ExBeobachter1987 wrote:Neutrality wrote:Who exactly fled? Why do people immediately assume that Givi and Motorola fled or something terrible has happened to them because there's silence from them? Seriously, you are worse than the Western MSM a few months back. Creating all sorts of conspiracies about Putin and why he hadn't appeared in public for over a week.sepheronx wrote:Neutrality wrote:sepheronx wrote:If NAF does not fight back after these events, then I give up any full supporting of them. They have proved to be incompetent and they are allowing their own people to die. Eventually, the people will see this, the unwillingness of self defence, and will turn on NAF and be willing to be ruled under Kiev's authorities (for peace and security of not going to die from artillery fire). The ones who did fight back will end up facing persecution and the rest will flee. Russia will in the end look like fools and traitors.
NAF is f***ed. They are getting ass kicked right now and losing territory all in the name of good will. We know specifically once they pull back, PUkes will move in and we will be back to what we are now, but with PUkes shelling even further in Donetsk/Lugansk and nothing done.
Yeah, they will just love that. The very people that have killed several thousand of their relatives. Stop the panick already and wait to see what happens.
You think they will waltz in and ethnic cleanse? Oh no, it is much easier for them to start pushing the brainwashing even more. At the expense though, people will take it as it is a hell of a lot better than being worried that an artillery shell will land on you, while your so called compatriots that are supposed to be defending you, are hiding away and moving troops around but doing squat. I know I would. I think at this point, NAF has given up and people have fled, hence why no one has heard from Givi or Motorolla or the like. Now the bombardments have increased and gone even further into Donetsk, and they have done nothing.
Sorry, you cannot wait on these things. One has to act or you wont have people left. Especially people who will support you. Because lets face it, sitting back and doing nothing for "good will", isn't going to protect you from a 100mm shell landing on you, or a 7.62 round in the head.
Because it is a very bad time to be silent. Putin needed some free time and the situation was not critical, hence it was okay.
Not in this case.
And naturally, we are trying to make sense of it because the official narrative is not convincing at all.
Of course it is a bad time to be silent over this. Base is abandoned. Wonder why?
Anyway, the only way NAF could get out of this is hopes that PUkes decide to attack and NAF is forced to defend itself. But I still think striking the artillery units whom are killing your people is a good step too.