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    Post  walle83 Sat May 20, 2023 7:59 pm

    Chinese shipbuilder Hudong–Zhonghua is busy expanding thier naval yard it seems. Several dry-docks and more building are under construction.

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    Post  lancelot Sat May 20, 2023 8:30 pm

    Rather than expanding they are building a new yard in that island. Their old yard close to Shanghai is supposed to be closed down and used for river front property development.
    The new yard is supposed to have better facilities.

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    Post  walle83 Sun May 21, 2023 8:41 pm

    True, the production is probably going to step up either way.
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    Post  GarryB Mon May 22, 2023 1:26 am

    We really don't know what their schedule might be... they wont keep building ships at this rate unless they have a high failure rate which would be very bad, though I think unlikely.

    They will be looking at their sea lines of communication and trade and where the risky places are and how to get and maintain ships in those areas with some persistence to ensure their trade lines can't be interfered with.

    They are not making these ships for fun.

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    Post  walle83 Mon May 22, 2023 10:27 pm

    The rate isnt showing any sign of slowing down yet. The Type-52D has probably reached it production goal of 25 vessels. The Type-054A frigate production continues with atleast 20 more vessels. The Type-055 is probably going for a second batch. Also its the Type-076 LDH should go in production in the next coming years.

    Then its the Type-004 carrier class, the type-054B frigate, the Type-095 SSN and the Type-096 SSBN.
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    Post  Podlodka77 Sun Jun 11, 2023 2:33 pm

    Entered into active service in the period from 2014 to 2023; 25 Type-052D destroyers...

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    Entered into active service in the period from 2013 to 2015; 4 Type-052C destroyers...The first two Type-052Cs entered active service in 2004 and 2005.

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    Construction continues...

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    Post  Podlodka77 Wed Nov 08, 2023 11:39 am

    I think it would be good to include the Type-051/052 destroyers (at least unified in the same column) as well as the Type-054A/B frigates in the section with the Chinese armed forces.
    As far as I can see, there is only a column for Type-055.
    The second Type-054B frigate was launched.

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    Post  Hole Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:31 pm

    Those ships are only build to keep the unemployment rate down.
    Most of them never left the littoral waters or even the harbor areas.
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    Post  lancelot Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:49 pm

    They use them as escorts for the destroyers quite often. And the Chinese do missions to Africa and the Middle East occasionally. For example they do anti-piracy deployments to the Gulf of Aden.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Wed Nov 08, 2023 5:20 pm

    Hole wrote:Those ships are only build to keep the unemployment rate down.
    Most of them never left the littoral waters or even the harbor areas.

    Then it turns out that the Chinese also built over 200 J-20s and over 300 J-16s just to keep up production. Laughing




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    Post  Mir Thu Nov 09, 2023 6:16 pm

    Hole wrote:Those ships are only build to keep the unemployment rate down.
    Most of them never left the littoral waters or even the harbor areas.

    All part of the PLAN's plan Laughing

    Ever heard of the Marshall Plan? We'll this is Xi's PLAN's plan.

    As a gesture of goodwill they will all be donated to Putin's FLOT cheers
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    Post  Isos Thu Nov 09, 2023 11:18 pm

    Hole wrote:Those ships are only build to keep the unemployment rate down.
    Most of them never left the littoral waters or even the harbor areas.

    Pretty sure they can still load cruise missiles and destroy US bases in the Pacific.

    But it's true they made a lot of speed boats and corvettes.

    Now they started focusing on big ships. The labding ships will also be very usefull.
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    Post  walle83 Sun Jun 23, 2024 8:16 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:

    Im gessing the video is talking about the Qinghaihu, a 35 year old replenishment ship bought from Ukraine in 1992.
    It has now been succeded by the larger and faster Typ-901 vessels in the Fuyu-class.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sun Jun 23, 2024 5:27 pm

    According to Zhang Gang, chief designer of Similan, China started development of a new AOR in 1988. Development was delayed due to cost, leading China to buy a Komandarm Fedko-class oiler, renamed Qinghaihu, from Ukraine in 1992.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_903_replenishment_ship#Development
    It's still fast enough for their Type 071/075/076 LPD/LHD/LHAs, since they will operate closer to shore & need less supplies than their CBGs.
    It has now been succeded by the larger and faster Type-901 vessels in the Fuyu-class.
    2 of them now active:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_901_fast_combat_support_ship
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