TR1 wrote:Let's compare two thing:
Iraq War- HUGE anti-war protests in big American cities. Go on freely.
Ukraine- some Russians gather to protest against it in Moscow, promptly arrested.
Seriously, fuck our current government.
Yep but that's actually what I mean
In the US anti-war demos are permitted, but cynically ignored. In London back when I was living there, we had the biggest one of all in 2003. Over a million people, including many all over the country. 1/6th of the population of London at the time.
All these approval ratings, etc... they don't mean squat to Western political leaders. On the issues that they're determined to go through with, they go through with. Their ratings can be as low as 30%, 20% - they still carry right on. In France, by far the biggest protests it has experienced for decades was the outrage over the new law they instituted for gay marriage (in reality the protestors were more worried about giving lesbian couples artificial seminitation rights) or what was it. Hundreds of thousands marched in Paris. Result? Not a single compromise, dialogue, debate, nothing.
Putin does what he wants too, but only if he knows the population will support him.
He does stop to crash the anti-war demo on his way there though; just for the hell of it, old habits and so on.
Honestly I'm not sure what is worse; crushing the anti-war protests off-hand, or letting them continue but simply pretending they don't exist.
Another example; control of the TV media. What I mean about blatant vs. subtle. In Russia they are just owned by the state. In America, they are owned by oligarchs, who are affiliated to one of two political parties, and these channels are subordinated to the political elite of the country overall.