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    The Situation in the Ukraine. #26

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    Post  auslander Sat Feb 25, 2017 4:08 pm

    Reports are the orcs have taken the Donetsk water purification plant near Avdeyevka. Apparently it was close to the lines. Attack was between 00:01 and dawn this morning. They've already set up mortars and arty around the plant and shooting like mad.
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    Post  franco Sat Feb 25, 2017 4:25 pm

    auslander wrote:Reports are the orcs have taken the Donetsk water purification plant near Avdeyevka. Apparently it was close to the lines. Attack was between 00:01 and dawn this morning. They've already set up mortars and arty around the plant and shooting like mad.

    Reading that it was in the disengagement zone and not defended. Can't see it being allowed to stay present status. Apparently the new plan from the fascist groups is to starve novorossiya out, even if it destroys themselves.
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    Post  auslander Sat Feb 25, 2017 4:27 pm

    Agreed. It was DNR who constantly repaired it after the almost daily orc shelling. So far no one has said a word beyond DNR, IOW OSCE et al are silent, ergo they are in on the plot and plan.
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    Post  Project Canada Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:10 pm

    So little  by little the Ukrops are allowed to take territories, cant wait for the day the entire  Ukropistan collapses and incorporated back to Russia as Novorossiya
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    Post  Karl Haushofer Sun Feb 26, 2017 12:19 am

    auslander wrote:Reports are the orcs have taken the Donetsk water purification plant near Avdeyevka. Apparently it was close to the lines. Attack was between 00:01 and dawn this morning. They've already set up mortars and arty around the plant and shooting like mad.
    Russia weak.
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    Post  franco Sun Feb 26, 2017 2:13 pm

    NAF say they are back in control of the Water treatment plant;

    http://stalkerzone.org/dpr-announced-liberation-radicals-donetsk-filtration-station/

    I read at one point yesterday there was an emergency video conference between the THREE promoting parties to the Minsk agreement. That should have been interesting. No Ukrainians invited and would imagine Lavrov or Putin said to the French and the Germans, "You got 24 hours to get your puppets out of there or we give the NAF a green light to move... with air support if necessary"

    Alas one can only dream Rolling Eyes

    EDIT: in case you missed it in the article, Kiev ordered it's own people to withdrawal.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Feb 26, 2017 5:49 pm

    franco wrote:NAF say they are back in control of the Water treatment plant;

    http://stalkerzone.org/dpr-announced-liberation-radicals-donetsk-filtration-station/

    I read at one point yesterday there was an emergency video conference between the THREE promoting parties to the Minsk agreement. That should have been interesting. No Ukrainians invited and would imagine Lavrov or Putin said to the French and the Germans, "You got 24 hours to get your puppets out of there or we give the NAF a green light to move... with air support if necessary"

    Alas one can only dream Rolling Eyes

    EDIT: in case you missed it in the article, Kiev ordered it's own people to withdrawal.

    Hopefully one day someone will publish recordings or transcripts. For scientific purposes... Cool
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    Post  kvs Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:21 pm

    franco wrote:NAF say they are back in control of the Water treatment plant;

    http://stalkerzone.org/dpr-announced-liberation-radicals-donetsk-filtration-station/

    I read at one point yesterday there was an emergency video conference between the THREE promoting parties to the Minsk agreement. That should have been interesting. No Ukrainians invited and would imagine Lavrov or Putin said to the French and the Germans, "You got 24 hours to get your puppets out of there or we give the NAF a green light to move... with air support if necessary"

    Alas one can only dream Rolling Eyes

    EDIT: in case you missed it in the article, Kiev ordered it's own people to withdrawal.

    You do not have to dream. Russian military officials pretty much stated already that Kiev does not have uncontrolled
    latitude of action and that Russia will intervene much more resolutely than in the past. They will still act through
    the Donbass rebels, but the level of involvement will be much higher. This was a clear message to NATzO and
    its puppets in Kiev to not get too cocky. So the scenario you paint is likely to have been exactly what transpired.
    I don't buy for a moment that these dogs were reined in by their own.
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    Post  auslander Mon Feb 27, 2017 7:32 pm

    It is my understanding that DNR/LNR has instituted a blockade against Ukraine and will not sell them coal amongst other items. The coal trains are now heading east, not west. Both the heating plants and electric plants in orc heaven that are coal fired, and that's most of them, are specifically designed for Donetsk coal. Nothing else will work within reason. Winter is not quite over yet and then we've got the problem of electric supply for the ordinary workers and peasants in orcland.

    LNR has officially instituted the Russian Ruble as their currency. Look for DNR to do the same and de facto for both republics this has been a fact of life since late '14. Now it's law.

    Of interest a week ago, and no one here picked up on it, Heug of OSCE got his crap shoved right up his nether regions in a live conference with Zakharchenko. Worth a listen:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsEpv8lOJVk

    In my opinion Russia, as one of the guarantors of the Minsk agreements and acting as per the Minsk Protocol, is beginning to institute and enforce the protocol.

    It is also my understanding that a few days ago when the orcs took the Donetsk Water Treatment Plant in the neutral zone they were told to GTFO or face the consequences, this suggestion supposedly did not emanate from DNR/LNR. Suddenly it seems that El Puerko in Kiev does, indeed, have control over his nazi units. They left rapidly and don't seem to have mined the facility.

    To quote a famous quote, the times they be interesting.
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    Post  medo Mon Feb 27, 2017 7:44 pm



    Novorussia (DNR and LNR) will on March 1st at 00:00 nationalize all Ukrainian enterprices on Novorussian territory.
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    Post  auslander Mon Feb 27, 2017 8:42 pm

    Ukropov are screwed. VVP is beginning to enforce the Minsk Agreements and nothing anyone west of the Don can do, its all in writing. Is there a deal between DC and Moskau? Who knows, I certainly don't.
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    Post  auslander Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:12 pm

    DNR today nationalized all of Akhmetov's business and industrial holdings. Perhaps tomorrow there will be more nationalizations involving others. According to available informations the goods produced for him will now go to a new market, probably just east of DNR.
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:36 pm

    How do they stop shooting themselves in the foot, or even can they?

    Tuesday, February 28, 2017 - 16:16

    Because of the Donbass blockade Ukraine is going to lose a half of the annual currency earnings and 75,000 people will become unemployed, reports the ‘Ukrmetallurgprom’ president Alexander Kalenkov at the Cabinet’s session.

    According to Kalenkov, the blockade will cause catastrophic consequences to the country.

    “Total blockade’s consequences for Ukraine, for the industry are $3,5 billion each year. It should be reminded that last year mining and metals sector decreased the currency receipts, but still contributed $6.5 billion. Can you imagine, it is a half of the currency earnings. We will lose 75,000 working places, the budget will lose about four billion dollars, the railway transportation activities’ decrease and so on. We're talking about catastrophic consequences for the Ukrainian economy.”


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    Post  auslander Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:36 pm

    They can't stop. Blockade by orcs doesn't matter now, Novorossiya has blockaded the orcs, the coal goes to Rostov now. 75,000 jobs lost? Double that if not more, each job lost costs minimum 2 in collateral damage and losses. 150,000 jobs lost in a population of about 35 million, if that, is catastrophic.

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    Post  KomissarBojanchev Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:45 am

    Ukrainian Thugs Vandalized the Monument of the Bulgarian Volunteers in Bolgrad, Bessarabia

    https://offnews.bg/news/Politika_8/VMRO-do-prezidenta-i-premiera-Zashtitete-balgarite-v-Ukrajna-ot-poseg_648501.html

    The monument was built in honor of the Bulgarian volunteers that fought in the Russo-Turkish war in the Russian army. Bessarabia has had a very sizeable Bulgarian population since the 18th century. Most Bessarabian Bulgarians are proRussian and have protested the Current Ukrop government  for their minority rights.  One I think was also killed in the Odessa massacre.
    Some Galician retards spray painted "suitcase, train station, to Sofia" on it.

    The Bulgarian nationalist party VMRO urges the president to condemn the Ukrainian government.

    Since this is a neoliberal site, most of the commentators are claiming that this is a communist(every not-antiRussian party in their eyes is communist) provocation by VMRO and that this incident is irrelevant. I've lost faith in my country when our Bessarabian brethren are more interested in standing up for their rights and protecting our culture than Bulgarian citizens.
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    Post  TheArmenian Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:28 am

    auslander wrote:DNR today nationalized all of Akhmetov's business and industrial holdings. Perhaps tomorrow there will be more nationalizations involving others. According to available informations the goods produced for him will now go to a new market, probably just east of DNR.

    The recognition by Russia of DNR and LNR documents and now this.
    The stage is being set for a full recognition of the republicsby Russia... When the right time comes of course.
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    Post  GarryB Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:03 am

    In Russias defence they have given Kiev every chance to do the right thing and they have failed... it is really Kiev that is dictating what is happening in the region so they can blame no one else but themselves when parts of the Ukraine vote to leave.

    If it is good enough for Kosovo then NATO should of course support the right of various regions to become separate entities... I believe at the time they said Kosovo was a unique case... of course every case is unique...

    They clearly still don't realise the effect of their own actions but now it is all playing out.

    It was new state status for Kosovo that led to Russia recognising the separate states of South Ossetia and Abkhazia... which led to their becoming stronger and independent of Georgia which of course led to the georgian invasion... but you will read nothing of this in western newspapers because that... like this case is all about Russian aggression to its neighbours. :rolleyes:
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    Post  Ispan Thu Mar 02, 2017 11:53 am

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    24 WIA UAF soldiers transported to #Odessa for treatment from #Avdiivka area - 2 heavily wounded
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    The regime imposed a blackout on news, but you cannot conceal all evidence. Two dozen wounded ferried to a distant hospital on the other side of the country is partial confirmation of casualties. Two days ago there were 2.300 combats and shellings, that would amount to two hundred casualties. The math does add up every time.
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    Post  JohninMK Sat Mar 04, 2017 11:45 am

    Could be good news

    The Committee on Appropriations of the House of Representatives of the US Congress has drafted a bill to cut US military aid to Ukraine to just $150 million, which is less than half of the $350 million Kiev received from Washington in 2016. Under the proposed bill, the Pentagon can spend funds “for training, equipment, weapons of a defensive nature, logistics, and intelligence.”

    In April 2016 Washington’s UN envoy Samantha Power said that a military solution to the crisis in eastern Ukraine would spell disaster for all. “A lot more people would suffer,” she warned.

    As a result, Kiev’s military had to make do with army pensioned off Army jeeps, night vision gear, bullet-proof jackets and military instructors.

    Still, during the closing months of his presidency, Barack Obama decided to build up US military assistance to Ukraine. “We will increase our military support for Ukraine,” Obama said during the July 2015 NATO summit in Poland.

    In January 2017, Ukrainian Foreign Minister Pavlo Klimkin stated the need for “more high-tech lethal defensive weapons” from the US.

    If the bill proposed by the Committee on Appropriations receives Congressional approval, it would dash Kiev’s hopes for a military solution to the conflict in Donbass.


    https://sputniknews.com/us/201703041051260997-us-ukraine-military/
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    Post  Big_Gazza Sun Mar 05, 2017 3:59 am

    GarryB wrote:In Russias defence they have given Kiev every chance to do the right thing and they have failed... it is really Kiev that is dictating what is happening in the region so they can blame no one else but themselves when parts of the Ukraine vote to leave.

    If it is good enough for Kosovo then NATO should of course support the right of various regions to become separate entities... I believe at the time they said Kosovo was a unique case... of course every case is unique...

    They clearly still don't realise the effect of their own actions but now it is all playing out.

    It was new state status for Kosovo that led to Russia recognising the separate states of South Ossetia and Abkhazia... which led to their becoming stronger and independent of Georgia which of course led to the georgian invasion... but you will read nothing of this in western newspapers because that... like this case is all about Russian aggression to its neighbours.  :rolleyes:

    Agree 100%.  Yankistani regime Bosses and their Eurotrash vassals issued absurd statements claiming that the illegal HATOstani severance of Kosovo from Serbia and its eventual handover to Albanian drug-mafia terrorists was NOT a precedance in international law, because it was a "unique" set of circumstances.  Its a classic case of Imperial Washington demanding that "lesser nations" do what the US says, not do what the US does, but it doesn't fool anyone, and the Russians certainly are not cowed into obeying Imperial diktat....

    Childish hubris has led these idiots to this situation.  Western power is crumbling as Russia and China rise (together), and the global power balance shifts inexorably to what will likely be a politically-aligned (if not unified) Eurasian continent that will adamantly refuse all domination attempts by a failing West. The Eurotrash 4th Reich strugges to avoid disintegration as her people rebel from the tyranny of unelected apparatchiks in Brussels, who doggedly refuse to abandon their madcap scheme to shove the distinctive European nations into a blender and render them down into a bland, homogenous and pacified market-space for neoliberal exploitation by private-capital interests. Uh'murikkka is paralysed by its inter-necine clan warfare as the Establishment and its Deep State structures toil to control (or destroy) an unwanted Cheif Executive who is neither a member of the elite ruling class, or a "safe pair of hands" who accepts the need for a continuation of "business-as-usual" global warmongering (the only way in this changing world to maintain US dominance).  The US wrestles with the ever-increasing consequences of their past dishonest behaviours, but hampers itself with a complete and total refusal to admit the moral bankruptcy of their increasingly psychopathic policies, and a near-religious adherence to puerile belief in "US exceptionalism".  Add to this the hardening economic realities that the basis of US power (ie petrodollar and the endless USD printing press and debt creation model) is inevitably running out of legs as the US economy refuses to grow at a decent clip, and US debt continues its inexorable growth, and the ongoing concerted efforts by other Powers to exit the dependance on the USD and strip Uncle Sham from the ability to print and sell endless paper "assets".

    The US and their Eurotrash colonies are facing the same kind of "perfect storm" that the USSR faced in the 80s, and like the communist nomenklatura and politburo authorities, they stubbornly refuse to read the writing on the wall.  Eventually, Gorbachev responded to the unyeilding reality and attempted an about-face (unsucessfully as it turned out) but at least the USSR unravelled peacefully without bloodshed.  When the systemic collapse can no longer be averted, will the US and EU manage the same, or will we witness the ghastly spectacle of a Neoliberal Capitalist world-order resorting to widespread brutality against their own publics and other nations in order to maintain their grip on power, wealth and priviledge? My understanding of the nature of Western Ruling Elite mindset gives me no reason to be hopeful in this respect....


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    Post  franco Sun Mar 05, 2017 4:01 am

    Dr Strangelove? Is that you? No

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2470699.html

    Unfreaking real!
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    Post  Big_Gazza Sun Mar 05, 2017 4:12 am

    franco wrote:Dr Strangelove? Is that you? No

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2470699.html

    Unfreaking real!

    Ukropi orc psychopathy on full display...  and the worst part is that in such an event, there wil no shortage of corrupt NWO politicians and MSM pressitute whores who will scream at the top of their lungs about "Russian war crimes".....

    When this is all over and Ukraine is liberated from their clutches, there needs to be a full reckoning with these filthy Ukropistani bastards.  They do not deserve a quick or merciful death...
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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Mar 05, 2017 4:18 am


    Can I get a quick rundown of the "master plan"?
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    Post  eehnie Sun Mar 05, 2017 4:45 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Can I get a quick rundown of the "master plan"?

    Lol, acting as a pure monolingual anglo. Not a surprise.

    You should read decently cyrillic beign Serbian, and understand something far easier than most here, but this is likely only a dress. Not a surprise.

    The article is only effect of the desperation and the hate to Russia.


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    Post  auslander Sun Mar 05, 2017 3:50 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Can I get a quick rundown of the "master plan"?

    Russia will invade.
    We will defeat Russia.

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