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    Post  JohninMK Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:44 am


    Ivan Sidorenko‏ @IvanSidorenko1 6h6 hours ago

    #Syria #DeirEzZor Report Earlier today About 65K, From the city & 50km from Sanouf Hill which is 1st Point of #SAA #NDF west of the city.


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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Thu Jul 27, 2017 1:12 pm

    Tiger forces captured AL-Kharraz, They are going in for a pincer maneuver When sukan is captured they can link up with the SAA in that direction easier and encircle that massive amount of ISIs held land that is in Hama still under their control that will make finishing off ISIS in that area much easier for them.
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    Post  JohninMK Thu Jul 27, 2017 1:22 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:Tiger forces captured AL-Kharraz, They are going in for a pincer maneuver When sukan is captured they can link up with the SAA in that direction easier and encircle that massive amount of ISIs held land that is in Hama still under their control that will make finishing off ISIS in that area much easier for them.
    They seem to have got the Russian 'cauldron' tactic down to a fine art. Outflank, encircle, smother. There seems to be little that ISIS can do about it, other than point or town suicide defence and guerilla tactics, given their lack of logistics, air power and artillery.

    If those Russian BM-30 are really there in numbers, giving directed long range suppression well ahead of the advancing SAA, they really have less than no hope.
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    Post  calm Thu Jul 27, 2017 2:46 pm

    my predictions for next months

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:18 pm

    SAA will get to Deir the month after next perhaps if things go EXTREMELY well for them they can get to Deir next month but I wouldn't count on that happening.

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:03 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:SAA will get to Deir the month after next perhaps if things go EXTREMELY well for them they can get to Deir next month but I wouldn't count on that happening.

    Do you think they need to get there next month or is Sept OK?
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    Post  calm Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:05 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:SAA will get to Deir the month after next perhaps if things go EXTREMELY well for them they can get to Deir next month but I wouldn't count on that happening.

    When will the Kurds be finished with Raqqa, tell us that.
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    Post  JohninMK Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:06 pm

    My instinct is that the SAA strike along the river is an attempt to force ISIS to pull forces back from Deir etc, or lower morale, as there are possibly lots of their families up there in what was expected to be a fairly safe area.

    Are there any road bridges still standing along that stretch of the river?

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:17 pm

    Peto Lucem‏ @PetoLucem 4m4 minutes ago

    NEW MAP: #SAA forces are advancing tow. #ISIS stronghold #Sukhna and besieged #DeirEzzor city. #Syria HD-map: http://www.mediafire.com/view/v9krcybbb6x8fp4/E%20SYRIAE%20SYRIA_27.07.17.jpg# …

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    JohninMK wrote: Peto Lucem‏ @PetoLucem 4m4 minutes ago

    NEW MAP: #SAA forces are advancing tow. #ISIS stronghold #Sukhna and besieged #DeirEzzor city. #Syria HD-map: http://www.mediafire.com/view/v9krcybbb6x8fp4/E%20SYRIAE%20SYRIA_27.07.17.jpg# …

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    They have some infrastructure under their control but it will be taken soon enough.

    Nothing worth worrying about really.

    Has for instincts it's more simple then that, they are forcing ISIS to choose what to defend.

    "You wanna hold here sure, we will just go this way then oh what's that you stopped us here? welp then we will attack from the area you had to pull guys away from.

    Whats odd is Suheil isn't facing much ISIS resistance, there should be more.

    However ISIS said over coms they gave up trying to seize Deir-Azzor (I thought it was just a bluff when I heard about it) so they maybe the reason
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:43 pm

    calm wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:SAA will get to Deir the month after next perhaps if things go EXTREMELY well for them they can get to Deir next month but I wouldn't count on that happening.

    When will the Kurds be finished with Raqqa, tell us that.

    Well lead an operation last night, we seized 50 percent of Raqqa so far, so end of the month after next is when we expect the city to be in kurd hands.
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    Post  calm Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:06 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    However ISIS said over coms they gave up trying to seize Deir-Azzor (I thought it was just a bluff when I heard about it) so they maybe the reason

    In last IS video from Daer(50min) they are explaining why they failed to capture the city. So yea, no luck for them, Daer was a black hole that saved some of the biggest citys in west Syria from falling under their control.

    If ther wasn't SAA in Daer to kill all those fanatics in endles human waves attacks on the city walls, they would shure used those forces to enter Aleppo or Damascus, Hama or Homs.
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    Post  JohninMK Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:40 pm

    Strange, I would have thought that the last thing the SDF wanted was some action on their flank when they are up to their necks in Raqqa. If this was 'real' artillery then it must have been the USMarines as publicly the SDF hasn't been given anything with a barrel size over 100mm, I think actually 80mm. So probably mortar or BMP type fire.


    BEIRUT, LEBANON (8:24 P.M.) – Four soldiers belonging to the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) have just been killed after artillery units of the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) shelled their position in western Raqqa Governorate.

    The attack took place along the contact line between the SAA and SDF in the southern Tabaqa region. The exact location of the engagement is currently unknown.

    Already the name of the four SAA soldiers killed by Kurdish-led forces have been released, their names are: Captain Hussam Al-Ali, Muhammad Al-Hammoud, Safwan Al-Diyab and Azar Ahmad.

    It is worth noting that this is not the first time the SAA and SDF have exchanged artillery fire in western Raqqa Governorate. It is well known that the US-led coalition is not happy with the presence of pro-government forces in the province.

    Nonetheless, whether this was just an opportunistic shelling carried out at the behest of local SDF commanders or part of an intended SDF-initiated escalation is yet to be seen.


    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-us-backed-sdf-attack-syrian-army-western-raqqa/
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    Post  JohninMK Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:48 pm

    Videos of Coalition spokesman in press conference at link.


    Ian Grant‏ @Gjoene 4h4 hours ago
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    Rumor goes #US wants to abandon #Tanf base and ship everything to #Shahadi front (where #SDF resides) to fight #ISIS

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    Col. Dilon says coalition will no longer support Shohada Quartayn operations in southern Syria. Will continue supporting VSO fighting ISIS.

    Jake Godin‏Verified account @JakeGodin 3h3 hours ago

    Col. Dillon on Tanf and VSO access to Abu Kamal/MERV: "We believe there will be an opportunity to use them against ISIS in MERV."


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    Post  par far Thu Jul 27, 2017 10:07 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Strange, I would have thought that the last thing the SDF wanted was some action on their flank when they are up to their necks in Raqqa. If this was 'real' artillery then it must have been the USMarines as publicly the SDF hasn't been given anything with a barrel size over 100mm, I think actually 80mm. So probably mortar or BMP type fire.


    BEIRUT, LEBANON (8:24 P.M.) – Four soldiers belonging to the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) have just been killed after artillery units of the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) shelled their position in western Raqqa Governorate.

    The attack took place along the contact line between the SAA and SDF in the southern Tabaqa region. The exact location of the engagement is currently unknown.

    Already the name of the four SAA soldiers killed by Kurdish-led forces have been released, their names are: Captain Hussam Al-Ali, Muhammad Al-Hammoud, Safwan Al-Diyab and Azar Ahmad.

    It is worth noting that this is not the first time the SAA and SDF have exchanged artillery fire in western Raqqa Governorate. It is well known that the US-led coalition is not happy with the presence of pro-government forces in the province.

    Nonetheless, whether this was just an opportunistic shelling carried out at the behest of local SDF commanders or part of an intended SDF-initiated escalation is yet to be seen.


    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-us-backed-sdf-attack-syrian-army-western-raqqa/


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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:36 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Videos of Coalition spokesman in press conference at link.


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    Rumor goes #US wants to abandon #Tanf base and ship everything to #Shahadi front (where #SDF resides) to fight #ISIS

    Jake Godin‏Verified account @JakeGodin

    Col. Dilon says coalition will no longer support Shohada Quartayn operations in southern Syria. Will continue supporting VSO fighting ISIS.

    Jake Godin‏Verified account @JakeGodin 3h3 hours ago

    Col. Dillon on Tanf and VSO access to Abu Kamal/MERV: "We believe there will be an opportunity to use them against ISIS in MERV."


    https://twitter.com/JakeGodin/status/890591579815256064

    Tan-if is useless to use now that we cannot advance along the border anymore, we have been trying to pull them out of there for weeks at this point the ones who wanan stay will die and the ones who wanna leave will join us up here.
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    Post  JohninMK Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:55 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Videos of Coalition spokesman in press conference at link.


    Ian Grant‏ @Gjoene 4h4 hours ago
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    Rumor goes #US wants to abandon #Tanf base and ship everything to #Shahadi front (where #SDF resides) to fight #ISIS

    Jake Godin‏Verified account @JakeGodin

    Col. Dilon says coalition will no longer support Shohada Quartayn operations in southern Syria. Will continue supporting VSO fighting ISIS.

    Jake Godin‏Verified account @JakeGodin 3h3 hours ago

    Col. Dillon on Tanf and VSO access to Abu Kamal/MERV: "We believe there will be an opportunity to use them against ISIS in MERV."


    https://twitter.com/JakeGodin/status/890591579815256064

    Tan-if is useless to use now that we cannot advance along the border anymore, we have been trying to pull them out of there for weeks at this point the ones who wanan stay will die and the ones who wanna leave will join us up here.
    That's basically what the Colonel said. The only question left unanswered was how they were going to get up NE when he said they couldn't go by truck through Regime lines. It was left open but assume it would be by air or the long way round thro' Iraq. He did say that many down there were actually from the Euphrates valley.

    Whilst those in the know know the rest of us can only surmise but now the CIA operation could well be winding down, note the caution there, many snippets of information are starting to appear that seem to point to what was surmised was actually underestimates. That's a big operation with legs everywhere that's going to be wound down, perhaps.
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    Post  d_taddei2 Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:47 am

    Good news about Lebanon/syrian border offensive and the last areas containing scum is now underway I expect the same time frame 1 week to secure these last areas. Although no numbers given about number of terrorists being transferred to Idilib and to al dumayr. But more importantly the number of SAA that this free up. I expect the the SAA will now help target the last areas before being deployed elsewhere. Much needed troops will be free soon and border secured. This was obviously a clear sign that the SAA are now looking for manpower after suffering causalities against ISIS etc in last couple of weeks. This area could have been taken a long time ago but wasn't a priority in til manpower and expanding areas to cover and protect started to become a problem. But I still think Beit Jinn won't be long in til this is targeted there was an article about 2 weeks ago that SAA where still interested in liberating it. Also once ISIS collapses in Deir what will happen to ISIS in yamouk area of damascus they can't exactly do a transfer deal then as where do you send them? Maybe only option for them is to transfer them to Idilib and they change group to hts or other group. I believe there is around 4000 ISIS left in this area.

    https://mobile.almasdarnews.com/article/details-arsal-agreement-hezbollah-jihadist-rebels/

    https://mobile.almasdarnews.com/article/lebanese-army-attacks-isils-positions-amid-near-syrian-border-reinforcements-pour/
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    Post  Benya Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:15 am

    SYRIAN ARMY AND TRIBAL FORCES PUSH TO STRATEGIC BISHRI TRIANGLE IN SOUTHERN RAQQAH (MAPS)

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    In the province of Raqqah, the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) Tiger Forces and tribal forces liberated the Wadi ‘Ubayd oil-field and further advanced in the direction of the so-called Bishri Triangle in order to get control over this important logistical site. Clashes near Subkah and Ghanim Ali are also ongoing.

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    Post  calm Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:52 am

    Hezbollah literally overruned those AQ forces on border...



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    Post  calm Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:35 pm

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    Post  par far Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:52 pm

    "THE US HAS OFFICIALLY LOST THE WAR IN SYRIA: REPORT."

    "In other words, the Century Foundation makes some insightful points but doesn’t touch on the fact that the Pentagon backs groups in Syria that pose an equal threat to the Syrian state and is still continuing to back these groups quite heavily. The report doesn’t touch on the fact that, although it is common knowledge that the U.S. is partnering with the Kurds, the Trump administration is actually attempting to give the Kurds as much Syrian territory as possible, conveniently taking Syria’s most oil-rich region in the process. This would take the region directly out of the hands of the Syrian government, which retains an isolated military outpost there.

    What happens if the Syrian government decides it doesn’t want the American-backed Kurds to take their most oil-rich city? Will regime change be back on the agenda?."


    Russia, Syria and Allies need to hurry the fuck up and grab Deir ez-Zor and the surroundings areas.




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    "US support of various Al Qaida affiliates and phantom FSA kept parts of Sunni Arab Syrian population at odds with Alawite-led but in essence secular and nationalist government. Iranian support for Assad helped US and Wahabi ideologues market the war as a part of broader Sunni-Shia conflict. Subtract Sunni extremists and FSA "revolutionaries" from the Syrian equation and replace them with Kurds. Give those Kurds 1/3 of Syria inhabited by 80% Arab population - what do you get?! Straight forward Arab vs. Kurd shitshow. You'll have Syrian Muslim Brothers forgetting how much they hate Alawites in general and Assad family in particular volunteering to go and die in an anti-Kurd jihad - after all virgin is a virgin no matter who did you die fighting. It may yet be a perfect way to mend the fences in Syria and get Syrians to rally under the flag of Syrian nationalism again. At the expense of Kurds, of course, that will once again gamble away a chance to better their political and national position in the region. Well done USA - not even Putin could've done better..."

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    "There was never anything for the US to 'win' in Syria. While there was some benefits to the US for replacing Assad with a US puppet, the REAL objective was always Iran. The US simply needed a destabilized, weak and/or partitioned Syria before it can start executing plans for a war with Iran. In that sense, 'mission accomplished' for the US in Syria. This was the exact same scheme used in Iraq. The US 'won' nothing, but it did succeed in dividing the country, weakening it militarily and driving it into chaos for decades.

    Now the focus of my US leaders will be to provoke Iran, demonize its leaders and create false flags leading to war. Again, there is no intent to conquer Iran. The US seeks to destabilize, weaken and partition it. It does not take a mass military attack/invasion to do that, so debating the success of WW II battle tactics or weapons superiority is useless.

    Israel is the real winner in Syria.

    Israel wanted to make sure Syria could never prevent or retaliate against an Israeli nuclear strike on them. At the same time, Israel wanted to make sure they could punish Syria whenever they wanted by conventional airstrikes. In addition, Israel did not want Iran to have any intelligence and surveillance capability over Israel. The Syrian air defense and electronic surveillance line on hills along the Golan border had to be destroyed and (if possible) the land taken from Syria. They're still working on the land-theft part, but the entire line of defense sites were destroyed. In that sense, Israel won.

    Hezbollah is battle-hardened and better equipped, but Israel will always have their US lapdogs on call for a Hezbollah attack. Hezbollah is much stronger, but not strong enough to take on Israel and the US simultaneously.

    In addition, Israel is well-entrenched in the Kurdish PYD party and their Asayish police force. Israel doesn't care about cannon-fodder YPG/YPJ. The Kurd's PYD party are Kurdish Bolsheviks - that's how Israel will control the Syrian Kurds and have permanent access to the stolen Syrian land and resources."


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    I agree in essence with your analysis with one exception. The whole thing was not initiated by US - it was always Zionist operation. If US just wanted to lessen Iranian influence in Syria, to a degree , they could have worked with Assad. He wanted to implement economic and limited political reforms, liberalize the country - as much as it's possible to do in a Muslim country in the ME. He was hopeing to get Western support and infact was greeted as big Arab hope in EU. Only thing he needed in return was to get the Golan back - something that old man Hafez never managed to do. Small price to pay for the US and a thing that would've made Bashar "a savior of the Motherland and Islam" and get him enough leverage at home and among Arabs to negotiate a comprehensive peace settlement with Israel. Unfortunately Israel wants security, all the land it acquired illegally and more land if possible. Hillary summed it all up best in one of her e-mails - Bringing down Assad would not only be a massive boon to Israel’s security, it would also ease Israel’s understandable fear of losing its nuclear monopoly.- Now we all know that Iran was nowhere near getting a nuke - it was all fake Israeli intel and Bibi's infamous UN bomb cartoon. But even if it was about Iranian nukes - Iran is upholding it's side of the deal for a year now and US/Zionists still want to destroy Syria. Nothing to do with Iran - everything to do with real estate...

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:10 pm

    A couple of days ago in the al-Tanf area. The Americans were not amused!

    Putintin‏ @putintintin1 12h12 hours ago

    #Syria US-backed Maghawir al-Thawra commander called"Abu Housse"defected to regime&stole several weapons&machine guns

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    he stole 1 pick-up truck, 3 heavy machine guns 12-16 rifles and fled with 10 fighters to regime-held areas in south east #Syria

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    Post  par far Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:58 pm

    The Kurds are US proxies and propaganda mouth pieces.



    “What happened in Aleppo at the end of last year, Russian-Iranian differences broke out after controlling the city, and even security officers from inside the regime split between standing with Iran or standing with Russia, and these differences are still going on until this moment,” the Kurdish official said.

    This never happened you asshole.

    https://southfront.org/kurdish-security-fources-commander-irans-project-syria-region-dangerous-isis/


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