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    IRAN: Latest and Breaking News

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    Post  lulldapull Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:28 am

    You wish that was the case. And these Pollock's and the French, Spaniards, Austrians.......you name it are all queuing up steadily in a bee line to do business with Iran.  Poland is a new comer to this frenzy. They have sweet fuck all to offer compared to the others.

    From all angles, Iran/ Russia/ China are the core of the axis of resistance. This won't change, no matter what. And FYI, both Russia and China struggled to get Iran off the shit list. It is these two who will benefit the most after sanctions are lifted.

    sepheronx wrote:http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13940704000917

    Well, I think I was right about Iran.  I think that they used Russia.  Now they are trying to really bolster ties with Russia's well known enemy, Poland.

    Sad and pathetic.  I think the Russians and Chinese should have known better.  They both defended Iran to the upmost in the negotiations and this is how Iran pays Russia back?
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    Post  sepheronx Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:59 pm

    http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151007/1028168569/iran-khamenei-negotiations-us.html
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    Post  George1 Mon Oct 19, 2015 10:40 pm

    Waves of Change: Iran Expects Flood of Tourists After Lifting of Sanctions

    The moderate policy of the country’s president as well as the easing of visa restrictions will facilitate the return of tourists to Iran.

    Iran is a country full of historical and cultural sites and has a lot to offer in terms of tourism. The country has 19 registered UNESCO cultural heritage sites.

    Its historic heritage has long attracted people worldwide and the lifting of the sanctions imposed by the US and the EU will definitely make Iran a favorite tourist destination once again, Iranian Vice President Masoud Soltanifar said.

    "In the post-sanctions era, tourism is an industry that will get a boost more than any other sector," Soltanifar said in an interview with the AP, adding that his country is preparing for a "tsunami" of foreign tourists.

    The politician argued that the influx of tourists would help country out of economic decline and would make it more attractive for foreign investors.

    Over the past two years, even before the abolition of the sanctions, the number of foreign tourists increased by 12%. Half of the foreigners visiting the country are Shiite Muslims, the other half are tourists from Europe, North America and East Asia.

    Iranian officials are currently trying to simplify the procedure for obtaining a visa to the country. For citizens of 190 countries, tourist visas can be issued at the airport upon arrival in Tehran. The document gives tourists the right to stay in Iran for 30 days, and can later be extended for another 15 days. The authorities plan to introduce electronic visas in early 201

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151019/1028770377/waves-change-iran-tourists-sanctions.html#ixzz3p33GseeJ
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    Post  ShahryarHedayatiSHBA Wed Nov 04, 2015 11:41 am

    Iran Closing Technology Gap With Israel, Military Intelligence Chief Warns


    Haaretz Israeli News Source
    The Military Intelligence chief said Israel and Iran are engaged in a technology war in which the Islamic Republic is rapidly narrowing the quality gap.

    Maj. Gen. Herzl Halevi, speaking at a closed lecture Thursday, added that if the anxiety generated by the videos of Palestinians stabbing Israelis on social media had existed in 1948, Israel would not have won the War of Independence.
    He also revealed that recently, MI abandoned an operation at the last minute because of a letter the corps received from a low-ranking officer in its 8200 signals intelligence unit.
    Halevi was speaking to a few dozen donors and faculty members of the College of Management at the Rothchild Bank in Tel Aviv. It was an uncharacteristic appearance for Halevi, who in the year since he succeeded Aviv Kochavi has maintained a low profile.
    The general did not give a detailed intelligence assessment but delivered remarks that had never been made in public by a top officer in the Israel Defense Forces.
    “If you ask me whether we’ll have a war with Iran over the next 10 years, I’ll give you a surprising answer: We are already at war with Iran,” Halevi said. “We’re having a technological war with Iran. Our engineers are fighting Iranian engineers, today, and it’s becoming increasingly significant.”

    The war, he said, was over intelligence, weapons and military capabilities, and Halevi was pessimistic. “Today we have the advantage. Iran is closing in on it. Since the 1979 revolution, the number of universities and university students in Iran has increased twentyfold, compared with three and a half times for Israel,” Halevi said, adding that enrollment in science, technology, engineering and math in Iran was skyrocketing.
    Halevi touched on the current wave of terror attacks and the difference between the country’s past wars, conducted mainly in border areas, and today’s wars, in which the home front suffers many casualties.
    “The next war will be much worse for the home front,” Halevi said. “In the Yom Kippur War there was one home-front casualty; a FROG missile struck the pilots’ quarters of the Ramat David air base. It was the only casualty on the home front. All the rest were military.”
    He said a main issue in today’s wars was awareness. “It’s not about how many you killed and how many the other side killed, and it’s not about how far you got and where you planted your flag. It’s about the story that the war tells,” he said.
    “All of us, including me and each of you, have for the past month been brainwashing ourselves when we watch those stabbing videos over and over, creating a level of anxiety that, had everyone in the War of Independence been watching the videos of Latrun, San Simon or Nitzanim, it’s not sure we would have been able to keep going.”
    Halevi said it was much harder for MI to develop and retain intelligence sources today than a decade or two ago due to rapid technological change. “The same kilogram of intelligence costs much more than it did 10 years ago. Not only does it cost more, its expiration date is significantly sooner,” he said.
    “Twenty years ago you had an intelligence accomplishment and you were set for the next five to seven years. Today you might have worked really hard, risking people’s lives, carrying out all sorts of maneuvers. You got something, but with the speed at which our world operates and the speed at which technology changes,” the expiry time declines.
    To illustrate this point, the MI chief described efforts to collect intelligence about the Islamic State. He encouraged his audience to not be fooled by the dreadlocks and traditional robes of ISIS operatives. “They use the most cutting-edge technology,” he said. “It’s not carrier pigeons, it’s the most advanced communication systems, with the best encryption on top of that. It changes every couple of days.”
    He said MI’s organizational culture was such that even soldiers and junior officers could have great influence. “We faced a dilemma over whether to carry out a particular operation in a particular place. It was about to go up to the chief of staff for a decision, and we needed to decide whether to do it or not,” he said.
    “An officer enters my office and says, ‘Listen, I want you to read this, it’s a letter from a first lieutenant, a network intelligence officer at a Unit 8200 base.’ He’s a first lieutenant. He writes a letter to the Unit 8200 commander and to the head of MI: ‘Listen, I think you’re making a mistake,’” Halevi said.
    “It's just five minutes before decision time. I might not have read the letter if it arrived one minute later, before the talk with the chief of staff. That’s the ability of people to make an impact at the most critical second of decision-making.”
    Halevi defended the standing army against recent criticism about the size of the defense budget. “There’s a bit of an atmosphere in the country today — maybe you don’t think so — but the officers feel that’s it not so positive toward the army,” he said.
    “I think this is dangerous. I think it comes a bit from the place of the budget. Officers tell me strangers sometimes stop them on the street saying we’re the problem of the Israeli economy. I’d be cautious. It’s better that the best people are involved — in security in general and intelligence in particular.”
    Halevi said he even feared the elimination of mandatory military service in Israel. “The quiet depends on our being strong, and my fear is that we will end the model of a people’s army, and then the IDF won’t accept all of Israeli youth into its ranks and won’t take advantage of the best people,” he said.
    “If we change the model of the people’s army, then in the first two or three years inertia will keep us going, but after that the entire defense establishment will be damaged to the point of damage to the state’s security.”

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    Post  ShahryarHedayatiSHBA Wed Nov 18, 2015 12:17 pm

    Iran Dismisses Allegations on Assisting Taliban



    TEHRAN (FNA)- An expert at the Iranian foreign ministry rejected allegations about the country on assisting the Taliban extremist group.
    "Such claims are unreal," the expert on West Asia affairs said on Wednesday in reaction to allegations raised by a security official in Afghanistan's Farah province on Iran's assistance to the Taliban.

    Stressing Tehran's constructive role in Afghanistan, he said, "The Islamic Republic of Iran has always pursued the approach of supporting peace and stability in Afghanistan and this well shows the country's strategy of fighting against extremism and violence."

    Iranian officials have always underlined full support for the establishment of sustainable peace and security in Afghanistan.

    In relevant remarks in September, Iran's Ambassador to the United Nations in New York Gholam Ali Khoshrou underlined Tehran's determination to do its best to promote peace and tranquility in neighboring Afghanistan.

    "Iran continues its full support for the promotion of security, stability and comprehensive and sustainable development in Afghanistan since we consider the security in Afghanistan to be the security of our borders and the Region," Khoshrou said in a statement presented to the UN Security Council (UNSC) on the situation in Afghanistan.

    http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13940827000472
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Wed Nov 18, 2015 12:31 pm

    ShahryarHedayatiSHBA wrote:Iran Dismisses Allegations on Assisting Taliban



    TEHRAN (FNA)- An expert at the Iranian foreign ministry rejected allegations about the country on assisting the Taliban extremist group.
    "Such claims are unreal," the expert on West Asia affairs said on Wednesday in reaction to allegations raised by a security official in Afghanistan's Farah province on Iran's assistance to the Taliban.

    Stressing Tehran's constructive role in Afghanistan, he said, "The Islamic Republic of Iran has always pursued the approach of supporting peace and stability in Afghanistan and this well shows the country's strategy of fighting against extremism and violence."

    Iranian officials have always underlined full support for the establishment of sustainable peace and security in Afghanistan.

    In relevant remarks in September, Iran's Ambassador to the United Nations in New York Gholam Ali Khoshrou underlined Tehran's determination to do its best to promote peace and tranquility in neighboring Afghanistan.

    "Iran continues its full support for the promotion of security, stability and comprehensive and sustainable development in Afghanistan since we consider the security in Afghanistan to be the security of our borders and the Region," Khoshrou said in a statement presented to the UN Security Council (UNSC) on the situation in Afghanistan.

    http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13940827000472

    Actually Iran might be arming the Hazaras since they're being killed left and right by both sides.
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    Post  ShahryarHedayatiSHBA Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:05 pm



    Russia may produce Sukhoi Superjets in Iran


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    Russia says it is negotiating with Iran over the local production of its Sukhoi Superjets.
    Russian officials say the country is negotiating with Iran over the local production of the Sukhoi Superjet 100 (SSJ 100) airliner to replace the ageing Iranian fleet on regional routes.

    Russia’s Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin says Moscow may deliver a large batch of SSJ 100 planes – described as the country’s most modern commercial jets – to Iran before 2020.

    Rogozin told the Russian media that the batch could comprise about 100 planes.

    The planes can be in part be localized by Iranian producers if Tehran makes the political decision to purchase ready-made aircraft, he told Rossiya 24 TV during a two-day trip to Iran.

    "Last night, one of the largest Iranian airlines held negotiations with UAC on the possible delivery of ready planes within five years. Different digits have been mentioned and I can mention them too - approximately 100 planes," Rogozin added.

    Iran has a shortage of modern aircraft due to the long running sanctions imposed by the West. Local airlines are looking for reliable regional jets to fly domestic routes. The SSJ 100 might be a match for Iran’s needs, with additional options to come along with the prospective deal, RT reported on its website.

    "If Tehran agrees to purchase the Superjet, we will discuss partial localization of production in Iran," RT has quoted Rogozin as telling Russia’s TASS news agency.

    Sukhoi Superjet 100 is Russia’s newest twin-engine regional passenger aircraft which began operating commercially in 2011. More than 60 aircraft are in service with airlines in Laos, Mexico, and Russia.

    Last month, France-KLM's CityJet signed a deal with Sukhoi to purchase 15 SSJ 100 planes worth over $1 billion. Sukhoi has also sold three SSJ 100s to Thailand and one to Kazakhstan.

    According to Minister of Roads and Urban Development Abbas Akhundi, Iran will need to buy 400 long- and medium-haul jets and at least 100 planes for use in local airports at a cost of $50 billion.

    PressTV-Russia may produce Sukhoi Superjets in Iran
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    Post  GarryB Sat Nov 21, 2015 11:18 am

    This would be good news for both Russian and Iran.

    Russia could use solid sales of commercial aircraft and Iran could use good reliable cheap airliners that are sanction proof...
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    Post  Guest Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:34 pm

    Russian President Vladimir Putin has signed a decree lifting the ban on supplying Iran with uranium enrichment equipment. It is linked to Russia importing enriched uranium from Iran, according to the official government website. The Russian President is visiting Tehran to take part in Gas Exporting Countries Forum summit, and is holding talks on Monday with Iranian President Hassan Rouhani and the country's Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei.

    The decision to export low-enriched uranium from Iran to Russia was reached in the framework of the agreement between Iran and the six international mediators in July. According to the deal, Tehran must get rid of 98 percent of its enriched uranium. Iran also agreed not to enrich uranium by more than 3.67 percent for 15 years and to possess no more than 300 kilograms of the material."

    Copy of the document: http://publication.pravo.gov.ru/Document/View/0001201511230027?index=0&rangeSize=1

    Source: https://www.rt.com/business/323072-putin-iran-uranium-import/
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    Post  Solncepek Wed Dec 30, 2015 10:43 am

    Iranian Rocket Splashes Down Near US Aircraft Carrier In Straits Of Hormuz

    An Iranian rocket landed just 1,500 yards off the starboard side of the the Nimitz Class super carrier USS Harry S. Truman during its recent transit through the Straits of Hormuz, serving as another reminder of how easily things in the Persian Gulf could go from a tense calm to a shooting war with Iran.

    The carrier, along with the cruiser USS Buckley and a French frigate, were nearing the end of their transit through the straits when suddenly the Iranian Revolutionary Guards came on the radio saying they were executing a small boat rocket firing exercise. The aircraft carrier and escorts had no time to deviate from their course. Even if they had, there is little room in the narrow and crowded Strait for evasive action.

    If that rocket were to have struck the carrier, it could have set off a chain reaction of explosions on its deck. Even if it were to have impacted the ship’s island or areas of its hull it could have resulted in the loss of life and would have almost certainly resulted in retaliation.

    NBC News reports that officials were quick to downplay the event, saying that the rocket was not fired at the carrier, only near it, and then goes on to say that the move was an unnecessary provocation and unsafe.

    It is unclear exactly what the rules of engagement are under these types of circumstances, although being fired upon should clearly be grounds for return fire. It is likely that the commander made the call not to react at the time, although this call may have not been a clear one to make. It all depends on where the fast-boat was when it launched the rocket in relation to the carrier and the path rocket traveled before landing in the water.

    Another unanswered question is what were the state of the ship’s close-in defenses at the time of the launch. 1500 meters is well within their reach, it just depends on what mode they were in (if they were activated at all) and what the trajectory of the missile was.

    In the end it is a good thing we are not currently at war with Iran over a rocket that fell into the sea—but the question remains: what was the Revolutionary Guard’s aim with executing such a provocative act? Sure it was a reminder of how vulnerable America’s ships can be while passing through the “fatal funnel” that is the Straits of Hormuz, but is sending a reminder worth the possibility of a shooting war?

    The Straits of Hormuz has long been one of the world’s most notorious hot spots. Just last May, U.S. Navy ships had to escort American flagged vessels through the Straits of Hormuz after Iranian gunboats seized the Maersk Tigris. Since then the area has been relatively quiet.

    It is no secret that the Iranian military detests American aircraft carriers operating in the Gulf, and has built an extensive battle doctrine around attacking one. Maybe the Iranian leadership has now decided that the Obama Administration has too much at stake in the region, especially in regards to the Iranian nuclear deal, and will be unwilling to risk a confrontation due to harassment by IRGC forces.

    These types of incidents are known to work as something of a pressure-valve for keeping hardliners in the Iranian government and military satisfied, even while Iran has openly engaged in dialogue with the U.S. at the same time. It could also be a sign of something much more sinister. Either way, this single rocket may be the beginning of increased harassment by Iranian vessels operating in and around the straits.

    The USS Harry S. Truman has since made its way safely to its station in the Persian Gulf alongside the French carrier Charles De Gaulle and has begun executing airstrikes against ISIS in Iraq and Syria.
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    Post  flamming_python Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:19 pm

    Solncepek wrote:Iranian Rocket Splashes Down Near US Aircraft Carrier In Straits Of Hormuz

    An Iranian rocket landed just 1,500 yards off the starboard side of the the Nimitz Class super carrier USS Harry S. Truman during its recent transit through the Straits of Hormuz, serving as another reminder of how easily things in the Persian Gulf could go from a tense calm to a shooting war with Iran.

    The carrier, along with the cruiser USS Buckley and a French frigate, were nearing the end of their transit through the straits when suddenly the Iranian Revolutionary Guards came on the radio saying they were executing a small boat rocket firing exercise. The aircraft carrier and escorts had no time to deviate from their course. Even if they had, there is little room in the narrow and crowded Strait for evasive action.

    If that rocket were to have struck the carrier, it could have set off a chain reaction of explosions on its deck. Even if it were to have impacted the ship’s island or areas of its hull it could have resulted in the loss of life and would have almost certainly resulted in retaliation.

    NBC News reports that officials were quick to downplay the event, saying that the rocket was not fired at the carrier, only near it, and then goes on to say that the move was an unnecessary provocation and unsafe.

    It is unclear exactly what the rules of engagement are under these types of circumstances, although being fired upon should clearly be grounds for return fire. It is likely that the commander made the call not to react at the time, although this call may have not been a clear one to make. It all depends on where the fast-boat was when it launched the rocket in relation to the carrier and the path rocket traveled before landing in the water.

    Another unanswered question is what were the state of the ship’s close-in defenses at the time of the launch. 1500 meters is well within their reach, it just depends on what mode they were in (if they were activated at all) and what the trajectory of the missile was.

    In the end it is a good thing we are not currently at war with Iran over a rocket that fell into the sea—but the question remains: what was the Revolutionary Guard’s aim with executing such a provocative act? Sure it was a reminder of how vulnerable America’s ships can be while passing through the “fatal funnel” that is the Straits of Hormuz, but is sending a reminder worth the possibility of a shooting war?

    The Straits of Hormuz has long been one of the world’s most notorious hot spots. Just last May, U.S. Navy ships had to escort American flagged vessels through the Straits of Hormuz after Iranian gunboats seized the Maersk Tigris. Since then the area has been relatively quiet.

    It is no secret that the Iranian military detests American aircraft carriers operating in the Gulf, and has built an extensive battle doctrine around attacking one. Maybe the Iranian leadership has now decided that the Obama Administration has too much at stake in the region, especially in regards to the Iranian nuclear deal, and will be unwilling to risk a confrontation due to harassment by IRGC forces.

    These types of incidents are known to work as something of a pressure-valve for keeping hardliners in the Iranian government and military satisfied, even while Iran has openly engaged in dialogue with the U.S. at the same time. It could also be a sign of something much more sinister. Either way, this single rocket may be the beginning of increased harassment by Iranian vessels operating in and around the straits.

    The USS Harry S. Truman has since made its way safely to its station in the Persian Gulf alongside the French carrier Charles De Gaulle and has begun executing airstrikes against ISIS in Iraq and Syria.

    What a bunch of morons. What if the rocket had deviated from its course and smashed into a US Navy ship in international waters? What then?
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    Post  max steel Thu Dec 31, 2015 7:09 pm

    Here’s an update on the “Iran Fires Rockets 1,500 Yards Away From A US Aircraft Carrier” article.


    “Iran’s IRGC categorically denies conducting any military exercises, including a launch of any rockets in the Strait of Hormuz, on or around the date claimed by the American propaganda machine.”


    Someone is definitely lying here, but who?


    An aircraft carrier and its large number of escorts are all equipped with cameras recording their surroundings 24/7 and none of them captured the rocket launch?


    Is it possible that the “unnamed U.S. military official” mistook a flare, a single firework, or his own fart for the “firing off several unguided rockets”?
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    Post  GarryB Fri Jan 01, 2016 9:45 am

    What a bunch of morons. What if the rocket had deviated from its course and smashed into a US Navy ship in international waters? What then?

    I believe based on the results of the last incident in the region if an Iranian missile hit a US warship that standard procedure should be for the captain of the Iranian ship responsible to get a medal along with his weapons officer... for the Iranian government to claim it was all Americas fault and claim to be the victim in all this.
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    Post  KiloGolf Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:17 am

    10 U.S. sailors in Iranian custody

    Washington (CNN)Ten American sailors were being held in Iranian custody after two small U.S. naval craft apparently briefly entered Iranian territorial waters, a U.S. senior defense official said Tuesday.

    The official, however, expects the situation to be resolved quickly. A senior administration official said there is nothing to indicate this was anything hostile on the part of any entity in Iran, adding that the U.S. has received high-level assurances that the sailors will be released promptly.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/12/politics/10-u-s-sailors-in-iranian-custody/
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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:33 am

    KiloGolf wrote:
    10 U.S. sailors in Iranian custody

    Washington (CNN)Ten American sailors were being held in Iranian custody after two small U.S. naval craft apparently briefly entered Iranian territorial waters, a U.S. senior defense official said Tuesday.

    The official, however, expects the situation to be resolved quickly. A senior administration official said there is nothing to indicate this was anything hostile on the part of any entity in Iran, adding that the U.S. has received high-level assurances that the sailors will be released promptly.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/12/politics/10-u-s-sailors-in-iranian-custody/

    WWTD? (what would turkey do?)
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    Post  sepheronx Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:43 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    KiloGolf wrote:
    10 U.S. sailors in Iranian custody

    Washington (CNN)Ten American sailors were being held in Iranian custody after two small U.S. naval craft apparently briefly entered Iranian territorial waters, a U.S. senior defense official said Tuesday.

    The official, however, expects the situation to be resolved quickly. A senior administration official said there is nothing to indicate this was anything hostile on the part of any entity in Iran, adding that the U.S. has received high-level assurances that the sailors will be released promptly.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/12/politics/10-u-s-sailors-in-iranian-custody/

    WWTD? (what would turkey do?)

    Probably Drown them.
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    Post  max steel Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:55 am

    "U.S. officials said that the incident happened near Farsi Island in the middle of the Gulf. They said some type of mechanical trouble with one of the boats caused them to drift into Iranian territorial waters near the island, and they were picked up by Iran."



    So the Navy is sticking with the "mechanical trouble" story
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    Post  KiloGolf Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:19 pm



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    Pictures are out there, these were actually CB-90s, in the middle of Persian Gulf where they should not be.
    What where they doing there? USN is in dire need of some FACs or small corvettes, fast.

    patrolling such an area with CB-90s is recipe for disaster. dunno
    unless they were providing force protection for larger vessel against the assymetric IRGC fast-boat navy. Still a big WTF regarding this news.



    PS. Seems like IRI is keeping them boats. Just wow
    PS2.nah false alarm, both boats are under US control

    The sailors were later taken ashore by U.S. Navy aircraft, while other sailors took charge of the boats and headed towards Bahrain, their original destination.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2016/01/13/us-usa-iran-boat-comment-idUSKCN0UR0K120160113
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    Post  short_fuze Wed Jan 13, 2016 7:38 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:

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    Pictures are out there, these were actually CB-90s, in the middle of Persian Gulf where they should not be.
    What where they doing there? USN is in dire need of some FACs or small corvettes, fast.

    patrolling such an area with CB-90s is recipe for disaster. dunno
    unless they were providing force protection for larger vessel against the assymetric IRGC fast-boat navy. Still a big WTF regarding this news.



    PS. Seems like IRI is keeping them boats. Just wow
    PS2.nah false alarm, both boats are under US control

    The sailors were later taken ashore by U.S. Navy aircraft, while other sailors took charge of the boats and headed towards Bahrain, their original destination.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2016/01/13/us-usa-iran-boat-comment-idUSKCN0UR0K120160113

    This story carries a large whiff of lutefisk.

    The vessel was supposedly travelling between Kuwait and Bahrain. The shortest distance is about 220 miles between the very south of Kuwait and the very north of Bahrain. The CB-90 has a range of 240 miles. That is not a lot of leeway should something go wrong. The island of Farsi lies a minimum of about 50 miles (80 km) from this route. The sea currents in this part of the Gulf are about 1 km / hour from south west, so the vessel would have to have drifted for about 80 hours to reach Farsi. Farsi itself is only 500 metres across, so that it is remarkable that they reached it by chance assuming the Kuwait - Bahrain story is true.

    Alternatively perhaps the CB-90 was investigating other islands in the vicinity. The nearest is about 20 km (15 miles) south west of Farsi - which is the right direction for drift, but still 20 hours drifting away.

    The crew was sailing somewhere for some purpose. The enginne breaks down or they run out of fuel. Surely the first thing they would do is call for help. What is the range to the nearest US naval vessel with a helicopter? A few hundred miles? So the helicopter would take a couple of hours to get to them. In the meanwhile they would have drifted a couple of km, hitting Farsi in this case. That means the vessel was in Iranian waters at the time of the engine failure or fuel shortage.

    In short it seems the crew entered Iranian territorial waters on purpose, either to test Iranian response or to distract Iran from some other activity.
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    Post  KiloGolf Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:01 pm

    short_fuze wrote:
    KiloGolf wrote:

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    Pictures are out there, these were actually CB-90s, in the middle of Persian Gulf where they should not be.
    What where they doing there? USN is in dire need of some FACs or small corvettes, fast.

    patrolling such an area with CB-90s is recipe for disaster. dunno
    unless they were providing force protection for larger vessel against the assymetric IRGC fast-boat navy. Still a big WTF regarding this news.



    PS. Seems like IRI is keeping them boats. Just wow
    PS2.nah false alarm, both boats are under US control

    The sailors were later taken ashore by U.S. Navy aircraft, while other sailors took charge of the boats and headed towards Bahrain, their original destination.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2016/01/13/us-usa-iran-boat-comment-idUSKCN0UR0K120160113

    This story carries a large whiff of lutefisk.

    The vessel was supposedly travelling between Kuwait and Bahrain. The shortest distance is about 220 miles between the very south of Kuwait and the very north of Bahrain. The CB-90 has a range of 240 miles. That is not a lot of leeway should something go wrong. The island of Farsi lies a minimum of about 50 miles (80 km) from this route. The sea currents in this part of the Gulf are about 1 km / hour from south west, so the vessel would have to have drifted for about 80 hours to reach Farsi. Farsi itself is only 500 metres across, so that it is remarkable that they reached it by chance assuming the Kuwait - Bahrain story is true.

    Alternatively perhaps the CB-90 was investigating other islands in the vicinity. The nearest is about 20 km (15 miles) south west of Farsi - which is the right direction for drift, but still 20 hours drifting away.

    The crew was sailing somewhere for some purpose. The enginne breaks down or they run out of fuel. Surely the first thing they would do is call for help. What is the range to the nearest US naval vessel with a helicopter? A few hundred miles? So the helicopter would take a couple of hours to get to them. In the meanwhile they would have drifted a couple of km, hitting Farsi in this case. That means the vessel was in Iranian waters at the time of the engine failure or fuel shortage.

    In short it seems the crew entered Iranian territorial waters on purpose, either to test Iranian response or to distract Iran from some other activity.

    Be that as it may, I don't rule out the crew making a huge mistake while escorting a larger vessel.
    Iranians gave them back swiftly with no problems compared to the RN folks back 07.
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    Post  short_fuze Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:05 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:
    short_fuze wrote:
    KiloGolf wrote:

    IRAN: Latest and Breaking News - Page 5 CYl5ewMU0AEBLGV

    Pictures are out there, these were actually CB-90s, in the middle of Persian Gulf where they should not be.
    What where they doing there? USN is in dire need of some FACs or small corvettes, fast.

    patrolling such an area with CB-90s is recipe for disaster. dunno
    unless they were providing force protection for larger vessel against the assymetric IRGC fast-boat navy. Still a big WTF regarding this news.



    PS. Seems like IRI is keeping them boats. Just wow
    PS2.nah false alarm, both boats are under US control

    The sailors were later taken ashore by U.S. Navy aircraft, while other sailors took charge of the boats and headed towards Bahrain, their original destination.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2016/01/13/us-usa-iran-boat-comment-idUSKCN0UR0K120160113

    This story carries a large whiff of lutefisk.

    The vessel was supposedly travelling between Kuwait and Bahrain. The shortest distance is about 220 miles between the very south of Kuwait and the very north of Bahrain. The CB-90 has a range of 240 miles. That is not a lot of leeway should something go wrong. The island of Farsi lies a minimum of about 50 miles (80 km) from this route. The sea currents in this part of the Gulf are about 1 km / hour from south west, so the vessel would have to have drifted for about 80 hours to reach Farsi. Farsi itself is only 500 metres across, so that it is remarkable that they reached it by chance assuming the Kuwait - Bahrain story is true.

    Alternatively perhaps the CB-90 was investigating other islands in the vicinity. The nearest is about 20 km (15 miles) south west of Farsi - which is the right direction for drift, but still 20 hours drifting away.

    The crew was sailing somewhere for some purpose. The enginne breaks down or they run out of fuel. Surely the first thing they would do is call for help. What is the range to the nearest US naval vessel with a helicopter? A few hundred miles? So the helicopter would take a couple of hours to get to them. In the meanwhile they would have drifted a couple of km, hitting Farsi in this case. That means the vessel was in Iranian waters at the time of the engine failure or fuel shortage.

    In short it seems the crew entered Iranian territorial waters on purpose, either to test Iranian response or to distract Iran from some other activity.

    Be that as it may, I don't rule out the crew making a huge mistake while escorting a larger vessel.
    Iranians gave them back swiftly with no problems compared to the RN folks back 07.


    A while ago, I mentioned the superficially funny story of a Hellfire ending up in Cuba. People here rightly stated it was of little interest to Russia, other than for insights on how US manufatures stuff and possibl ids of sub-contractors. This is in total contrast to the US MoD feigned fear of Russia learning US top secrets. The bs factor - the incident supposedly happened in mid 2014 and yet it is being reported now?
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    Post  KiloGolf Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:21 pm

    short_fuze wrote:A while ago, I mentioned the superficially funny story of a Hellfire ending up in Cuba. People here rightly stated it was of little interest to Russia, other than for insights on how US manufatures stuff and possibl ids of sub-contractors. This is in total contrast to the US MoD feigned fear of Russia learning US top secrets. The bs factor - the incident supposedly happened in mid 2014 and yet it is being reported now?

    Well Russia has already copied the CB-90 Very Happy
    Although IRI could learn a thing or two from the weapons loadout, both on the boat as well as personal. As I noticed in Iranian pics, the boats were stripped of all weaponry. So chances are for 10-15 hours they were being investigated by IRGC.
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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:27 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:Iranians gave them back swiftly with no problems compared to the RN folks back 07.

    This time, as expected, apparently there was a prisoner exchange.
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    Post  short_fuze Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:14 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:
    short_fuze wrote:
    KiloGolf wrote:

    IRAN: Latest and Breaking News - Page 5 CYl5ewMU0AEBLGV

    Pictures are out there, these were actually CB-90s, in the middle of Persian Gulf where they should not be.
    What where they doing there? USN is in dire need of some FACs or small corvettes, fast.

    patrolling such an area with CB-90s is recipe for disaster. dunno
    unless they were providing force protection for larger vessel against the assymetric IRGC fast-boat navy. Still a big WTF regarding this news.



    PS. Seems like IRI is keeping them boats. Just wow
    PS2.nah false alarm, both boats are under US control

    The sailors were later taken ashore by U.S. Navy aircraft, while other sailors took charge of the boats and headed towards Bahrain, their original destination.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2016/01/13/us-usa-iran-boat-comment-idUSKCN0UR0K120160113

    This story carries a large whiff of lutefisk.

    The vessel was supposedly travelling between Kuwait and Bahrain. The shortest distance is about 220 miles between the very south of Kuwait and the very north of Bahrain. The CB-90 has a range of 240 miles. That is not a lot of leeway should something go wrong. The island of Farsi lies a minimum of about 50 miles (80 km) from this route. The sea currents in this part of the Gulf are about 1 km / hour from south west, so the vessel would have to have drifted for about 80 hours to reach Farsi. Farsi itself is only 500 metres across, so that it is remarkable that they reached it by chance assuming the Kuwait - Bahrain story is true.

    Alternatively perhaps the CB-90 was investigating other islands in the vicinity. The nearest is about 20 km (15 miles) south west of Farsi - which is the right direction for drift, but still 20 hours drifting away.

    The crew was sailing somewhere for some purpose. The enginne breaks down or they run out of fuel. Surely the first thing they would do is call for help. What is the range to the nearest US naval vessel with a helicopter? A few hundred miles? So the helicopter would take a couple of hours to get to them. In the meanwhile they would have drifted a couple of km, hitting Farsi in this case. That means the vessel was in Iranian waters at the time of the engine failure or fuel shortage.

    In short it seems the crew entered Iranian territorial waters on purpose, either to test Iranian response or to distract Iran from some other activity.

    Be that as it may, I don't rule out the crew making a huge mistake while escorting a larger vessel.
    Iranians gave them back swiftly with no problems compared to the RN folks back 07.

    Here is a summary of the duties of the Riverine Groups

    "It will be broken up into two groups. Coastal Riverine Group 1 will be based at Imperial
    Beach, Calif., with a squadron at the Naval Amphibious Base in San Diego. Coastal
    Riverine Group 2 will have its headquarters in Portsmouth, Va., with additional
    squadrons in Bahrain, Rhode Island and Florida.

    Each squadron will feature a headquarters element and four distinct companies, three of
    which will handle security operations, to include protecting ships and shore facilities,
    carrying out search-and seizure-operations and providing security for aircraft.

    The fourth, Delta company, will specialize in traditional Riverine duties, such as
    insertions and extractions, boardings on rivers and other inland waters, intelligence
    collection and more offensive combat operations
    , said Capt. James Hamblet, Coastal
    Riverine Group 2’s commander"

    from RS22373.pdf at https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec

    These Riverine Group 2 vessels were not protecting ships or shore facilities, nor were they carrying out search- and seizure-operations or providing security for aircraft.

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