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    Post  George1 Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:21 am

    Chinese ground test and training complex for naval aviation

    The report flashed a version of the carrier-based fighter J-15, adapted for takeoff using a catapult. Stands on the right, covered with a tarp.

    A report from the Chinese ground test-training complex of naval aviation in honor of the 8th anniversary of the start of flights of PLA carrier-based aircraft fighters from the aircraft carrier Liaoning.
    The Chinese complex NITKA was built at the Huandikong airfield, located on the shores of the Bohai Bay of the Yellow Sea, eight kilometers south of the city of Xingcheng, Liaoning province and the Xingcheng airfield of the Chinese Naval Aviation Academy. The report showed a prototype of the J-15 carrier-based fighter with tail number "552", which on November 20, 2012, was the first to land and take off from the deck of the aircraft carrier "Liaoning", thus marking the birth of carrier-based aircraft of the PLA Navy.

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    Post  George1 Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:23 am

    Chinese "Carrier Assassins"

    Young pilots of the bomber aviation regiment of the bomber division of the naval aviation of the Southern Fleet of the PLA Navy are mastering the new Xian H-6J missile carriers, which are equipped with seven YJ-12 anti-ship missiles to strike enemy naval groups and are nicknamed the Chinese "assassins of aircraft carriers."

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:42 pm

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:33 pm

    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/37709/new-images-of-chinas-elusive-catapult-capable-j-15t-carrier-fighter-emerge
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    Post  George1 Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:34 pm

    Modifications of the Chinese Xian H-6 long-range jet bombers for the PLA Navy

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    Post  walle83 Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:24 pm

    George1 wrote:Modifications of the Chinese Xian H-6 long-range jet bombers for the PLA Navy

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    I dont know if the pictures are correct, the H-6K dont have the glass nose but the H-6L does?

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    Post  walle83 Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:30 pm

    China is building large new dry-docks in the Island of Hainan. Large enough to handle both the Type-1, 2 and 3 carriers.

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    They are also building a new airbase there.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:42 am

    They know what they r doing:
    https://news.abs-cbn.com/overseas/01/10/21/chinas-big-battleship-building-spree-to-guard-its-aircraft-carriers
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    Post  walle83 Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:29 am

    Looks like PLAN started its production of frigates again. After the 30th type-054A frigate was launched the production was halted. Now its started up again. Right vessel is a new frigate.

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    Post  GarryB Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:27 am

    With the US, Japan and Australia and now India threatening them, they could use more ships...
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    Post  walle83 Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:20 pm

    https://thediplomat.com/2020/12/hints-of-chinese-naval-ambitions-in-the-2020s/

    Acourding to this the 2021-2025 plan is to include:

    * 8 more Type-55 destroyers/cruisers
    * Continued production of the Type-52D destroyer
    * 20 additional type-54A frigates and starting up the type-54B production.
    * Several more type-71 LPDs
    * The type-76 helocarrier will be in active advanced development.

    Add to this a third aircraft carrier (type-003) and continued production of SSKs and SSNs.

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    Post  GarryB Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:03 am

    When a country with 1.2 billion people joins the anti china club then you really do start to need a bigger and better navy.

    Sad that India doesn't realise it is being used... but then China has been used by the US against the Soviets and now the Russians...

    How long before Americans realise that while the Russians are different, they are essentially conservative christians... which the Chinese are not... and the Indians are not either.

    Ironically freedom of religion in the west should mean that does not matter... but nobody is more intolerant than a liberal westerner.

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    Post  Isos Fri Feb 19, 2021 1:05 pm


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    Last two 056 corvettes for #PLAN have been commissioned. This means, the service has inducted a total of 72 corvettes (light frigates in service parlance, displacement 1,400 tons) over the course of just eight years. The very first hull had entered service 12 March 2013

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    Post  walle83 Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:15 pm

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    Last two 056 corvettes for #PLAN have been commissioned. This means, the service has inducted a total of 72 corvettes (light frigates in service parlance, displacement 1,400 tons) over the course of just eight years. The very first hull had entered service 12 March 2013

    Yep

    https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202102/1215722.shtml

    Thats 9 Buyan size vessels per year. To bad they dont have cruise missiles.
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    Post  Isos Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:15 pm

    Well that's more a patrol ship than a corvette. Pretty shitty design but they have a huge number of them.
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    Post  Tai Hai Chen Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:00 pm

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    Last two 056 corvettes for #PLAN have been commissioned. This means, the service has inducted a total of 72 corvettes (light frigates in service parlance, displacement 1,400 tons) over the course of just eight years. The very first hull had entered service 12 March 2013

    Yep

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    Thats 9 Buyan size vessels per year. To bad they dont have cruise missiles.

    Type 056 is on par with Steregushchy in terms of size and capability. It is armed with YJ-83 anti ship missiles.
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    Post  Tai Hai Chen Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:01 pm

    Isos wrote:Well that's more a patrol ship than a corvette. Pretty shitty design but they have a huge number of them.

    Type 056 is on par with Steregushchy in terms of size and capability. From what I understand they stopped building Type 056 in favor of more Type 055 destroyers which have better range and all round capability.
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    Post  Tai Hai Chen Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:04 pm

    GarryB wrote:When a country with 1.2 billion people joins the anti china club then you really do start to need a bigger and better navy.

    Sad that India doesn't realise it is being used... but then China has been used by the US against the Soviets and now the Russians...

    How long before Americans realise that while the Russians are different, they are essentially conservative christians... which the Chinese are not... and the Indians are not either.

    Ironically freedom of religion in the west should mean that does not matter... but nobody is more intolerant than a liberal westerner.

    Religion and culture aren't necessarily all that important when it comes to dominancy. France was helping Protestant Sweden fight against fellow Catholic Holy Roman Empire in the 30 years war.
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    Post  Tai Hai Chen Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:08 pm

    GarryB wrote:With the US, Japan and Australia and now India threatening them, they could use more ships...

    None of these are a threat. If anything, we could be looking at the first Type 054B which is on par with Gorshkov class frigate.
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    Post  walle83 Sat Feb 20, 2021 3:36 am

    I would say its something in between. Much better armed then any patrolboat but not as advancerad like the Steregushchys.
    Its a multimission vessel that carries both asm,  has anti air cabebilities and can also hunt submarines. Just what u need to fill up the gap between the type-22 missileboats and the type-54 frigate.
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    Post  GarryB Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:40 am

    They form an anti China coalition of Navies and you continue to compare to Russian ships?

    Maybe it is not just India that is delusional?

    Well that's more a patrol ship than a corvette. Pretty shitty design but they have a huge number of them.

    Corvettes in most navies don't need to be armed with anti carrier hypersonic missiles, I am sure as patrol boats they will be more than enough and when they are not then they can use two or three or use them with bigger ships.

    Navies don't normally feed their smallest ships into combat one at a time to see how they stack up... it is actually good practise to assess the threat and the job needing to be done and select appropriate combinations of ships and assets to make sure they can do that job without problem.

    Very few jobs assigned to corvettes include invading a country and regime change/occupation and exploitation of the population so a lack of hundreds of cruise missiles is not actually a big deal.
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    Post  Isos Sat Feb 20, 2021 2:56 pm

    Corvettes in most navies don't need to be armed with anti carrier hypersonic missiles, I am sure as patrol boats they will be more than enough and when they are not then they can use two or three or use them with bigger ships.

    That's completely false.

    Most likely enemy for anyone is US and their carriers.

    Most of navies have only corvettes or light frigates.

    Having hypersonic missiles that can destroy carriers is a must for anyone. Russia offers long rabge OTH radars and airborne radars that can help such corvette attack enemy carrier groups safely.

    Unless if you think you only enemies are speed boats with drug cartel onboard you better buy a Steregoushchy with UKSK.

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    Post  MarkD Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:40 pm

    walle83 wrote:I would say its something in between. Much better armed then any patrolboat but not as advancerad like the Steregushchys.
    Its a multimission vessel that carries both asm,  has anti air cabebilities and can also hunt submarines. Just what u need to fill up the gap between the type-22 missileboats and the type-54 frigate.

    Type 056 is along the lines of US's littoral combat ships. It's mainly used for coastal missions.

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