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Russian Civil Shipbuilding Sector
owais.usmani- Posts : 1814
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- Post n°101
Re: Russian Civil Shipbuilding Sector
kvs- Posts : 15707
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- Post n°102
Re: Russian Civil Shipbuilding Sector
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkasbhPEXcI
The new Aframax tanker runs on LNG. This is a big story all on its own. Smarmy NATzO and fellow traveler "countries" are trying
to snooker Russia in the Arctic with BS "environmentalism". They actually think that Russia is so primitive and backward
that it can't build ships that use clean propulsion. So while the precious west is still building bunker oil burning ships, Russia
is building large tankers and other transport ships that use natural gas.
The new Aframax tanker runs on LNG. This is a big story all on its own. Smarmy NATzO and fellow traveler "countries" are trying
to snooker Russia in the Arctic with BS "environmentalism". They actually think that Russia is so primitive and backward
that it can't build ships that use clean propulsion. So while the precious west is still building bunker oil burning ships, Russia
is building large tankers and other transport ships that use natural gas.
owais.usmani- Posts : 1814
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Re: Russian Civil Shipbuilding Sector
miketheterrible- Posts : 7383
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- Post n°104
Re: Russian Civil Shipbuilding Sector
Only for this model. All models after are to be made in Russia under some guidance from S.Korea for training as per agreement in 2018.
kvs- Posts : 15707
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- Post n°105
Re: Russian Civil Shipbuilding Sector
miketheterrible wrote:Only for this model. All models after are to be made in Russia under some guidance from S.Korea for training as per agreement in 2018.
Instead of admitting the impressive turnaround that Russia achieves with all sorts of technological projects, we have the usual BS about
"it's somebody else doing it". As if Russia can't build ships. For the hubris filled clueless: Russia can buy licensed solutions like the
rest of the developed world to save time.
miketheterrible- Posts : 7383
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- Post n°106
Re: Russian Civil Shipbuilding Sector
kvs wrote:miketheterrible wrote:Only for this model. All models after are to be made in Russia under some guidance from S.Korea for training as per agreement in 2018.
Instead of admitting the impressive turnaround that Russia achieves with all sorts of technological projects, we have the usual BS about
"it's somebody else doing it". As if Russia can't build ships. For the hubris filled clueless: Russia can buy licensed solutions like the
rest of the developed world to save time.
Once the other ships are out and built in Russia, Owais and douchebags like Rob will ignore it.
GarryB- Posts : 40234
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- Post n°107
Re: Russian Civil Shipbuilding Sector
There is no point in getting some of the worlds best ship builders to design and build new large shipyards for you and then not bother to learn how to make ships the way they make them.
A bit like wanting more powerful rocket motors and buying them from a cold war rival because they make better rockets than you do, and even though they handed over the full designs and actual samples of the rocket engines to you it will take 10 years for you to develop something that is comparable... but it is them that are stupid right?
Sadly things often only get attention when there is a problem... and any problem is taken as the tip of much bigger much more fundamental problems for which all management should be fired... but of course things get sorted out and once things are functioning normal everyone settles down.
A bit like wanting more powerful rocket motors and buying them from a cold war rival because they make better rockets than you do, and even though they handed over the full designs and actual samples of the rocket engines to you it will take 10 years for you to develop something that is comparable... but it is them that are stupid right?
Sadly things often only get attention when there is a problem... and any problem is taken as the tip of much bigger much more fundamental problems for which all management should be fired... but of course things get sorted out and once things are functioning normal everyone settles down.
kvs- Posts : 15707
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The tone of coverage of Russian industrial and other affairs is inane chicken little the sky is falling fantasy projection. China
is basically not faulted for ripping off everything it can get its hands on. I am not saying that China is doing the wrong thing.
Thanks to foreign meddling it was set back by decades if not centuries and has had to run hard to catch up. At some point
its internal capacity for technological and scientific development must reach critical mass and I believe that this is now in
progress. But Russia is denigrated for doing the smart thing and building off the shelf products to bootstrap certain production
lines that never existed before. Building a goddamned super tanker is not like building the S-500 system and is not worth
all the chicken little hysteria.
As we saw with the Mistrals, Russia will use the initial batch to develop its own designs for subsequent generations. This is
to be applauded.
is basically not faulted for ripping off everything it can get its hands on. I am not saying that China is doing the wrong thing.
Thanks to foreign meddling it was set back by decades if not centuries and has had to run hard to catch up. At some point
its internal capacity for technological and scientific development must reach critical mass and I believe that this is now in
progress. But Russia is denigrated for doing the smart thing and building off the shelf products to bootstrap certain production
lines that never existed before. Building a goddamned super tanker is not like building the S-500 system and is not worth
all the chicken little hysteria.
As we saw with the Mistrals, Russia will use the initial batch to develop its own designs for subsequent generations. This is
to be applauded.
Big_Gazza- Posts : 4821
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- Post n°109
Re: Russian Civil Shipbuilding Sector
kvs wrote:As we saw with the Mistrals, Russia will use the initial batch to develop its own designs for subsequent generations. This is
to be applauded.
These nay-saying fuckwits will learn in the fullness of time. Russia WILL be wealthy, developed, powerful, politically stable & independent, financially unassailable, technologically advanced, industrially self-sufficient, militarily unconquerable, and an undeniable example to other nations on how they can take control of their own affairs without kow-towing to the corrupt bankster cartels and their indentured minions in the bought-and-paid-for Western polity.
These yabbering clowns can prattle all they like, but they can't change reality, and the trend is clear that more and more of the world is slipping through their grasping neo-liberal talons. Fuck them, and just keep moving forwards because that is what they really fear.
PapaDragon- Posts : 13438
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- Post n°110
Re: Russian Civil Shipbuilding Sector
First passenger ferry 'Admiral Nevelsky' for service of Kuril Islands has been launched
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4041781.html
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owais.usmani- Posts : 1814
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- Post n°111
Re: Russian Civil Shipbuilding Sector
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4090418.html
As reported on July 14, 2020 Shipbuilding Complex Zvezda LLC (SSK Zvezda, Bolshoy Kamen, Primorsky Krai), the company carried out an operation to install a waterproof shutter (batoport) on the construction dry dock being built. A floating structure 114 meters long and 12 meters high will separate the dock chamber, the bottom of which is located below the water level, from the water area.
The dry dock is one of the world's largest hydraulic structures with dimensions of 485х114х14 meters and a key element of the second stage of construction of the Zvezda shipyard. A dry dock allows you to build most types of existing and promising ships with virtually no limit to the tonnage and launch weight of the hulls. A unique Goliath-type crane with a lifting capacity of 1200 tons was installed at the dock, and pumping equipment that has no analogues in Russia was installed. The commissioning of the dock is scheduled for the current year.
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George1- Posts : 18473
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- Post n°112
Re: Russian Civil Shipbuilding Sector
Bathoport of dry construction dock SSK Zvezda installed
As reported on July 14, 2020 by OOO Shipbuilding Complex Zvezda (SSK Zvezda, Bolshoy Kamen, Primorsky Territory), the enterprise carried out an operation to install a watertight gate (bathoport) at the construction dry dock under construction. The floating structure, 114 meters long and 12 meters high, will separate the dock chamber, the bottom of which is located below the water level, from the water area.
Construction dry dock of the Zvezda shipyard with an installed watertight seal (bathoport). Bolshoi Kamen (Primorsky Territory), July 2020 (c) SSK "Zvezda"
The hull of the bathoport, made of high-strength shipbuilding steel, has a continuous waterproof skin and is divided by decks and bulkheads into air, ballast and open compartments. The bath port includes ballast systems, drainage, ventilation systems, dry dock filling valves, as well as a local fire extinguishing system and fire alarm. The batoport is controlled from the central console and local posts. Another feature is the presence of a carriageway on the upper deck of the bathoport.
Before installing the hydraulic seal, the shipyard specialists flooded the dry dock. Also, work was performed to dismantle the enclosing bulkhead - dry dock dam, as well as dredging in the water area adjacent to the dock gate.
The dry dock is one of the world's largest hydraulic structures with dimensions of 485х114х14 meters and a key element of the second stage of construction of the Zvezda shipyard. A dry dock allows you to build most types of existing and promising ships with virtually no limit to the tonnage and launch weight of the hulls. A unique Goliath-type crane with a lifting capacity of 1200 tons was installed at the dock, and pumping equipment that has no analogues in Russia was installed. The commissioning of the dock is scheduled for the current year.
The construction of the most powerful icebreaker in the world "Russia" of the "Leader" project will be carried out in the dry dock of the SSK "Zvezda". At present, the first parts for the future nuclear-powered ship are being cut in the hull production unit.
The vessel will become the most powerful ship in the history of world shipbuilding. This is a technically complex project that has no analogues in the world. Its key task is to provide year-round navigation of the commercial fleet along the Northern Sea Route. The Leader project will become the backbone of the new generation of Russian icebreaker fleet. The length of the new nuclear-powered ship will be 210 meters, width - 47 meters, draft - 13 meters. The icebreaker Rossiya will be equipped with two RITM-400 nuclear reactors, four turbines and four propeller motors. The total capacity of the icebreaker's power plants will be 120 MW, which will allow the vessel to overcome ice more than 4 meters thick at a speed of 2 knots. With an ice thickness of 2 meters, the icebreaker's speed will be up to 12 knots.
The Zvezda shipbuilding complex is being created by the Consortium led by Rosneft on behalf of the President of Russia V.V. Putin. To date, the shipyard's portfolio of orders includes over 40 vessels, including options - 59 vessels. The pilot loading of the complex is provided by Rosneft, which has placed an order for 28 vessels at the shipyard. The Zvezda product line will include vessels with a displacement of up to 350 thousand tons, elements of offshore platforms, ice-class vessels, commercial vessels for transporting goods, special ships and other types of marine equipment of any complexity, characteristics and purposes, including equipment that previously in Russia it was not produced due to the lack of the necessary launching and hydraulic structures.
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4090418.html
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owais.usmani- Posts : 1814
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https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/PAO-NOVATEK-4005382/news/NOVATEK-Arctic-LNG-2-Chartered-15-Arc7-Tankers-to-be-Built-at-Zvezda-Shipyard-31245215/
Moscow, 7 September 2020. PAO NOVATEK announced that its joint venture Arctic LNG 2 ('Arctic LNG 2' and/or the 'Project') entered into long-term charter agreements on 14 Arc7 ice-class LNG tankers with SMART LNG (a joint venture between NOVATEK and PAO Sovcomflot), with the construction of the LNG tankers to be built at the Zvezda Shipbuilding Complex. The signing of the charter agreements allowed SMART LNG to conclude the corresponding contracts with the VEB.RF Group and Zvezda Shipbuilding Complex LLC for the construction and lease financing of these vessels.
In October 2019, the contracts for chartering, financing and construction of a pilot ice-class LNG tanker to be built at the Zvezda shipyard were signed. Earlier, the participants of Arctic LNG 2 (NOVATEK, TOTAL, CNPC, CNOOC, and the consortium of Mitsui and JOGMEC) in accordance with the Projects' Sea Transportation Strategy, approved the construction of 15 Arc7 ice-class LNG tankers at Zvezda Shipbuilding Complex.
The construction of 15 state-of-the-art ice-class gas tankers ensures the core formation of the Arctic fleet for the Project that will allow the year round transport of LNG along the Northern Sea Route to the Asian Pacific region, and provide an important stimulus to develop the Russian shipbuilding industry.
Arrow- Posts : 3280
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Re: Russian Civil Shipbuilding Sector
https://mobile.twitter.com/artjomh/status/1303306730177265664
Some people say that zviezda shipyard is not built for military production.
Some people say that zviezda shipyard is not built for military production.
owais.usmani- Posts : 1814
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Arrow wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/artjomh/status/1303306730177265664
Some people say that zviezda shipyard is not built for military production.
This is correct that the shipyard was primarily financed by Rosneft for construction of Oil and Gas tankers. However that does not mean that the Russian MOD can't place an order there in future and nobody in Zvezda management would be foolish enough to refuse such an order. Having said that, I don't think MOD is really thinking about aircraft carriers at the moment, I would be surprised if any aircraft carrier order is placed before 2030 at the earliest.
SeigSoloyvov- Posts : 3851
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Arrow wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/artjomh/status/1303306730177265664
Some people say that zviezda shipyard is not built for military production.
It's not built purely for the military but it's for both commercial and military ships yes.
Someone trying to say military ships aren't as profitable as civilians ships are stupid as shit...
Military vessels cost more to produce then civilian ships and a shipyard gets its money from just building the ships.
if you two shipyards that are exactly the same and one builds nothing but military and the other civilian you will see a huge gap in the income levels.
George1- Posts : 18473
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The first new ferry for Sakhalin was sent from Komsomolsk-on-Amur for completion to Vladivostok
On September 26, 2020, towing from Amur Shipbuilding Plant PJSC (ASZ; part of United Shipbuilding Corporation JSC - USC) in Komsomolsk-on-Amur to the outfitting base in Vladivostok of the head cargo-passenger automobile-railway ferry Alexander Deev ( serial number 300) of the CNF11CPD / 00300 project, being built for the Vanino - Kholmsk ferry line (Sakhalin island). The transfer of the ferry "Alexander Deev" to the customer represented by PJSC "State Transport Leasing Company" (STLC) is now scheduled for 2021.
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4149329.html
On September 26, 2020, towing from Amur Shipbuilding Plant PJSC (ASZ; part of United Shipbuilding Corporation JSC - USC) in Komsomolsk-on-Amur to the outfitting base in Vladivostok of the head cargo-passenger automobile-railway ferry Alexander Deev ( serial number 300) of the CNF11CPD / 00300 project, being built for the Vanino - Kholmsk ferry line (Sakhalin island). The transfer of the ferry "Alexander Deev" to the customer represented by PJSC "State Transport Leasing Company" (STLC) is now scheduled for 2021.
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4149329.html
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Arrow- Posts : 3280
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https://www.themeditelegraph.com/en/shipping/shipyard-and-offshore/2020/05/07/news/russia-tops-as-no-3-world-s-shipbuilder-nation-1.38815774
Does Russia have one of the most extensive shipbuilding industries in the world?
Does Russia have one of the most extensive shipbuilding industries in the world?
PapaDragon- Posts : 13438
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- Post n°119
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Project А45-90.2 river/sea cruise ship Andrei Dubenskiy has been laid down in Sredne‑Nevsky Shipyard (St. Pete)
It will operate on Yenisei river between Krasnoyarsk and Dixon, there will be two ships built
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- Post n°120
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Meanwhile, on October 3, news appeared on the official website of the Zvezda shipyard: they started cutting metal for the seventh Aframax tanker.
sskzvezda.ru/index.php/ru/news/8-news/439-sudoverf-zvezda-nachala-stroitelstvo-sedmogo-tankera-tipa-aframaks
sskzvezda.ru/index.php/ru/news/8-news/439-sudoverf-zvezda-nachala-stroitelstvo-sedmogo-tankera-tipa-aframaks
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kvs- Posts : 15707
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The Kostroma Shipyards have completed one of five river tankers for the Netherlands in 7 months which is a record for them
It usually takes 9-12 months to build similar sized ships.
Meanwhile the new 5th column consisting of emo-Marxists aka Trotskyists is screeching that all is lost and that Russia
is merely operating on Soviet vapours. They have the wrong country, they should move to Ukraine and bitch there.
Since the laissez-faire capitalist liberasts have nearly zero support in Russia, NATzO is trying another trick and that is
to fund so-called communists to do the same 5th column job.
I think they are not going succeed with this trick. It's too late for Soviet nostalgia to work and too many people for
the USSR period have passed away. And as with the original liberasts, the shouting does not fit observable reality.
Hole- Posts : 11057
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- Post n°122
Re: Russian Civil Shipbuilding Sector
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kvs- Posts : 15707
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Most likely one of the cleanest running ships on the planet. No accolades from so-called western environmentalists. And of course
no reporting on this fact from the NATzO fake stream media.
no reporting on this fact from the NATzO fake stream media.
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Hole- Posts : 11057
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Because Russia doesn´t build anything.