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    Post  George1 Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:34 am

    Kosar-88

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    Post  lulldapull Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:39 am

    However people want to portray it but this Qaher is a bold attempt at plugging a massive capability gap in the IRIAF.

    Hopefully the next design doesn't look so comical. That kowser trainer looks close to the south Korean AT3? Not bad for a first attempt.

    The way its going, there is no doubt Iran will be the preeminent power in the middle east. No other country in that region has indigenous capability like Iran does.
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    Post  lulldapull Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:43 am

    AIM-54E clone?

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    Post  George1 Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:53 am

    lulldapull wrote:AIM-54E clone?

    Yes
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    Post  lulldapull Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:00 am

    just my opinion, interestingly that the Qaher looks more like a manned stealth attack drone, than a warplane.
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    Iran made IRGC rotary armed attack gyrocopter جایروکوپتر مسلح سپاه

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    Post  George1 Sun Mar 04, 2018 9:09 pm

    Iranian aviation rocket Shafagh

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    The AH-1J helicopter upgraded in Iran under the Toufan-2 program with the Shafagh missile.

    The Shafagh air-to-surface missile was based on the Shahab Thaqeb anti-aircraft missile (an Iranian missile copy for Chinese FM-80 / HQ-7 missile systems) with the installation of a new guidance system, etc.

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    Post  George1 Sun Nov 04, 2018 4:20 pm

    In Iran, announced the start of production of fighters Kosar (Kowsar)

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    Tehran, November 3, IRNA - The production line of the first fighter of its own production "Kosar" was launched on Saturday morning in the presence of the Minister of Defense and commander-in-chief of the Iranian army.

    The fighter "Kosar" uses the fourth generation of combat digital data network and is equipped with a heads-up display (HUD) system to increase the impact accuracy of the guns. Also among the equipment of advanced and multi-purpose radar for controlling the fire with increased accuracy of tracking targets.

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    Let me remind you that this is an Iranian copy of the combat-training version of the American F-5 fighter, which was officially introduced in August of this year, naturally the car has a completely new avionics compared to the original F-5F.

    For greater effect, it seems that all the "Koshars" rolled out now that they are being assembled and tested at the aircraft factory, from the fuselage to the already assembled car, which I think was shown to the Iranian president in August.

    In general, as I already wrote earlier, the chronic under-funding of aviation projects for the Iranian Air Force and the lack of sufficiently powerful modern engines drives the Iranian military aviation industry into an endless cycle of work on upgrading and copying the F-5. On the other hand, under the conditions of actually continuing to act against Iran, UN sanctions banning without the prior consent of the UN Security Council (and this consent is impossible because of the US position) the delivery of many weapons there, including combat aircraft and spare parts for them, Iran has no special choice. remains. To save pilot training, etc. in any case, need airplanes.

    My main question remains about the Iranian copy of the J85-Owj engine, as far as the engine is ready for serial production, since it is supposed to put on them at Kosar.

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    Post  yavar Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:17 pm

    Iran IRGC Aerospace chief Gen.Hajizadeh: infiltration to command and control American drone UAV data video feeds in Iraq & Syria

    EXCLUSIVE: Iran Penetrates into US Command Center, Picks Up Drones Control
    "Seven to eight drones that had constant flights over Syria and Iraq were brought under our control and their intel was monitored by us and we could gain their first-hand intel," General Hajizadeh said in the Western Iranian city of Hamedan on Thursday.
    The footage below shows IRGC's penetration into US Army's Command Center, one of the many proofs in support of General Hajizadeh's remarks.
    The footage shows a US flying drone starts malfunctioning and makes a rough landing in a desert area 10 kilometers away from its base.
    he US troops avoid approaching the malfunctioning drone as they are not sure who is controling the aircraft, and hence send a manned aircraft to bomb the drone.
    The footage that displays the IRGC's penetration into the US spy drone's intel has been recorded by an IRGC drone flying above the scene.
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    Post  GarryB Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:24 am

    Intercepting their data and interfering with their toys leading to their destruction... hahaha... sounds like they are having some fun at Americas expense... good stuff... Smile
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    Post  nomadski Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:00 pm


    I have always said that weak point of drones is data link . So in point defence and short range , data link should be directional LOS laser . For long range , the GPS , should be replaced by navigation by sun and moon . A computer programme establishes position , for any drone , flying at any time from any place . Sun and moon are satellites that give out signals . Like GPS sattelites . With advantage that , they can not be hit with anti - sattelite weapon . They are immune . So our long range drone are guided at first by LPS . Then inertial .
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    Post  GarryB Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:26 am

    This is just a case of the arrogant Americans underestimating their enemies...

    I rather suspect the Israelis wont make the same mistakes with the drones they use.

    Certainly they could be much smarter when it comes to encrypted messages to the drone and from the drone to ensure no unauthorised access is possible.

    Simply using coded transmissions for command and control should render it unable to be commandeered by anyone else...
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    Post  nomadski Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:41 am

    I had  this discussion a long time ago . About encryption and decryption . The Iranians wanted to buy software for diplomatic communication from western sources . So I said that , this is a useless activity . Since they know how to decrypt the software . So we know that  they know . And they know that  we know that they know . And we are going in circles . Any code that is systemic and mathematical can be broken  in time . So all electronic communication , such as radar , can be hacked . In time . That is why even best radar has shelf life . Completely random codes can not be broken . These are simple one off codes . Reset each time .

    Asymmetric response is needed . Fresh thinking . But we are all brainwashed by western culture and fashion and try to play catch up . The brain washed Iranian population also is stuck with symmetry . Copy the west . Our intelligentsia  is brain washed . They are still stuck with problem of buying  Boeing long range plane . For tourism . They dream of becoming like Malaysia or Egypt .

    Imagine the Amish in USA .  They will not use cars or planes .  They are happy with using tools and manpower . Instead of machines . And they are a happy people . They do not feel , hard done by . They are not brain washed by western culture . And there is logic and reason , behind what they do . Left alone , their culture will remain stable and outlast the western culture . If left alone  . Which they might not be , long term . Since they are defenceless .

    Iranians will not accept riding on horses . They are culturally contaminated , like most of the world . But they can stop this useless activity of copying the west . They do not need Boeing . Even other planes . If they have to travel , then get a train to Turkey . Then connecting flight . Or use new prop driven plane , that  they now manufacture , to go local . Or go to Turkey .

    But they are now trying to blindly copy the west .  And manufacture their own long range jet passenger plane . At a time when they  have yet to make a main jet fighter . As a priority . As long as they follow their reason and not their sense of fashion . Make asymmetric  weapons . Including nukes . And follow a good and reasoned life . Then they will outlast the corrupt western influence .


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    Post  GarryB Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:43 am

    I think it is possible to adopt western technology and developments while rejecting its culture... there is nothing inherently western about the motor car... it is just a natural evolution of a motorised cart... the west did not invent the cart or the wheel.

    Iran, and other countries need to decide what they want, what their values and beliefs will be and not look to the US or the west for leadership... they couldn't lead an orgy in a whore house...

    Just bide your time, keep your head down and when they have self destructed they wont be a problem any more.

    By the way I appreciate your opinion, but suspect you only intended to post it just once so I will delete the other two... Smile
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    Post  GarryB Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:48 am

    BTW the encryption method you are referring to is the one time pad... it basically links coded words together... there is a pair... it is used once and never used again... it is unbreakable... unless someone gets a hold of one of the pads.

    One solution is to send garbage 99% of the time with an enormous transmission rate with enormous files, and then when you send an actual message... hide it... but make sure it only has meaning to the person you are sending it to...
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    Post  nomadski Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:29 pm

    The best method with UAV ,  is to allow for independent passive reception and AI  analysis . There are I think 3D radars that can analyse target and engage . Without need for pilot or operator . Short range directional beams are hard to intercept , and are another method . Any signal picked up, can be , we assume ,unscrambled . Given time and resources . Unless the code used is a one off . Per mission or per device . Randomly generated  each time . And shared only between two devices . Even if one device is compromised  , then this only affects a small number of devices . And not entire system . So say ten long range UAV  , attacking ships at sea , with a pilot flying each , will heve ten different codes , randomly generated , for each UAV . Even each control signal for each move , say left or right , is coded differently . Never the same . And discarded at the end . A lot of code generation . I don't even know if this is possible with live video feed . Needing heavy data transfer .
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    Post  JohninMK Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:45 pm

    My father was a fighter controller using radar in north Africa in WW2. They had a big problem with Luftwaffe planes attacking from Crete avoiding contact by listening to their radios tuned to RAF frequencies so he developed a code to home his fighters onto their targets. It was simple, two words, left or right. An instruction of which way to turn to intercept. Then hourly they randomly flipped left to mean right etc. I still have a pilot's silk scarf that Dad claimed off a particularly angry shot down pilot.

    Simply changed parameters in complex coding can be very effective.
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    Post  nomadski Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:16 pm

    Yes , if you can hide location of radar or radio mast . Make immune from jamming or anti - radiation attack . In ww2 , they did not have all this . A passive system is better . Without sending out signal . Well most of the time .  In case of using radar , the UAV can make use of it , during last few seconds . To set guidance parameter for gyro etc . Then switch off . Initial navigation by star light . Homing in by passive IR .  Final attack by radar . No pilot or operator . One way trip . Kamikaze UAV .  Longer range . Warhead WD40 !

    Iran released photo of 50 of the latest long range drone ( oved 1000 km ) , in formation flight . And a simultaneous hit on target . So they carry significant payload . So be it by missile or drone , means of delivery exists . So the steps are :

    ( 1 ) Display means of delivery .

    ( 2 ) Display warhead capability .

    ( 3 ) Display significant number of completed system .

    ( 4 ) Close the Hormuz to flow of oil .

    ( 5 ) Watch the yank greatest defeat in history on TV .


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    Post  George1 Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:42 pm

    Three Iranian missile projects for army aviation


    Three Iranian guided missile projects for army aviation, which are currently being tested, were officially presented in Iran.

    One of them is the aviation version of the Dehlaviyeh ATGM with a laser-beam control system, that is, Iranian copies of the Kornet, mass-produced in Iran. Let me remind you that earlier a photo of one of the Iranian multi-purpose helicopters with ATGM Dehlaviyeh already flashed, and now they were officially shown installed on the AH-1J helicopter.

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    The next project is an air-to-ground rocket - Heydar. The rocket can be equipped with different homing heads and works on the principle of "shot-forget". Range more than 8 km.

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    Third rocket Ghamar Bani Hashem. It is said about her that she can work on both air and ground targets, but judging by her appearance in general, this is clearly primarily an air-to-air missile.

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    Post  nomadski Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:31 pm

    So we  want to put expensive helicopter to attack ground target with short range ATGM .  It did not work so well for the yank in Vietnam nor soviet in Afghanistan . Iran has limited numbers . Best use them against higher value target at  sea where attack most probably come from and more difficult to stop . Use anti - ship missiles . Arrange for refuelling at sea . Use smart artillery and drones for land attack , mounted on cheaper ground vehicles . Same thing for the use of close support attack aircraft .

    About stopping flow of oil . Tell Saudi  that you may hit oil well head . And they have to retaliate . So both will loose oil industry . Instead they can secretly arrange for smoke near well , and so can Iran . Without any shot being fired . The governments then forced to cut oil output because of " damage " . This saves face . Put strain on market . Stop sanction . Stop war . Alternative is region going up in flame . Loose loose . Not win win .

    Since ships carry heavier missile with longer range than helicopters . Then helicopters must enter into firing range of ship missile , before firing their own missiles . This means they must disable ship radar and be low RCS also . They will be able to be refueled  at sea , unlike jets . They can pick up floating fuel pods from the water surface , released earlier by a sub . Using a winch and hooks.
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    Iran locally-manufactured system IRGC Military Communication System “Sepehr-110” for voice and data transmission / system is also invulnerable to hacks, eavesdropping, radio jamming, and electromagnetic disturbance.
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    Post  George1 Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:25 pm

    Official presentation of guided bombs Balaban, Yasin and Ghaem family took place in Iran


    In principle, these guided aerial bombs were already known, so the images of the Balaban and Yasin bombs (called JDAM-ER) were shown at exhibitions earlier this year among the products of the Iranian Defense Industry Organization, and the first version of the Ghaem bombs (Qaem) was presented together with the UAV Mohajer-6. However, it turned out that under the name Ghaem, we now have a whole family of guided bombs for drones.

    In the background, on the right side of the photo, the largest aerial bomb is the Yasir (JDAM-ER), the planned guided aerial bomb, and the Balaban, the guided aerial bomb, on the left. In the foreground are guided bombs of the Qaem family: on the left side of Qaem-1, Qaem-9 in the center and Qaem-5 on the right side.

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    Ghaem-9 is a new version of the bomb for large shock UAVs like Mohajer-6 and Shahed-129, Ghaem-5 is the standard guided bomb that immediately went into production with the Mohajer-6 UAV and already received a baptism of fire during strikes on positions of Kurdish groups in the border areas of Northern Iraq, and Ghaem-1 is a smaller version of it designed for use with relatively small UAVs, such as the widespread Iranian tactical reconnaissance UAVs Ababil-3. It is stated that they can be equipped with different homing heads.

    Yasir guided planning bombs (JDAM-ER) have a flight range of more than 50 km and were shown for the first time last year among the armaments of the Su-22 AKSIR fighter bomber upgraded in Iran and there were already shots of their use from F-7 fighters. In turn, Balaban guided planning bombs can hit a target at a shorter distance (more than 25 km), but they are also noticeably smaller. On the video frames, by the way, you can notice how they are launched including with jet drones Karrar.
    On target, these planning bombs Yasir and Balaban are guided by the installed inertial and satellite navigation systems.


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    Ababil-3 serial production number "A3N-1-228" with Qaem-1 guided bombs
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    Post  George1 Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:40 pm

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:16 pm

    He's talking about the different warheads, cluster munitions?

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