. These guys I believe were trained in Russia.
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    Post  Cyberspec Sun Dec 03, 2017 6:26 am

    miketheterrible wrote:they were export Buk's so M2E which means Syrian AD.  These guys I believe were trained in Russia.

    Later reports suggest both systems were used....but we'll probably have to wait a bit for more authoritative confirmation

    #SyAAD’s Buk-M2 and Pantsir-S1 managed to down 3 missiles and 1 UAV during the #Israeli raids yesterday. 2 missiles managed to break through Casualties: 1 martyr.

    PapaDragon wrote:Who operated Pantsirs in this incident, Russians or Syrians​?

    If Russians then dumb move by Israel, if Syrians​ then bad new for Israel.

    So which is it?

    Sounds like Syrian crews but I'm betting they have "advisors" with them

    Another twitter report saying they used their new stuff...

    The missiles that were used by the Israeli Army are likely Predator Hawk guided ground to ground missile, not air launched according to some information I received from witnesses
    https://twitter.com/WithinSyriaBlog/status/936761956031180800

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    Post  Cyberspec Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:11 am

    The Geneva peace talks might have colapsed before they even began, with the oposition sticking to the "Assad must go" line...the Syrian Government has also taken a swipe at the UN lackey DeMistura...

    Syria gov’t envoy blasts ‘irresponsible’ opposition comments
    https://apnews.com/03aec8ca9e30411c82635c9910f0b074/Syria-gov%27t-envoy-blasts-%27irresponsible%27-opposition-comments
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    Post  d_taddei2 Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:47 am

    If indeed pantsir was used this would make it first operational interception of a missile. Pity the other two missiles got through I would have thought that if buk and pantsir was that they would have taken the other two missiles down as going by reports they were old model missiles being fired at target and I know nothing is 100% effective. But as stated will be interesting who operated them. Let's see if Tungkuska will finally get some action.

    But as for Israel they are just trying to prolong war in Syria as they see the end is near and also to start a war on Iran and hamas giving usa an excuse to scrap Iran deal and get involved with a war on Iran all because there syrian conquest failed.

    What I wish for is houthis to win yemen and for Israel to get what it deserves a severe beating. What ideally needs to happen is severe sanctions on Israel for its atrocities in gaza however it will never happen because of Usa licking the ring of Netanyahu if Usa and Israel won the war in Syria they would have installed one of there offspring in power in Syria. I personally think Usa plan in middle east has failed completely yet they keep going with Iraq and Libya not working as planned. There next move I believe will be an over spill from Afghanistan into central Asian countries this is there plan for sure. With many extremists in Syria coming from these countries as it is it wouldn't be hard and they have borders with 3 hated Usa countries Russia, Iran, China and they have oil and gas. It also creates problems for Russia on four fronts. 1. Central Asia, 2. Ukraine, 3. Increased Internal terrorist attacks on cities.4. Chenaya. Although 3 are existing the CIA will exacerbated these areas increasing the threats and attacks. But out break of terrorism in central Asia will also help derail China silk road belt project. And as for India and Pakistan and other countries the USA may then try to muscle in on arms deals as these countries seek to increase defence spending due to increased security risk although it would be tough to steal sales they would still try. It would also serve to drain spending on economic projects in these countries due money being diverted to defence spending as well as drive away investors. Hence China, India, and Pakistan should have helped out in Syria to kill as many terrorist scum as possible there idleness will come back to bite them when experienced and trained terrorists come back to roost in there countries
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    Post  calm Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:21 am

    Base is hit, waiting for clear satellite images.
    Till then.


    Yesterday's #Israel|i strikes geolocated: Regime base allegedly used by #Iran completely destroyed.
    https://twitter.com/QalaatAlMudiq/status/936987421274755073

    Report of that base
    last night #Israel struck a military base reportedly used by #Iran in Kiswah, S. of #Damascus. Recent sat images showed fresh renovation & building activities
    https://t.co/nADIrdhstZ


    Some people are saying it is a minor damage. Let's wait for HIres images
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    Post  calm Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:22 am

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    Post  KiloGolf Sun Dec 03, 2017 12:32 pm

    calm wrote:

    @46.35

    Balls of steel

    I like what I see, SAA is doing their part on the ground. Nothing extraordinary, but they fight as they're meant to.
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    Post  calm Sun Dec 03, 2017 1:19 pm

    #YPG Spox. @Nurimahmud1, DeirEzzor Civilian Council spox. and #Russian military officials press brief regarding DeirEzZor liberation campaign.

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    Post  franco Sun Dec 03, 2017 1:41 pm

    calm wrote:
    #YPG Spox. @Nurimahmud1, DeirEzzor Civilian Council spox. and #Russian military officials press brief regarding DeirEzZor liberation campaign.

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    dunno

    Both sides keeping the lines of communications open. Cannot see this making the US too happy.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Dec 03, 2017 2:04 pm

    Cyberspec wrote:The Geneva peace talks might have colapsed before they even began, with the oposition sticking to the "Assad must go" line...the Syrian Government has also taken a swipe at the UN lackey DeMistura...

    Syria gov’t envoy blasts ‘irresponsible’ opposition comments
    https://apnews.com/03aec8ca9e30411c82635c9910f0b074/Syria-gov%27t-envoy-blasts-%27irresponsible%27-opposition-comments

    Their choice, their asses.

    To the North! attack
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    Post  eehnie Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:20 pm

    d_taddei2 wrote:
    eehnie wrote:This war seems far of the end still, despite the fall of the ISIS.

    In overall terms is logical to see Syria keeping safer its most capable and most modern (as military concept) armament. Taking into account the reports it would be:

    SA-22
    SS-C-5
    SS-26
    T-90
    TOS-1
    BM-30
    SA-19
    SA-11/17
    SA-10/12/20/23
    Project 1265
    Su-24
    2S1
    SA-8
    Project 1258
    SA-6
    MiG-29/35
    BM-27
    Project 266
    Su-17/20/22
    2S3
    T-72
    SS-C-1
    SS-21
    SS-C-3
    2S4
    MiG-23
    SS-1 Scud
    ZSU-23-4

    This the armament that is most difficult to be restored by Russia.

    But also, (like in the case of the generals with bounties), would be the armament which destruction is most interesting for the US and Israel. Looking at the events in the battlefields, it seems that there are paramilitary groups in Syria with more advanced armament which fight is limited to hunt high rank officials and also this armament in order to weaken the Syrian Armed Forces and also the Syrian arsenals. Their fight would include also some armament of Iranian origin that is less known for me.

    I slightly disagree Russia could easily supply
    T-72, 2s3, 2s1,  zsu-23-4, sa-8, bm-27, sa-6, and to an extent su-24, with what Russia had in stock these shouldn't be a problem "mig-25/35"? Since when did Syria have mig-35?  Although I am sure your going to tell me I am wrong.

    MiG-29/35, thanks, corrected.

    To have units of them stored in the reserve means not to be unnecessary for Russia, for its own defense.

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