PLA Navy and Naval Air Force

UK had the same idea for the Malvinas war and didn't go well...

A cargo ship with a flat top so large helicopters can land is not really the same as a proper helicopter landing ship with 5 times more helicopters and two naval infantry brigades and their armour and four landing ships on board...

Clear picture of the modified PLAN sovremenny. Looks like the engines are working good. No black smoke there..

Troll.

The only Sovs with smoke problems suffer from attention via Photoshop and western trolls like you...

Anyone has a picture of the hangar ? Does that class has one ?

Btw there is a video of one going under a bridge in the baltic sea, it repainted the bridge in black with its smoke so yeah that ship smkes a lot.

Troll on your self. I have no western agenda. If anything a very east intrest. If anyone should be called a troll its you..a Russian one. Suspect

The question was raised earlier if the engines had been updated during the modification of the ships in the class, thats why I posted the picture.

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By you even it seems....

"A good idea to keep the guns... they will be very useful supporting landings and with new technology in guided shells they could become rather versatile weapons... if they choose to buy of develop something similar themselves.

Have heard they had issues with the propulsion... hope that is sorted out too."

Btw there is a video of one going under a bridge in the baltic sea, it repainted the bridge in black with its smoke so yeah that ship smkes a lot.

Smoke coming out of the smoke stack is not an engine problem, and all ship engines smoke from time to time.

There were problems with the Sovs engines in terms of reliability and maintenance issues as well, but nothing ever to do with whether it smoked to some western standard that western ships are never held to.

They are called smoke stacks for a reason, their purpose is to move the smoke emitted from the engines of the ship away from the deck... even if they didn't smoke at all the heat would stand out like a smoke screen on a thermal imaging system to much greater distances than any smoke because smoke is generally cold and very hot plumes of gas don't naturally occur at sea... a good indicator that there is a ship there.

And I will politely tell you not to call me a troll again.

You are right, what you did was not trolling... it was flame baiting.

Anyone has a picture of the hangar ? Does that class has one ?

Yes, it does.

A Chinese model:



and a Soviet one with the door open:



The hangars are small but with the rotors folded the Helix is tiny.

But can the helicopter fit inside and close the doors ? I have some doubts about it, it's really small compare to standard hangar on russian ships.

How many photos have you seen them sailing around with a helicopter sitting on the pad?

Why waste space with a half hangar where you can poke the nose of the helicopter into it but not enough to shut the doors...?

That would be odd I would think.

Helix helicopters are very compact and with their main rotors folded are very small, though they are quite tall.

Notice the hangar in the bottom photo above... not enormously deep, though quite tall.

I seem to remember on one ship type the hangar could be extended to fit the helicopter, so the hangars are generally designed to be very compact anyway.

Hole wrote:It´s this ship class. The hangar of the Sov´s can be extended. You can see the rails in the deck on this pic.

I've already seen somewhere written they had a telescopic hangar but never saw pictures of it.

Gepard class has also a weired semi-hangar.

And Kirovs have under deck hangars.

IMO new ships like Gorshkov-M will start getting two more mini-hangars on the sides of the main hangar for drones, unless they put two hangars like on Udaloys.

The mini hangars on new ships may be used for multirole Ka-226T helicopters they are thinking of using... they have modular rear pods like thunderbird 2 I think... but obviously TB2 was not a helicopter.