^^^I am putting this clown on ignore list... again
+10. Seems to be the same idiots returning time and time again.
FOR THE RUSSIANS IN HERE, and whoever may concern
to the list, please, these Basque separatists are the same crap as Ukrainian nationalists are to Russia, same deluded fanatics that make up a nation and a language and live in denial of their true historical heritage.
I have said before that to us Spaniards, the Catalans are our Ukrainians, whiners and wankers mildly treasonous, always begging for more money and goodies, but at least not violent, and the Basques are sort of like our Chechens, bloodthirsty savages and terrorists, though only a small minority.
The difference though is that apart the weird language, who barely anybody speaks, the Basques are the founders of modern Spain much as Russia started in Kiev. Much more Spanish than the Catalans that are a kind of another flavour of Spaniard but undistinguishable for outside observers, somewhat like Scotland is to England, and in keeping with the analogy, Basques are like the Welsh.
I am Basque myself by the way. And Spaniard, and proud of it.
Donbass people are independentists that want to rejoin the mother country. Spanish separatists are traitors, pure and simple, same as Ukranians are traitors to Mother Russia.
To all the crap spouted by eehnie
let's make this clear. Basques have a long and glorious history as part of Spain and many of the most distinguished Spanish heroes were Basque. Unfortunately, at the end of the 19th century some crackpot invented Basque racist right wing nationalism, a radicalization of traditional regional sentiment. And after the separatists ended up in the losing side of the Civil War, because they sided with the Reds, there appeared under the Franco dictatorship the ETA terrorist gang, of Marxist ideology, that killed about a thousand people from the late 60s for about forty years, until being totally defeated by police action.
Basques have had a very ample autonomy (federalization but in name) and economic privileges since democracy, and paradoxically, those regions, Basque land and Catalonia, were privileged and pampered under Franco. If Donbass and Crimea had a fraction of the autonomy, privileges and language rights Spanish regions enjoy, there would still exist a Ukraine.
There was no oppression of Basque people under Franco nor under democracy. Sure, in response to terrorism there was a dirty war, under democracy first years, but Russians will understand you can't fight terrorism without resorting to those measures. I make no apologies for the occasional terrorists that were killed or tortured. They all deserved it. And is a shame there was no death penalty as under Franco. I will remark that most of the murders ETA perpetrated where under democracy when they had all they asked for. And the ETA were a bunch of coward killers that murdered defenseless people by shooting them in the back of the head. They kidnapped, tortured, exploded car bombs and blew up policemen families houses killing a score of children, and blew up a supermarket killing dozens of people . It's a shame sons of a whore like eehnie are still spouting this crap about them not being Spanish. Nationalists are all the same shit everywhere. The arguments of a Ukranian nationalist are the same crap as those from a Basque or Catalonian separatist.
Now, you must know our separatists, Basque or catalan, are Russophobes and opposed to Crimea reunification and Donbass liberation struggle, they censor the war news in their regional TV and newspapers. It's easy to understand why, their model is Ukraine and the Baltics.
The Russian minorities are a uncomfortable reminder of what would happen if they ever seceded. The Basques and Catalans that live there and feel Spanish would want to remain part of Spain. Their "Ukrainization" of those Spaniards has failed because their shitty regional languages are totally useless and nobody speaks them unless forced to. There's also a element of class struggle here. The native Catalans look down on the Spanish inmigrants that came from impoverished regions of Spain to work at Catalan industry, just as the Ukranian nationalists look down with contempt on Donbass miners and workers.
In the Basque case, the mainstream Basque separatists are right wing and naturally see all Russians and Donbass people in particular, as dangerous Reds.
Now comes the twist, the minority of radical Basque separatists, about a couple hundred thousand people, the ones that supported terrorism and cheered ETA killings, are Marxists. Since ETA was defeated, these fanatics have no one left to cheer for, so they strangely support the Donbass people because they are Soviet nostalgics that wank with Communist style liberation struggle, even if they don't have any clue of what the war is really about.
It's schizophrenic since the Donbass people want what the Basques already have, and what the Basque nationalists deny in turn to the Spanish speaking Basques with the nationalist dictatorship they have imposed under the democratic rule. Good luck trying to get your kids educated in Spanish inside those Spanish regions. Sad.So you know, not everybody that supports Russia and the Donbass is a true friend of Russia
, Spanish Marxists do it for their own completely twisted and wrong reasons basically because they are sore losers that didn't get over the Spanish Civil War and they are refighting it in Donbass, sad to say but the Spanish guys that went to fight with the militia are mostly like that. A Spanish leftist usually is an atheist and antipatriot who hates his country, very much like early Bolsheviks wich wanted to destroy Russia. Nothing in common with an honest Communist from Soviet times. My Russian in-laws who lived under Soviet times are actually very much like my father that lived under Franco rule. Patriotic and socially conservative. The difference is just religious practice.
Ideologically I am closer to white guard types like Strelkov, but I do admire and respect many good things of the Soviet legacy and have evolved to a more balanced centered view and it makes me uncomfortable to be on the same boat as delusional Marxist fools that believe this war was going to be another October Revolution. I think most of them have been disappointed by now and moved on. And is totally disgusting for me to have to bear the cynical postings of traitors and terrorist supporters like eehnie that condemn Ukranian atrocities in Donbass while they have their hands bloodstained.
I am not Russian and only tangentially affected personally by this war, but I can say that for me and the Crimeans like my wife this is a simple ethnic, nationalist struggle, for us the Ukranians are just foreign invaders. Us or them. It's easy for us to hate them.
For the Donbass people I understand it's more of a civil war because they had closer ties with the rest of Ukranians, and actually most Ukranians, except the Western ones, are just Russians that forgot their identity.
For wankers to war porn like leftists worldwide, some of wich may be well meaning decent people, or delusional crackpots like eehnie
, this war is like a football match and they pick sides for entertainment, just like the Syrian civil war, wich I don't give a fuck about.