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kvs wrote:This war is the only thing that the Kiev regime has. Ukraine's economy is collapsing and discontent is growing. Faking up
some unity over the big war with Russia seems to be enough dope to keep the Banderastani rabble distracted.
LPR People’s Militia repels yet another Ukrainian army’s breakthrough attempt
The Ukrainian army was thrown back after yet another breakthrough attempt in the area of Zhelobok, a source in the Lugansk People’s Republic People’s Militia informed a Rossa Primavera News Agency reporter on June 7.
At 4 p.m. local time, the Ukrainian army attempted a break through, but lost 10 soldiers and retreated. The village of Zhelobok is under LPR People’s Militia control. As of today, no military actions are being conducted.
On June 7, LPR Ministry of Emergency Situations (MES) and LPR People’s Militia servicemen started preparing evacuation of children from Kirovsk city area, which is being shelled by the Ukrainian military, LPR People’s Militia officer Andrey Marochko informed TASS journalists.
According to Marochko, “At the moment Ministry of Emergency Situations (MES) of LPR with the support of Kirovsk city administration started preparing evacuation of children from Golubovskoe, Berezovskoe, and Donetsky, situated in close vicinity to active war zone”.
Deputy Head of Administration of the Republic, Oleg Chernousov noted that local authorities must provide assistance to Kirovsk district residents to repair the damage inflicted by the Ukrainian army’s shelling. “We’d like to express our support to all the people of the district. In this context I ask local authorities and bodies of executive power to do all that is possible to help people who got into difficult situation and in accordance with the appropriate procedures to restore infrastructure and life facilities,” said Chernousov.
Much damage was done to Kirovsk, Donetskiy, Stakhanov, Frunze, and also the village of Zhelobokduring the attempted breakthrough and shelling by the Ukrainian army with 120mm caliber guns . According to LPR People’s Militia information, the enemy attacked from villages of Novotoshkovskoye and Krimskoye at 6.20 a.m. The attackers fired 152mm and 122mm guns and infantry fighting vehicles. 27 buildings were destroyed, and one civilian was killed. Later, at 9.10 a.m. two Ukrainian army’s platoons started moving towards the village of Zhelobok where they were stopped by the People’s Militia . People’s Militia also shot down a drone, which was adjusting the Ukrainian army’s artillery fire.
Source: Rossa Primavera News Agency
miketheterrible wrote:Doesn't look like Ukies are holding onto Zhelobok. Apparently LNR held onto it as contrary to Ukie media stated.
miketheterrible wrote:Wasn't that hill part of the grey zone? Since NAF didn't hold it, it will be hard to dislodge the Ukies from it
Kiev Accuses Donbass Militia of Violating Ceasefire 67 Times Over Past 24 Hours
https://sputniknews.com/europe/201706121054540879-kiev-violation-ceasefire-donbass/
kvs wrote:I am a bit confused. Kiev regime forces set up shop on the outskirts of cities and shell residential areas. But it seems that they are rarely counter-shelled. Maybe I am wrong about counter-shelling.
Ispan wrote:kvs wrote:I am a bit confused. Kiev regime forces set up shop on the outskirts of cities and shell residential areas. But it seems that they are rarely counter-shelled. Maybe I am wrong about counter-shelling.
Regardless of the complaints of frontline fighters and the pretense from the command that the Novorussians are observing the ceasefire, when the attacks are hard enough, the Novorussian artillery and mortars do fire back. Frontline reports artillery duels daily. The counterbattery is quite effective, and the dozens of wounded that arrived everyday at Ukrainian hospitals throughout last year, and no doubt also during this year, are testament that the ukrops are being hit hard.
Kremlin wants desperately to keep the war frozen, or at least stabilized until next year, once Putin is reelected and ideally after the football world cup.
Russia priorities are to gain time for rearmament, and finish the war on Syria before settling scores with Ukraine.
JohninMK wrote:A long article on the demise of the steel industry in Ukraine. Is this really unintentional or is it part of a long term strategy by the EU to kill a competitor?
Ukraine's once-proud metallurgical industry, previously accounting for 10-13% of the country's GDP, and providing up to 40% of the country's export earnings, is facing a severe crisis. The latest figures show that the production of steel, rolled metal and iron were down 18-22% in the first five months of 2017.
According to stats published by Ukrmetallurgprom, a Ukrainian association of metallurgical plants, steel production fell by 18%, to 8.7 million metric tonsbetween January and May 2017, year on year. In the same period, output of rolled metal products dropped 20%, to 7.46 million tons, while iron production fell 22% to 7.92 million tons. Coking coal production also fell 25%, to 4.18 million tons, indicating a major drop in producer demand.
Throughout the 1990s and into the early 2010s, Ukraine enjoyed the status of a major steel-producing power. Responsible for about a third of Soviet steel production in 1990 (when the USSR was ranked number one in global steel output), Ukraine ranked fifth in the world in steel output immediately following independence in 1992. A quarter of a century later, the country faces the prospect of dropping out of the top ten producers.
https://sputniknews.com/europe/201706131054586617-ukraine-steel-production-drop/
Cowboy's daughter wrote:JohninMK wrote:A long article on the demise of the steel industry in Ukraine. Is this really unintentional or is it part of a long term strategy by the EU to kill a competitor?
Ukraine's once-proud metallurgical industry, previously accounting for 10-13% of the country's GDP, and providing up to 40% of the country's export earnings, is facing a severe crisis. The latest figures show that the production of steel, rolled metal and iron were down 18-22% in the first five months of 2017.
According to stats published by Ukrmetallurgprom, a Ukrainian association of metallurgical plants, steel production fell by 18%, to 8.7 million metric tonsbetween January and May 2017, year on year. In the same period, output of rolled metal products dropped 20%, to 7.46 million tons, while iron production fell 22% to 7.92 million tons. Coking coal production also fell 25%, to 4.18 million tons, indicating a major drop in producer demand.
Throughout the 1990s and into the early 2010s, Ukraine enjoyed the status of a major steel-producing power. Responsible for about a third of Soviet steel production in 1990 (when the USSR was ranked number one in global steel output), Ukraine ranked fifth in the world in steel output immediately following independence in 1992. A quarter of a century later, the country faces the prospect of dropping out of the top ten producers.
https://sputniknews.com/europe/201706131054586617-ukraine-steel-production-drop/
I'd say if steel production was a State enterprise, then the EU probably couldn't care less about it failing.
I'm curious, how is the privatization of industries going?
miketheterrible wrote:It is all a fire sale. In the end, Ukraine will only be an agricultural economy with nothing else while Russia will have a competing agricultural economy mixed in with heavy industrial and high tech.
And the fire sale is getting everyone worried in Ukraine as the IMF put it as a prerequisites in order to get the next following loans.
Don't you find that funny? In order to get a loan that you have to pay back, you have to undersell your assets to foreigners. That is loanshark mentality and yet it is an international legal body.
eehnie wrote:miketheterrible wrote:It is all a fire sale. In the end, Ukraine will only be an agricultural economy with nothing else while Russia will have a competing agricultural economy mixed in with heavy industrial and high tech.
And the fire sale is getting everyone worried in Ukraine as the IMF put it as a prerequisites in order to get the next following loans.
Don't you find that funny? In order to get a loan that you have to pay back, you have to undersell your assets to foreigners. That is loanshark mentality and yet it is an international legal body.
It is a policy of country predation for the benefit of the American olygarchy.
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