New generation projects have appeared in civil aircraft construction. Denis Manturov in an interview with RG about Russian aircraft and import substitution in the automotive industry, by Evgeny Gaiva for Rossiskaya Gazeta. 10.18.2022.
The Russian aviation industry will start serial production of Superjets in 2024, in which about 40 imported components have been replaced with domestic ones. This was stated in an interview with Rossiyskaya Gazeta by Deputy Prime Minister - Minister of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov. Import substitution is also taking place in the automotive industry. Factories receive preferential loans for the production of parts.
Denis Valentinovich, when will mass production of the SSJ-100 New with a Russian engine start?
Denis Manturov The Komsomol branch of the Irkut corporation is now assembling the first five SSJ New fuselages, they are in varying degrees of readiness. The prototype, which will make its first flight in 2023, has already begun to be equipped with Russian-made systems and units. Another airframe was delivered to TsAGI for ground testing.
Serial deliveries of the aircraft will be able to begin immediately after receiving the certificate. Accordingly, by the end of 2023, we plan to transfer the first two vehicles. And from 2024, the project will reach the planned capacity - 20 cars per year. I want to emphasize that this is not just a remotorization for a domestic engine - we are talking about creating a virtually new car, about 40 imported systems and units will be replaced on it. A lot of cooperation is involved in this work - enterprises that are part of the UEC, KRET, Technodinamika and many others. It is very important that it works smoothly and that all suppliers fulfill their tasks.
According to the government's plans, by 2030, a thousand domestic aircraft will be built in Russia. This is real?
Denis Manturov: Production volumes will be increased gradually. For SSJ New, we will start with 20 pieces in 2024-2025 and then we will look at the needs of the market and the ability of enterprises to increase production. For the MS-21 aircraft, we will start with 6 aircraft in 2024 with a gradual increase to 72 aircraft per year.
MS-21 is the second product of a new generation. Realizing that in all respects it is not inferior to its "classmates", it was originally planned that the design capacity would be 72 aircraft per year. Today, these plans are being maintained, and new opportunities are opening up before us. The demand for domestic aircraft will only grow with the gradual withdrawal of foreign aircraft from the fleet of our airlines. Thus, not only a high-end product appeared, but also a market niche for it.
Of course, a thousand aircraft by 2030 is a serious task. To fulfill it, a lot of work has to be done to expand production capacities and increase the volume of components.
Do we have a base for this?
Denis Manturov: The state has already supported the industry, realizing the strategic importance of civil aircraft construction. Therefore, new generation projects have appeared that fully meet all world standards in terms of economy, ecology, ergonomics and operational characteristics.
"The creation of SSJ New is not just a remotorization for a domestic engine. It's about creating a virtually new machine".
Can our experts do it?
Denis Manturov: I would like to note the uniqueness of our aviation industry specialists - engineers, technologists, highly skilled workers. Systematic state support, the implementation of large-scale breakthrough projects and the creation of good working conditions in the industry have formed the necessary personnel base. I can firmly say that we have a new generation of professionals who are able to work in a digital environment, with electronic documentation, on CNC machines, based on the philosophy and advanced standards of lean manufacturing.
Now we need not only to preserve the existing human resources potential, but also to increase it. The industry needs a large number of specialists to fulfill a large-scale task set at the state level, so our young promising guys who dream of taking part in projects that are unique in scale and important for the country can be sure that their knowledge and skills will definitely be in demand in aircraft manufacturing enterprises.
Periodically reported a shortage of parts at AvtoVAZ. Are there any difficulties now? How are these issues resolved?
Denis Manturov: The AvtoVAZ management now controls from 100 to 300 positions of components that are at varying degrees of risk. Their presence is constantly monitored to prevent interruptions in the operation of conveyors. At the same time, active localization work is underway for such positions. The timing of its completion depends on the complexity of a particular node, the investment capacity of the localization project, the market volumes that ensure the economic viability of the project, and other factors.
The state helps Russian automakers, including by introducing new support tools. For example, in 2022, the Ministry of Industry and Trade of Russia, together with the Industrial Development Fund (IDF), launched the Auto Components program. Russian manufacturers can receive preferential loans for 10 years at a rate of 1% per annum for the implementation of projects to create serial production of units and assemblies for wheeled vehicles and specialized equipment.
To date, four loans totaling RUB 15.4 billion have already been approved. For example, the IDF has already provided Avtodizel PJSC with a loan in the amount of 2 billion rubles for the production of engines for commercial vehicles. They are installed on automotive and tractor equipment. After reaching the design capacity, the company plans to produce up to 7,000 engines per year, which will significantly reduce dependence on imports. This is just one example. The program is of great interest to automakers and is gaining momentum. New applications are received every week, now there are more than 30 applications for preferential loans in this area in the work of the IDF.
"By October, the program of preferential car loans provided discounts for 4.1 billion rubles, and in general this year 9.7 billion rubles were allocated for the program".
In July, the Ministry of Industry and Trade resumed the soft lending program for the purchase of Russian cars. How many cars have been purchased under the program?
Denis Manturov: At the beginning of October, about 22,000 cars were sold under the preferential car loan program, the volume of discounts provided amounted to about 4.1 billion rubles. In general, the budget of the preferential car loan program in 2022 is 9.7 billion rubles.
When will preferential car loans be extended to hydrogen transport?
Denis Manturov: Within the framework of state programs of preferential leasing and car loans, support for electric transport has already been implemented. Given the relevance of using hydrogen as a fuel in transport, I think that this issue will also be worked out. But the timing of the implementation of the initiative will depend on the availability of localized products on the market that are ready for mass production.
When is it possible to produce serial transport on hydrogen in Russia?
Denis Manturov: We consider it important to use alternative fuels in transport, including hydrogen, and we provide support to domestic enterprises in the development of this area. Due to a systemic support measure, KAMAZ has created a prototype hydrogen-fuelled electric bus.
This year, it is expected to begin testing a prototype of the KAMAZ hydrogen electric bus on the streets of Moscow in real conditions. Already in 2023, it is planned to transfer the first 5 hydrogen electric buses for operation on the routes of the capital.
Labeling has been delayed for some products. Why? Do you plan to give a delay to some other products?
Denis Manturov: Due to sanctions pressure on businesses, mandatory labeling requirements scheduled to be launched after March 1, 2022 have been postponed. This benefit was offered for the most socially significant product groups: dairy products and packaged water (while the requirements in force as of March 1, 2022 remain). In addition, at the initiative of the Ministry of Industry and Trade, to support business, experiments on beer, dietary supplements and antiseptics were extended for six months, until March 1, 2023.
Delays for other commodity groups are currently not planned. Further decisions will be made on a case-by-case basis, depending on the economic situation.
Let me remind you that the labeling system is consistently integrated with the information systems of other departments, including those that already trace raw materials for the production of finished products, for example, Mercury for dairy products, Rosnedra for water and EGAIS for medicines, perfumery products and subsequently beer. This allows you to receive confirmation that the goods are on the shelves in the stores, for the production of which raw materials that meet the quality and safety requirements were used. Due to such integration from the registers of control departments, all permits for labeled products, that is, certificates, declarations of conformity, certificates of state registration, etc. are “pulled up” into the labeling system.
And what does it give to buyers?
Denis Manturov: Due to the full traceability of goods in the labeling system, their "digital footprint" is created from the moment they appear in circulation until they are discarded at the checkout. This allows consumers, in case of doubt about the quality of the goods, to file a complaint through the mobile application with the authorized control authorities for a specific unit of production, and employees of the control and supervision authorities to see and specifically check which business entity committed a particular violation. Thus, the market is gradually cleared of illegal and low-quality products.
Some regions have already announced the completion of partial mobilization. Is it possible to ensure the stable functioning of industries and key enterprises in conditions of partial mobilization? Are qualified personnel retained in production?
Denis Manturov: Today it is equally important to fulfill the tasks of partial mobilization and to prevent the closure of enterprises. If we talk about organizations of "civilian industries", then here the main work on granting deferrals from conscription is carried out under the leadership of the Interdepartmental Booking Commission. Let me remind you that this commission is not a new one, but a permanent body, whose work, of course, has become much more intensive after the announcement of partial mobilization. A representative of the General Staff takes part in the commission, thus maintaining a balance between ensuring the operation of the economy and fulfilling mobilization tasks.
The work is organized and conducted in accordance with the List of categories of employees of organizations in respect of which a deferment from conscription for military service for mobilization may be granted. Such a list is developed and approved by the International Military Commission, systematically updated and communicated to the sectoral ministries and departments, to the General Staff, as well as to regional and municipal authorities to organize the necessary work on the ground in cooperation with the military commissariats. Its updated version now includes about 7.5 thousand positions and professions.
"Mandatory requirements for the labeling of dairy products and packaged water have been postponed, no delays are planned for other product groups".
Reservation is subject to employees of those organizations that meet one or more of the following criteria: they have a mobilization task, perform work to ensure the life of the population in wartime, or train citizens in military specialties.
In addition to updating the list that I mentioned, the interdepartmental commission is also responsible for "analyzing" exceptional cases of individual reservations of citizens: when the position and profession of an employee are not included in the approved list, but his presence at the workplace is of critical importance, the decision on it is taken collectively.
If we talk about defense industry enterprises, in our work we are guided by the Presidential Decree on partial mobilization and the rules approved by the government for granting a deferment, these documents determine the circle of organizations that are granted a deferment, categories of employees and the procedure for granting a deferment.
Let me emphasize that the postponement applies to managers, specialists and workers who work in defense industry organizations and participate in the implementation of state defense orders. Based on these two conditions, we organized work to refine the consolidated register of defense industry organizations and form, on its basis, a list of organizations whose employees are granted the right to deferment from the call for mobilization.