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    Post  miketheterrible Sun Aug 06, 2017 5:55 pm

    Good thing it failed and everyone involved is getting arrested.
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    Post  kvs Sun Aug 06, 2017 7:47 pm

    Thwarting the coup is good, but lack of control of the street mob theater is bad. It's time for the millions of Venezuelans who
    benefited from the Bolivarian revolution to get their asses in gear and counter-demonstrate. They can't sit by the sidelines and
    hope it will all blow over. As we have seen numerous times, including in Ukraine, the street mob is used as a tool to instigate
    regime change. The people must start targeting these 5th column dirtbags. I would bring Molotov cocktails and baseball bats
    with spikes and shotguns and let loose. F*ck these demonstrator criminals, they are not the electorate and they do not get
    to decide who rules the country. By being witting or unwitting agents for a foreign power, they should be subjected to an open
    season. Rights have limitations.
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    Post  George1 Sun Aug 06, 2017 9:53 pm

    well i dont support any kind of coup but i dont consider Maduro's Assembly election was sth constitutional
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    Post  miketheterrible Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:26 pm

    Apparently the guy involved was some traitor who defected to the US a few years ago. Guess he came back with some citizens who all dressed up as military and attacked a base. They were quickly quelled but the military is now on patrol with even tanks.
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    Post  kvs Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:32 pm

    George1 wrote:well i dont support any kind of coup but i dont consider Maduro's Assembly election was sth constitutional

    Does playing air apply under conditions of foreign meddling to instigate regime change. I consider emergency measures to be legitimate
    and constitutions are much like used toilet paper in spite of all the reverence they get.
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    Post  ATLASCUB Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:35 pm

    From an intelligence perspective we have watched in my seven months in office a continued deterioration. Maduro is continuing to assert more power, inflict more pain on the people of Venezuela, you can see the beginning of fissures among various groups. What I believe the president is trying to accomplish this week was to give the Venezuelan people hope and opportunity to create a situation where democracy can be restored. The intelligence makes very clear that the Maduro regime continues to put snipers in towers and do things that are horrible, repressive and the American policy is to work with our Latin American partners to try and restore democracy.

    Venezuela could very much become a risk for the United States of America. The Cubans are there; the Russians are there, the Iranians, Hezbollah are there. This is something that has a risk of getting to a very very bad place, so America needs to take this very seriously.”

    Of course it's. Latin American states breaking away from the plantation is a threat to American hegemony. Russian/Chinese companies along with Venezuela's PDVSA controlling Venezuela's energy business is a threat to the petro-dollar as well. Rosneft expansion is a MAJOR threat to Exxon too since its tentacles are far reaching now....plus a great many things in the realm of geopolitics and economics when it comes to Venezuela. The new wave of neoliberals in Brazil/Argentina won't last more than a decade tops and everyone knows it. It's do or die now...

    CIA Director Mike Pompeo: Iran, Hezbollah Are in Venezuela

    As for snipers in buildings....where have I seen that before?

    I like this new CIA head. He talks a lot and projects a lot with his comments...

    Everyone is in Venezuela......including America's vassel states in the region (extensive list)/Europe (Spain/France/Germany)/Middle-East=Israel/Saudi Arabia.

    Edit: more on RT's article:

    We are very hopeful that there can be a transition in Venezuela and we the CIA is doing its best to understand the dynamic there, so that we can communicate to our State Department and to others.”

    Hehe...
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    Post  nomadski Mon Aug 14, 2017 4:53 pm

    Make America great again . Like great Britania . The hemmpire . I still get goose pimply , thinking about the greatness of the great great British ( American ) hemmpire ! Quick get me an excuse ! A pretext . I need another medal . And you need your profits . What? There isn't one ? Don't be stupid . There is always a pretext . Just say that guy over there , what's his name , got bad fashion sense . Needs a makeover . Remember make America great again ........

    It is a habitual thing . The culture of imperialism , can not be negotiated with . It is not amenable to dialogue . It will not be satisfied with less . It will absolutely not stop . Until he has it all . Or nothing . Like a habitual gambler in Las Vegas casino .

    So they want to start a war with Korea and Venezuela and China and Iran and .........simultaneously ? What a wonderful idea . But oooops ! They know now ! They may not attack simultaneously . Darned ! We may just have to make sure that they do . Yes you need balls for this . But what is the alternative ? Being picked off one by one ? I think Kim and ....and ....and ........need to see each other . Arrange for a musketeer pact . One for all ........and you know the rest . A simultaneous defence against the yank . Help make America great again . The greatest fail in the world . Now where is that phone ? .........

    The yanks pick on people . One by one . At a time of weakness . Internal political turmoil . An opportunity . They then get the other bullies , their mates ( NATO allies ) to join in . To beat up on the little guy . Why don't we make a military defence pact ? Of all the non aligned nations . Give it a snazzy name .Like : NAMTO ! The non aligned military treaty organisations .

    Not everyone has nukes to deter yanks . So yanks simply use superior conventional forces to bully smaller nations . But pooling resources and acting together . Will nullify their advantage . Good on Venezuela to carry out defensive maneuvers . Perhaps others can join in and carry out simultaneous maneuvers too !

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    Post  ATLASCUB Tue May 15, 2018 9:40 pm

    Document (scroll down): http://www.portalalba.org/index.php/areas/internacional-geopolitica/imperialismo/16887-el-momento-ha-llegado-el-plan-unitas-lix-seria-el-golpe-final-contra-venezuela

    Write up: https://libya360.wordpress.com/2018/05/13/masterstroke-the-us-plan-to-overthrow-the-venezuelan-government/

    One of many they've drafted...CIA/State Dept have the actual "masterstroke" (different obv) carrying out most of what they actually can along the same lines - same objective.

    The opinion of the admiral and his cohorts who helped him draft it are always a good read since the ones drafted by CIA analyst are just as bad and are actually acted upon.

    For those that are still blind to the fact of what's actually going on and fall for simplistic media narratives.

    One thing to point out is that the military option is not too different from the one applied to Syria. Although I still think a military option will be a massive mistake for them - not so much the U.S short term, but for their lackies whose grip on power will deteriorate (despite the initial strengthening that comes with it). Both Temer and Macri will in one way or another sink.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Mon May 21, 2018 8:23 am

    Ok, Maduro won. What's next?
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    Post  George1 Mon May 21, 2018 9:49 am

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Ok, Maduro won. What's next?

    civil war maybe?
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    Post  George1 Sun Aug 05, 2018 10:42 am

    Seven people injured in Venezuelan president’s murder attempt

    Nicolas Maduro was not injured

    MOSCOW, August 5. /TASS/. Seven people have been injured in Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro’s murder attempt; the president himself was not injured, Venezuela’s Communications Minister Jorge Rodriguez said, according to the Venezuelan radio station Union Radio.

    "President Maduro was not injured in the murder attempt," the web site of the radio station quoted the minister as saying. "Unfortunately, seven staff members were injured." "He is working as usual," Rodriguez said.

    "Keep calm, our President Nicolas Maduro is well, as are all the political and military top revolutionary government," head of the Bicentenario Del Pueblo bank Miguel Perez Abad tweeted.

    The attempted murder of the head of state was carried out with the use of drones carrying explosives. They were activated while Maduro was speaking at the ceremony for the 81st anniversary of the establishment of the Bolivarian National Guard. The drones were eliminated, the minister said. According to preliminary information, several cadets from the Bolivarian National Guard were injured.

    Rodriguez also reported that Maduro addressed the people a few minutes later.


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    Post  George1 Sun Aug 05, 2018 10:43 am

    Venezuelan president blames Colombian president for his attempted murder

    "Everything indicates to the rights, the Venezuelan far-rights together with the Colombian far-rights", Maduro said

    TASS, August 5. Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro has blamed Colombian President Juan Manuel Santos for involvement in his attempted murder.

    "Everything indicates to the rights, the Venezuelan far-rights together with the Colombian far-rights, and the name of Juan Manuel Santos is behind this attempted murder," Maduro said in a televised national address broadcasted by state television.

    The Venezuelan leader added that he was calm during the incident, as he fully trusts the nation and the armed forces. "And God protects me, so I am alive and I win," Maduro said.

    Venezuelan Communications Minister Jorge Rodriguez earlier said that Maduro’s attempted murder was committed with the use of several drones with explosives. They were activated while the head of state was delivering his speech at the ceremony for the 81st anniversary of the establishment of the Bolivarian National Guard. Rodriguez specified that seven law enforcement officers were injured and the drones were eliminated. Neither the state leader, not the top government officials were injured in the explosion, he said.


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    Post  George1 Sun Aug 05, 2018 1:23 pm

    Moscow strongly condemns Venezuelan leader’s assassination attempt

    The Russian Foreign Ministry said that these steps are aimed at destabilizing the situation in the country


    MOSCOW, August 5. /TASS/. Moscow strongly condemns the assassination attempt against Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro, stressing that these steps are aimed at destabilizing the situation in the country, the Russian Foreign Ministry said in a statement on Sunday.

    "We strongly condemn the assassination attempt against the Venezuelan president carried out on August 4 this year, in which seven people were wounded," the ministry said, stressing that "it is absolutely unacceptable to use the methods of terrorists as tools of political struggle."

    "It is obvious that these steps are designed to destabilize the situation in the country after the recent session of the United Socialist Party of Venezuela, which outlined priority steps on restoring national economy," the ministry said. "We are convinced that political disagreements should be settled only by peaceful and democratic means."

    The ministry expressed solidarity with the Venezuelan people and also wished a speedy recovery to those injured in the attack.

    Venezuelan Communications Minister Jorge Rodriguez earlier said that Maduro’s assassination attempt was committed with the use of several drones packed with explosives. They detonated while the head of state was delivering his speech at the ceremony for the 81st anniversary of the Bolivarian National Guard’s establishment. Seven law enforcement officers were injured. Neither the state leader nor the top government officials were injured in the explosion, he said.

    The Venezuelan president said several participants of his attempted murder were detained and accused the Colombian leader of being behind the plot. Maduro also said some those who planned to kill him live in the United States.


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    Post  George1 Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:40 am

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    Post  Vann7 Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:55 pm

    What the next news tells me..

    Is that NATO will go now full terrorism ,vs Venezuela ,and will use their navy seals
    and British Naval special forces ,to sabotage the navigation and even sink merchant ship of any nation
    who try to trade with Venezuela.. So if Cuba send merchant ships to venezuela ,those can be intercepted
    and sinked. They also could train and recruit bandits and criminals to operate on the surface and they provide support underwater with special submarines.  If people remember that the original pirates ,were mercenary
    terrorist that British Government recruited to attack Spain gold cargo ships.. and to destabilize or steal territory
    away from Spain.. This is a repeat of what british terrorist Government did in the 1700s,, this time is not again
    Spain but Venezuela..  and the Lying neo liberal Propaganda media , blaming it on "Venezuela crisis" . that is
    externally created by US sanctions and blackmail on Latin countries to not trade with Venezuela. We will live in
    a different world today ,had society was better informed of how incredibly dangerous ,to their nations own existence to allow countries like US and UK to take control of their sovereignty and policies. Tyrannical powers can only exist when society is ignorant and weak and give away their power to others. If i were to guess ,this looks like
    British Government .. will be the one more active , desestabilizing the navigation between Carribean with Venezuela.. they are the one more desperate to find ways how to attack Russia and its allies.. because there is a major risk in play if US navy is caught being behind this piracy , as they are doing in Somalia coast . This news
    is major big event ,that people should not understimate , is a declaration of war against Venezuela maritime commerce. even if they dont capture ships , the terror they can inflict in the zone ,can dissuade small nations nations from trading by sea with Venezuela. Russia will have to deploy a naval base in Venezuela to help capture
    NATO naval special forces , from block navigation in the zone to Venezuela. So stay tune ,because there will be kidnapped vessels in the zone by this NATO funded mercenaries. in a matter of time.  the perfect place to hide this terrorist will be the hundreds of small islands in the zone.


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    Post  George1 Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:32 pm

    Venezuelan Armed Forces swear allegiance to President Maduro

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    According to TASS unconditional loyalty to the President of Venezuela, Nicolas Maduro confirmed the armed forces of the country. “We recognize you as our commander in chief,” said the Minister of Defense of the Bolivarian Republic, Vladimir Padrino Lopez. Thus, he responded to the appeal to the army of the chairman of the opposition-controlled Venezuelan parliament, Juan Guaydo, who demanded that he disobey the head of state. Maduro was re-elected in May 2018, and on January 10, 2019 he took office. The opposition called him a usurper. On January 4, the so-called “group of Lima” considered that Maduro’s election for a new presidential term in Venezuela did not meet international standards. The document was signed by Argentina, Brazil, Guyana, Guatemala, Honduras, Canada, Colombia, Costa Rica, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Saint Lucia and Chile. They called on Maduro not to take office as president of Venezuela and hand over the executive power to the National Assembly (Parliament) of the South American country.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:35 am

    The United States are preparing a war between Latin-American states
    by Thierry Meyssan

    Little by little, the partisans of the Cebrowski doctrine are advancing their pawns. If they must cease creating wars in the Greater Middle East, they’ll just turn around and inflame the Caribbean Basin. Above all, the Pentagon is planning to assassinate an elected head of state, ruin his country, and undermine the unity of Latin-America.

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    Speaking before the anti-Castro community at Miami Dade College, John Bolton denounced
    « This tyrannical troïka, spreading from Havana to Caracas via Managua,
    [which] is the cause of immense human suffering, the motor for huge regional instability,
    and the genesis of a squalid nest of Communism in the Western hemisphere ».



    John Bolton, the new US National Security Advisor, has relaunched the Pentagon’s project for the destruction of the State structures in the Caribbean Basin.

    We remember that in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, the Secretary for Defense at that time, Donald Rumsfeld, created the Office of Force Transformation and nominated Admiral Arthur Cebrowski as its Director. Its mission was to train the US army for its new role in the era of financial globalisation. It was designed to change military culture in order to destroy the State structures of the regions which were not connected to the global economy. The first chapter of this plan consisted of dislocating the « Greater Middle East ». The second stage was intended to perform the same task in the « Caribbean Basin ». The plan was designed to destroy some twenty coastal and insular States, with the exception of Colombia, Mexico and as far as possible, territories belonging to the United Kingdom, the United States, France and Holland.

    When he arrived at the White House, President Donald Trump opposed the Cebrowski plan. However, two years later, he has so far only been able to prevent the Pentagon and NATO from handing over States to the terrorist groups they employ (the « Caliphate »), but not to stop manipulating terrorism. Concerning the Greater Middle East, he has managed to diminish the tension, but the wars still continue there at lower intensity. Concerning the Caribbean Basin, he restrained the Pentagon, forbidding them to launch direct military operations.

    Last May, Stella Calloni revealed a note from Admiral Kurt Tidd, Commander in Chief of SouthCom, exposing the operations aimed at Venezuela [1]. A second penetration was simultaneously implemented in Nicaragua, and a third, running for the last half century, against Cuba.

    Working from several previous analyses, we concluded that the destabilisation of Venezuela - beginning with the guarimbas movement, continued by the attempted coup d’etat of February 2015 (Operation Jericho) [2], then by attacks on the national currency and the organisation of emigration - would end with military operations [3] led from Brazil, Colombia and Guyana. Multinational manoeuvres of troop transport were organised by the United States and their allies in August 2017 [4]. This was made possible by the election of pro-Israëli President Jair Bolsonaro, who will come to power in Brasilia on 1 January 2019.

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    Brazilian Vice-President Hamilton Mourão with President Jair Bolsonaro.

    The next Vice-President of Brazil will be General Hamilton Mourão, whose father played an important role in the pro-US military coup d’etat of 1964. He has made himself famous by his declarations against Presidents Lula and Rousseff. In 2017, he declared – on behalf of the Grand Orient of Brazil – that the time for a new military coup d’etat had arrived. Finally, he was re-elected with President Bolsonaro. In an interview with the magazine Piaui, he announced an impending overthrow of the Venezuelan President, Nicolás Maduro, and the deployment of a Brazilian « peace » force (sic). Faced with the gravity of these statements, which constitute a violation of the United Nations Charter, elected President Bolsonaro declared that no-one had any intention of going to war with anyone, and that his Vice-President talked too much.

    In any case, during a Press conference on 12 December 2018, President Maduro revealed that US National Security Advisor John Bolton was handling the coordination between the teams of Colombian President Iván Duque and those of the Brazilian Vice-President. A group of 734 mercenaries is currently being trained in Tona (Colombia) in order to perpetrate a false flag attack, allegedly by Venezuela, against Colombia – thereby justifying a Colombian war against Venezuela. The war would be under the command of Colonel Oswaldo Valentín García Palomo, who is today in hiding after the attempted assassination by drone of President Maduro during the anniversary of the National Guard on 4 August 2018. These mercenaries are supported by Special Forces stationed on US military bases in Tolemaida (Colombia) and Eglin (Florida). The US plan is to take over, from the beginning of the conflict, the three Venezuelan Libertador military bases of Palo Negro, Puerto Cabello and Barcelona.

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    The US National Security Council is attempting to convince various states not to recognise Nicolás Maduro’s second mandate (he was re-elected last May, but will assume power with the New Year). This is why the states of the Lima Group contested the Presidential ballot even before it took place, and illegally forbade Venezuelan consulates from organising it. Furthermore, the migration crisis turns out to be just one more manipulation – many of the Venezuelans who fled the monetary crisis believing that they would easily find work in another Latin-American country are today trying to return home. But the Lima Group prevents them from doing so, forbidding Venezuelan planes who are attempting to repatriate them to use their air space, as well as interdicting the buses which have come to help them cross the borders.

    Everything is therefore happening as if we were watching a remake of the events which bloodied the Greater Middle East after the attacks of 11 September 2001. The main point is not the military actions, but the appearance of disorder that the events present. First of all, it’s intended to confuse people into making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear [5]. In the space of five years, Venezuela and Nicaragua, which used to enjoy a positive image abroad, are now being wrongly described as « failed states ». While the history of the Sandinistas and their struggle against the Somoza dictatorship has not yet been re-written, it is taken for granted that Hugo Chávez Frías was a « Communist dictator » (sic), despite the fact that his country experienced a massive economical and political leap forward during his Presidency. It will soon become possible to destroy these states without anyone complaining.

    Time is passing more and more rapidly. When, in 1823, US President James Monroe decided to close the Americas to European colonisation, he could not have imagined that 50 years later his decision would morph into an affirmation of US imperialism. Just as today, when President Donald Trump declared, on the day of his investiture, that the time for régime change was over, he did not imagine that he would be betrayed by his own people. Nonetheless, on 1 November 2018, his Security Advisor John Bolton declared in Miami that Cuba, Nicaragua and Venezuela formed a « troïka of tyranny ». Then his Secretary of Defense, General James Mattis, affirmed on 1 December, before the Reagan National Defense Forum, that elected President Maduro is an « irresponsible despot » who « has to go » [6].

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:11 pm

    Brazil, Argentina step up pressure on Venezuela's Maduro

    The United States begins a coup in Venezuela
    https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2555632.html
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:00 pm

    Things are heating up. I personally would not give damn if Maduro has to go.
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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:10 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Things are heating up. I personally would not give damn if Maduro has to go.

    Agreed

    That whole crew takes the cake for incompetence

    Seriously, not a single hint of diversification from oil

    And how the hell do you run out of food in Central America with access to ocean?
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:11 pm

    ... and tropical climate on top of that. DPRK is in better shape, Cuba is too. Neither have oil, one has a much worse clomate.
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    Post  GarryB Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:24 pm

    Things are heating up. I personally would not give damn if Maduro has to go.

    Well I disagree... the US clearly wants Maduro out and you can bet your ass it is not because they care about democracy or the Venezuelan people or any bullshit like that...

    The fact that the US wants this guy out of office is reason enough to fight for him to stay.

    BTW Venezuela is not a communist country and the food industry has not been nationalised... if there is a problem with food production or distribution then it is an artificial problem created to achieve political ends... capitalism fails a population again... no surprise...
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:33 pm

    This time more is at stake than just geopolitical alignment. A different president, even a US-backed one, is still better than Maduro & Co. It doesn't take a genius to understand what has happened to that country and what will happen if they keep ruling.
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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:23 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    Things are heating up. I personally would not give damn if Maduro has to go.


    The fact that the US wants this guy out of office is reason enough to fight for him to stay....

    His incompetence is reason enough to drop him. Unless Russia wants the entire Venezuelan population to despise them for helping keep this idiot in power.

    Not that it matters in the long run given the location but still...

    GarryB wrote:BTW Venezuela is not a communist country and the food industry has not been nationalised... if there is a problem with food production or distribution then it is an artificial problem created to achieve political ends... capitalism fails a population again... no surprise...

    If you have food then communism is best way to end up with no food.

    If you don't have food then communism is best way to starve to death.

    Venezuela doesn't have food so it's best not to tempt fate because it will end horribly as always.
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    Post  higurashihougi Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:07 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    GarryB wrote:
    Things are heating up. I personally would not give damn if Maduro has to go.


    The fact that the US wants this guy out of office is reason enough to fight for him to stay....

    His incompetence is reason enough to drop him. Unless Russia wants the entire Venezuelan population to despise them for helping keep this idiot in power.

    Not that it matters in the long run given the location but still...

    The fact that the US wants this guy out of office means, the oppositions have plenty of US's cronies who are eager to sell Venezuela to the US rather than fix the problems of the country.

    I am not a hardcore fan of the Chavismo but then if Maduro have to step down then you have to seriously think about who will replace him. Somebody who are able to fix the issues, not someone who are controlled by CIA.

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