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    Russian MRLS: Grad, Uragan, Smerch, Tornado-G/S

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    Post  George1 on Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:18 am

    Smerch

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    Post  GarryB on Mon Jun 15, 2020 7:56 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:What is this one?

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    The launcher portion looks photoshopped.

    The launcher portion looks like TOS...

    That new mine layer looks interesting... such a vehicle would be very useful to rapidly block certain directions an enemy could move rapidly through.... AFAIK anti personel mines are banned by agreement with the US being outside that agreement, but Russia is abiding by it so this must be an anti vehicle type mine layer...
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    Post  Hole on Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:05 pm

    Not real MLRS, but... Wink

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    Post  Hole on Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:04 pm

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    Post  Isos on Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:57 pm

    Not real MLRS, but... Wink

    Reload vehicle for tornado, no ?

    Interesting it has smock grenades...
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    Post  Hole on Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:58 pm

    First pic is the ISDM mine-laying system.
    Second pic is the transloader for the ISDM.
    Third pic is the TOS-2.
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    Post  dino00 on Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:21 pm

    TOS-2 is at the stage of preliminary tests. According to their results, the letter “O” will be assigned, after which it will go to state tests, which will be completed next year. After that, a decision will be made on its adoption, ”said Kochkin.

    Here you can see what "letters" mean in this context
    https://philosoft-services.com/blog/wordpress/archives/236

    Link provided by GunshipDemocracy some time ago

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:10 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:Technically a mine layer, but it operates like MLRS, set to be debuted at the 2020 Victory Day parade. It looks like Grad/Tornado-G, but it's probably more offshoot of Tornado-G than Grad. Tornado-G is having 100km range rockets being introduced, but a dedicated mine laying vehicle being created suggested a much reduced range in favor of a much greater supply of submunitions, so instead of having 100km range, it could have 10km range but with double the supply of bomblets.

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    It's exactly like how I predicted.

    The system of remote installation of mines "Agriculture": creatively approached the name
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    In Russia, the final stage of testing the new multiple launch rocket system "Agriculture", designed for remote installation of mines. Remote Mining Engineering System (ISDM) includes combat and transport-loading vehicles, as well as transport and launch containers.

    Transport and launch containers contain engineering ammunition that meets the requirements of the Geneva Convention regarding their subsequent self-destruction.

    The combat vehicle is a volley fire system with fifty guides of 122 mm caliber. It is capable of using various types of mines: both anti-personnel and anti-tank. Before the salvo set flight mission and parameters for the self-destruction of ammunition.

    The range of "Agriculture" is 5-15 kilometers, which allows mining in the most safe and maneuverable way at a remote distance.

    The developer of the new technology is the NPO Splav.

    It is also known that a combat vehicle can install a new generation of mines. Perhaps we are talking about the "smart" mines POM-3, which were reported back in 2016. Thanks to a special electronic filling, such mines are able to recognize targets and work only when necessary. For example, they ignore animals and vehicles and respond only to humans.

    KamAZ vehicles with armored cabs equipped with air filtration and ventilation systems, as well as air conditioners, are used as a chassis for “Agriculture”.

    The system was officially introduced for the first time on June 24 at a parade in honor of the 75th anniversary of the Great Victory, which took place in Moscow on Red Square. Two combat and two transport-loading vehicles took part there. But even before that, “Agriculture” could be observed during rehearsals.

    Now the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are armed with universal mine-clearances (UMZ) based on the chassis of ZIL-131 vehicles, the maximum radius of which is 100 meters. There is also a helicopter mining system VSM-1 based on Mi-8, which can be used from a height of not more than 150 meters.

    In the 70s, on the basis of MLRS Grad and Hurricane already tried to create a similar system with a range of up to 30 kilometers, but it was ineffective due to low accuracy and high cost of ammunition.

    The team of authors in terms of name approached the process creatively. According to some reports, the "agrarian" theme prevailed initially. For example, the Sower option was proposed. But in the end, the remote mining system became "Agriculture."

    https://topwar.ru/172529-armija-rf-poluchit-innovacionnuju-sistemu-distancionnoj-ustanovki-min-zemledelie.html

    The cutaway shows a large percentage of the internal space on 122mm rockets is dedicated for propellant. Limiting the range to 5-15km (approx. 1/10th the propellant) means that it can easily hold twice as many submunitions.

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    Post  AJ-47 on Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:06 pm

    Hole wrote:The MRLS on the pic is an Uragan-1M. The Tornado-S looks like the Smerch.
    you right but I think that this launcher can get pallets with 300mm rockets and the 220mm rockets.
    maybe they want to use a common launcher for both rockets which might is a good idea.

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    The regular launcher of the Uragan
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