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    Post  eehnie Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:16 pm

    If I'm not wrong the Russian Armed Forces do its own tests before to adopt a new design of material. First own tests in the factory, later tests of the Russian Armed Forces in order to adopt the weapon or not. This would be roughly the habitual procedure, and this vehicle seems to enter in the stage of testing with the Russian Armed Forces. But not totally clear even in the traslation.

    https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=es&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fbmpd.livejournal.com%2F2991916.html

    This is the main part of the article that seems to be a report of the company, not of the Ministery of Defense:

    Armored vehicles K-53949 are designed to solve the problems of comprehensive provision of combined arms and special units, including peacekeeping forces, under various conditions. Can be used to transport personnel and cargo. The car has high combat and operational characteristics, high controllability, speed of movement and permeability to all types of roads. The multi-purpose armored car has protection against small arms and explosive devices. The platform of the vehicle is a universal base for the installation of various superstructures of security, reconnaissance, and fire support.

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    Post  GarryB Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:01 am

    The Factory tests are to ensure the vehicle is properly designed and assembled and that everything works to specification before being handed over the to customer.

    Of course when it is handed over the military needs to test it to make sure it does everything they specified for it to be able to do.

    After those tests they then need to put it into an operational unit to develop a training and operations manual for using the vehicle and a maintainence manual on how to look after the vehicle.

    Often a pilot batch are made for larger scale testing with normal troops... any problems found and they are sent back to the factory for fixes.

    The end result is a new vehicle in service.
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    Post  eehnie Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:09 pm

    If Im not wrong, the tests of the Russian Armed Forces are serious, difficult to pass, and some material fails. One example of it would be just the first edition of the Typhoon 4x4, that returned to the factory.

    Under the modern testing standards of the Russian Armed Forces, this kind of small semiarmoured vehicles tend to have problems to meet the requiremens for safety of the crew in contested environments, but can work for roles of auxilary vehicle (utiity, trasport,...) outside of the frontline. But even in this case, Russia can not select all the alternatives, and only seletcs very few, in order to keep some degree of standardization. There is high competence, I will try to collect all the recent alternatives in one comment.
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    Post  GarryB Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:28 am

    Because of the different operating environments they have to have some flexibility too of course.

    The BMP was accepted as the standard IFV troop transport for example, but in some areas they were too heavy and their tracks were too narrow to operate in very deep snow or very deep mud.

    The solution was that some units used the lighter MTLB series of vehicles in the role with much lighter armament and armour, but with good mobility in bad conditions.

    When it is a new vehicle I doubt they have an idea of exactly what they want so when they offer up their specs for the new vehicle and a few companies put forward prototypes and they have a play with them they can then decide on what features are really useful and some that sound good but are not that useful in practise.

    An excellent example of this was early on in tank development with their BT series light tanks they had the feature of being able to run without tracks on wheels.

    In theory it sounds useful but in practise it was almost never used so that feature was removed and the design made simpler and cheaper.

    Once they have decided on a vehicle they then finalise or optimise their specs and get a testing batch made that are then tested and results put back into design changes for the serial production vehicle design.

    Then they make a batch for operational units to try out and use and also then they adapt the operations manual to allow for the new capabilities and features and the maintainence manual to support the vehicles.

    After that testing is done any changes needed are made and mass production can start.... during production changes and upgrades can be made to improve features or to just make the vehicle cheaper and easier to make.
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    Post  George1 Wed May 16, 2018 9:37 pm

    Army tests of the armored car K-53949 "Typhoon"


    As reported by the press service of the Southern Military District on May 16, 2018, the newest armored car KamAZ-53949 [K-53949] "Typhoon", which was recently demonstrated at the military parade in Moscow, joined the special forces of the Southern Military District (SW).

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    "Typhoon" has smaller dimensions in comparison with the existing technology ("Typhoon-K") and other characteristics. Inside its armored body are ten seats for the crew and the landing: four (including the commander's and driver's seats) are located face forward in the course of the movement, the remaining six are placed in the aft amphibious compartment, at the sides. The payload of the machine is 2 tons.

    Already this week groups of special forces will begin to master the car, conduct exercises on extreme driving in the conditions of mountain-woody terrain and impassable roads at the combined-arms range and tankodrome.

    A new armored car can be used to solve various tasks. First of all, it is transportation of personnel or small cargo, as well as escorting convoys.

    In addition, after some re-equipment, the armored car can become a sanitary, reconnaissance, command-staff vehicle.

    The bmpd comment.
    Our blog already reported on the family of protected vehicles K-53949 ("Typhoon"), work on which began at the plant "Special Car Factory" JSC "Remdizel" (Naberezhnye Chelny) in 2012. Ideologically, the K-53949 is analogous to the well-known American mass armored vehicle Oshkosh M-ATV, although it has a large capacity.

    The equipped weight of the armored car K-53949 is 13 tons, full - 15 tons. The capacity is 10 people. The engine power is 350 hp, the top speed is 105 km / h.

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    Post  George1 Fri Aug 17, 2018 1:09 pm

    Typhoon К-63969 solid-body, 6x6 wheeled amphibious BTR (armored personnel carrier) with a remote-controlled gun. This vehicle is even more protected than the original К-63968 of which Russia has hundreds by now.
    К-63969 has an all-around steel+ceramic armor withstanding the 14,5 mm and 12,7 mm bullets (level 4, STANAG 4569). Mine-resistance = 3b. All family has the Russian YaMZ-530 unified engines by Yaroslavl Motor Plant. Special bulletproof glass with one of the highest level of transparency produced by the Russian company "Magistral".

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    Post  George1 Fri Aug 24, 2018 1:48 am

    The new version of the protected car "Ural-53099"

    As reported by "Rossiyskaya Gazeta" in the material of Alexei Brusilov, "New armored" Ural "was shown on the" Army-2018 ", a protected frame car with an armored single-volume body" Ural-53099 "became one of the novelties of the currently undergoing International Military Technical Forum" Army-2018 ".

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    A four-wheel drive two-axle car from Miass, according to the developers, can be used to mount various weapons, perform tasks on the battlefield and in the rear.

    The all-welded body consists of a control compartment for two fighters with two side doors, as well as a six-seater compartment with two side swing doors and one door, located behind.

    To create a comfortable environment for the crew of the car and passengers installed heater and air conditioning. When operating in an infected area, a special filtering unit is used.

    With its own weight of 14500 kg, the car can carry up to 2,000 kg of cargo and tow a five-ton trailer.

    he car has a hydraulic winch, which has a pulling force of 8000 kg. Fuel tanks with a total capacity of 320 liters have an anti-bullet polyurethane coating, which eliminates the possibility of leakage and fire.

    The four-stroke diesel engine of the armored car with gas turbine supercharging has a capacity of 312 hp. The maximum speed along the highway can reach 100 km / h. Power reserve - 1000 km.

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    A protected frame car with an armored single-volume body "Ural-53099" in the exposition of the International Military Technical Forum "Army-2018" (с) Alexey Brusilov / rg.ru

    On the bmpd side, we note that the appearance of the final sample of the protected car "Ural-53099" ("Typhoon-U" 4x4) presented at the "Army-2018" has significantly changed in relation to the previously demonstrated JSC "Automobile Plant" Ural "under the same designation of the model sample.

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    Post  eehnie Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:39 am

    The options of the Typhoon-K 6x6 and the Typhoon-U 6x6 procured (Kamaz-63968 and Ural-63095) have bigger capacity of military personel thatn the options procured not (Kamaz-63969 and Ural-63099).

    http://roe.ru/eng/catalog/land-forces/armored-vehicles/kamaz-63969/

    All them very interesting modern options, fairly better than the BTR-80 family of infantry vehicles, now retired to export.
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    Post  Regular Sun Sep 23, 2018 1:41 am

    eehnie wrote:The options of the Typhoon-K 6x6 and the Typhoon-U 6x6 procured (Kamaz-63968 and Ural-63095) have bigger capacity of military personel thatn the options procured not (Kamaz-63969 and Ural-63099).

    http://roe.ru/eng/catalog/land-forces/armored-vehicles/kamaz-63969/

    All them very interesting modern options, fairly better than the BTR-80 family of infantry vehicles, now retired to export.

    Russia is still purchasing BTR-80 family. Even downgraded one for Rosgvardiya.
    Ok, I've seen the tests of Kamaz-63969. Looks very ergonomic and simple as it's built on a truck chasis. Wouldn't cause logistical nightmare. Looks much better for Rosgvardiya and it would leave Boomerang APC for military.
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    Post  George1 Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:46 am

    K-53949 "Typhoon" on military trials in Tuva

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    Post  Cyberspec Sat Jun 22, 2019 4:53 am

    2S41 "Drok" - 82mm SP mortar
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    Post  Cyberspec Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:45 am

    Typhoon-K with mine clearing attachment
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    Post  George1 Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:23 pm

    Protected car K-4386-Air defense "Typhoon-Air defense" in China


    During the international competition "Clear Sky-2019", the Russian servicemen will, for the first time, perform the newest armored vehicles "Typhoon-Air Defense" within the framework of Army International Games - 2019 in China," the message reads. The Defense Ministry noted that two Typhoons, delivered to China by military transport aircraft, are already involved in the first training of Russian anti-aircraft gunners.

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    Post  Austin Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:55 am

    Russian Wheeled MRAP Vehicles


    Andrey Frolov

    https://mdb.cast.ru/mdb/1-2019/item2/article2/


    For many years, the BTR family of APCs (BTR-40, BTR- 152, and BTR-60/70/80) and BRDM-1/2 amphibious armored patrol cars were the main Soviet and Russian offering in the market for wheeled armored vehicles. They had many advantages, including simplicity and low price – but by the early 1990s it had become clear that they no longer met modern requirements. Besides, following the break-up of the Soviet Union, the market was flooded by the surplus hardware being sold off by the newly-independent former Soviet states. A few years later, Ukraine began to offer refurbishment and upgrade options for the BTR-80, before launching production of its own version of that APC. The Ukrainians then developed the BTR-4, a next-generation APC of their own design, although the vehicle was plagued by poor manufacturing quality.

    Meanwhile, the conflicts in Afghanistan (2001) and Iraq (2003) highlighted a pressing need for next-generation wheeled armor, forcing the West – the United States included – to place large and urgent orders for various mine-resistant (MRAP) vehicles, from the relatively light Iveco LMV to the heavy Oshkosh M-ATV. Their use in the field was deemed an overall success, spurring demand for such vehicles all over the world. In addition to purchasing finished hardware, some states launched local production programs under foreign license. For example, the Barys and Alan MRAP vehicles assembled in Kazakhstan were developed by South Africa’s Paramount Group.

    In Russia, the MRAP niche had for various reasons remained vacant for a very long time. Russian companies had developed such 4x4 vehicles as the GAZ-3937 Vodnik and the VPK-23114 Tigr-M, but they did not offer a sufficient level of protection and carrying capacity. The new BTR-90 APC never reached mass production. The VPK-7829 Bumerang standard wheeled platform is essentially a wheeled infantry fighting vehicle and has yet to complete trials. There are also various armored vehicles built on KAMAZ and URAL chassis, but they were not specially designed as MRAP hardware and their mine resistance is inadequate.

    As a result, the Russian Army’s first proper MRAP vehicle was the Rys, a version of Italy’s Iveco 65E19WM assembled in Russia from Italian components. A total of 358 vehicles were delivered before cooperation with the Italians ceased after Russia’s annexation of Crimea in 2014.

    There are no foreign MRAP vehicles being built in Russia at this time, but several indigenous Russian MRAP programs were nearing completion by the time the assembly of Iveco vehicles ground to a halt. There are only two Russian companies that have active programs in this field: the Ural Auto Plant, and Remdizel. The latter has already launched mass production of several families of such vehicles, and there are several versions within each family.

    The first to enter mass production was the K-63968 Typhoon-K, a 6x6 modular armored vehicle. Its development began in 2011, and tests of the first mobile prototypes commenced the following year. The MoD placed the first contract for 40 such vehicles in early 2013; another contract for over 100 vehicles followed before the year’s end. The Russian forces have used these vehicles for several years in Syria; to the best of our knowledge, there have been no export contracts.

    Almost simultaneously with the K-63968, Remdizel launched the K-63969 Typhoon-K model, which is a 6x6 wheeled, solid-body armored vehicle that offers the best level of protection of all Remdizel and other Russian MRAP models. There have been no open-source reports of any domestic or export contracts for these vehicles, but we are aware of interest expressed by some of the Russian MoD branches.

    There is also the K-4386 Typhoon-VDV (Rosomakha), a 4x4 frameless wheeled one-box armored vehicle, which has yet to enter mass production. The first prototype batch of these vehicles is expected to complete trials later this year. The K-4386 chassis may be used for a whole range of special vehicles, such as the 2S41 Drok self-propelled 82mm mortar (the Nabrosok-Drok-KSh R&D program) and the Typhoon-PVO personnel carriers for Igla and Verba MANPAD crews (early prototypes were unveiled in May 2019).

    Finally, there is the K-53949 Typhoon-K, a 4x4 vehicle that will probably become the main Russian MRAP model. Despite its lower curb weight, it offers the same level of protection as the heavier K-63968.

    The first prototype of that vehicle was designed at the company’s own initiative in 2015. The model has already completed preliminary trials at Remdizel. Substantial changes have been made to the early design: the first three prototypes were equipped with a hydropneumatic suspension and an automatic gearbox, but it was then decided to revert to a spring suspension and a mechanical gearbox.

    In late 2017, the MoD took delivery of the first 10 mass-produced vehicles. In August 2018, it signed a contract for another 59.

    Even though deliveries of MRAP vehicles to the Russian forces commenced only recently, they have already seen real combat. At least one unit of the K-53949 Typhoon-K and one K-4386 Typhoon-VDV were deployed to Syria in 2018. Both were spotted in that country in February.1 The K-53949 is equipped with an RP-377VM1 electronic jamming system.2 It was seen near Douma (Eastern Ghouta) immediately after the city’s recapture by the Syrian Army. The vehicle was probably one of the 10 K-53949s delivered to the Russian forces in December 2017. The K-4386 Typhoon-VDV, which has yet to complete trials, was spotted in the Tartus area, probably as part of its trials program with the Russian forces. It was the only new-generation Russian MRAP vehicle in Syria equipped with a 30mm gun.3

    The K-53949 design is also used in the AS-Linza tactical-tier medical vehicle. The vehicle’s curb weight is 15 tonnes, and it offers the same level of protection as the K-63968. It is equipped with a Class 1 or Class 2 medical bay. The first prototype was assembled in 2017, and the first Russian MoD contract for 27 vehicles was signed in 2018, for delivery in 2018-2020.

    In 2018, the K-53949 chassis was also used to develop a new platform for the Kornet-D anti-tank missile system, equipped with eight guided missiles. Previously, that system was mounted on VPK-233116 Tigr-M chassis.4 Shortly before that, it was reported that the same chassis was used to develop the Strela tank-fire control vehicle.5

    The K-53949 was the first Russian MRAP vehicle delivered to foreign customers. In 2016, Remdizel signed a K-53949 promotion agreement with the Russian arms export intermediary Rosoboronexport. In 2017, the vehicle was demonstrated at the IDEX 2017 arms expo in the UAE. The first export delivery was made to Uzbekistan in May 2019.6 As far as we can tell, some of the assembly operations are handled in Uzbekistan itself, which is a new development for Russian army hardware exports. Based on that information, we can also surmise that the Uzbek contract is for at least several dozen vehicles.

    To summarize, it is safe to assert that the Russian school of MRAP vehicles design has come into its own. Several models have entered mass production and even seen real combat. As a result, some of them have already won foreign customers as we are aware of at least one export contract for the K-53949. Given the healthy global demand for 4x4 wheeled MRAP vehicles, more export contracts are sure to follow.






    https://twitter.com/vezhlivo/status/986541920544612352

    https://twitter.com/AndreZykov/status/986224314847506432

    For more details, see: Frolov A. New Russian MRAP Vehicles in Syria // Moscow Defense Brief, 2018, #3

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3312525.html.

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/2822210.html.

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    Post  Isos Thu Nov 14, 2019 2:47 pm

    https://mobile.twitter.com/I30mki/status/1194596526141526017

    Boomerang destroyed during firing tests (firing at the vehicle).

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    Post  Big_Gazza Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:23 pm

    Not boomerang, its a KAMAZ-63969 Typhoon
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    Post  Isos Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:22 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:Not boomerang, its a KAMAZ-63969 Typhoon

    My bad. I was confused by the tittle of the wrong thread were I posted it. Someone moved it here.
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    Post  George1 Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:33 pm

    Isos wrote:Someone moved it here.

    George1-24 hours per day surveillance..
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    Post  GarryB Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:02 am

    And a good job too... not said often enough to George1... Smile
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    Post  Regular Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:49 am

    Isos wrote:
    Big_Gazza wrote:Not boomerang, its a KAMAZ-63969 Typhoon

    My bad. I was confused by the tittle of the wrong thread were I posted it. Someone moved it here.

    Also, it's two type of Kamaz trucks. Both of them survived rhe tests.
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    Post  flamming_python Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:14 am

    Interesting vid of the Typhoon-VDV 4x4, lots of details



    And this video shows off the chassis used as the basis for an AT vehicle with Kornet ATGMs, as well as the Linza medevac vehicle which I don't think we've seen the inside of before

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    Recon Taifun-K

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