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    Border Service and Coast Guard of Russia

    miketheterrible
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    Post  miketheterrible on Sun May 31, 2020 4:20 pm

    Maybe FSB doesn't actually like the Rubin. I know you state it's saving face but what exactly do you know? Are you FSB? Do you work for FSB? Building new design engines isn't beyond Russia since they already done it twice for Corvettes and now frigates. So building something to replace those of Rubin would make sense since Russia wasn't afraid to admit they couldn't build more due to engines and have to design new ones as replacement. So why would they now be afraid.

    You are basing everything on assumptions and conjecture. I think this is why no one takes you seriously.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Sun May 31, 2020 4:27 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:Maybe FSB doesn't actually like the Rubin....

    They were buying them like crazy for 15 years which means they didn't just liked them, they loved them

    This "I didn't like them" shtick doesn't fly anymore, if they had any objections whatsoever they had a whole decade to voice it

    They never did, what they did though was to sign praises to them

    Some basic dignity, please


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    Post  miketheterrible on Sun May 31, 2020 4:37 pm

    Things change. Maybe initially they liked them. Maybe hey didn't but previous management did?

    Who knows and I know for a fact you do not. Like I said, they had no problem admitting that they don't have engines to replace them and that they would end up working on new engines to replace them. These ships are also much smaller than a corvette or a frigate and they managed to design and build gearboxes and engines for those ships so something smaller? How laughable.

    Anyway, let's see what they do end up doing. They seem to change their minds very often and plans change often.
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    Post  GarryB on Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:42 am

    They were buying them like crazy for 15 years which means they didn't just liked them, they loved them

    But does it?

    They might have thought they were wonderful because they hadn't tried anything else and didn't realise they could get better...

    These old boats might have been fine 15 years ago but now they need drones and space for drones and facilities for handling drones just as an example...

    Anyway, let's see what they do end up doing. They seem to change their minds very often and plans change often.

    For all we know management might have changed or requirements might have changed... as you say they don't need to be covering up some big conspiracy or anything...

    They might have had an offer of a new design that they think will be much better so they can't say what they have is perfect because that will sabotage funding for the new vessel...

    Who knows that could tell us?

    No one.
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    Post  George1 on Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:38 pm

    Frontier patrol ship Taimyr put into operation

    Reportedly, on July 10, 2020, in St. Petersburg, the Almaz Shipbuilding Company JSC held a ceremony of raising the Flag of border ships, boats and support vessels on the 2nd rank Taimyr border patrol ship of project 22120 (code "Purga") with serial number 054, which became part of the Coast Guard of the Border Service of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation. It became the fifth, and, apparently, the last in the series ship of Project 22120.

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4086120.html

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