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    Post  GarryB Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:41 am

    Yes, have seen the vids for it and it looks rather good.

    Set after the current Metro games set in the Moscow Metro system, where you basically take a train across a post apocalyptic Russia and find stuff and from what I can tell add carriages and recruit people to your cause... looks rather interesting.

    Only thing I don't really like is the silly looking steam punk weapons they seem to use...
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    Post  kvs Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:02 pm

    xeno wrote:You guys must play Metro Exodus as this is a Russian military forum....

    The makers of the game are p*ssing off the fans by acting like bitches. They yanked the game from Steam without warning in order
    to make it exclusive on the distributer's storefront. Then they attack fans for being toxic. F*ck em.
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    Post  Kimppis Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:29 pm

    Did you guys know that the Metro author is pro-Maidan? Anatoly Karlin told me that and he also mentioned that even today Russia's cultural elite is still MOSTLY pro-Western/pro-Maidan liberal. Sure many of them, that doesn't surprise me at all, but most?

    I was quite surprised, as I remember reading an article where Glukhovsky basically complained that the West doesn't acknowledge Russia's legitimate national interests. But mind you, that was published before 2014.

    I also read that one of the "state TV channels" (in contrast to the West and its... anti-state channels, I guess? Rolling Eyes ) complained that the newest Metro game is Russophobic. The report seemed quite... dumb, to be honest. It's not like it would surprising, this is post-2014 and the devs are Ukrainian (and indeed, even the Russian author's loyalties are... questionable), but the reasons given were dubious.

    That said, I haven't actually played the game and the article was Western, so who knows. But in any case, this Glukhovsky guy seemed to get really triggered by the whole thing, which in itself would be OK, but in this context... the guy seems like a borderline traitorous asshole. Sad.

    So I actually played the first game a few years ago, but my motivation to play the rest has admittedly waned due to this BS. Not that Metro 2034 anything special, 7/10 at most, so whatever, but I guess I'll play the two sequels eventually.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:22 pm

    Glukhovsky is not really all there mentally and politically. You can actually get a sense of it from the first game. Story is fun but you can just feel his political issues creeping into the script and weird part is how disjointed those political views are.

    He is definitely super-heavy liberal but I honestly don't think there is anything in current political spectrum that would satisfy him. My guess is that he is still stuck wanting whatever idealized world Soviets thought they would get once they drop communism.

    One thing is certain, he is definitely more in favor of Nazis than Communist. It was clear in first game but second one really hammers the point home.

    I did enjoy the first two games. Second one especially since it had greatly improved stealth gameplay which is my preferred approach if available.

    I basically cleared the whole game just by punching out humans without them even knowing I was there. Good times.




    Now if you want some masterpiece game recommendations from me here they are:

    Fallout 1,2,3

    Resident Evil 1,2,3

    Mass Effect 1

    Mirror's Edge

    Alien Isolation

    Deus Ex 1 and Human Revolution

    Life is Strange 1, 2 and prequel

    Halo 1 and Halo Wars

    FreeSpace 2

    Wing Commander Darkest Dawn

    Splinter Cell 1,2,3,5 (last one delivers pretty good story ending​)

    Sleeping Dogs
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    Post  Kimppis Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:48 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:He is definitely super-heavy liberal but I honestly don't think there is anything in current political spectrum that would satisfy him. My guess is that he is still stuck wanting whatever idealized world Soviets thought they would get once they drop communism.

    So an SJW lol? Is he a Navalny supporter? They sound kind of similar, as according to the "anti-Russian" and Western narrative, Navalny is this "liberal ray of light inside Putler's Mordor," but he's actually said some "nazi" things about Central Asian immigrants, etc.

    Now if you want some masterpiece game recommendations from me here they are:

    Fallout 1,2,3

    Resident Evil 1,2,3

    Mass Effect 1

    Mirror's Edge

    Alien Isolation

    Deus Ex 1 and Human Revolution

    Life is Strange 1, 2 and prequel

    Halo 1 and Halo Wars

    FreeSpace 2

    Wing Commander Darkest Dawn

    Splinter Cell 1,2,3,5 (last one delivers pretty good story ending​)

    Sleeping Dogs

    Good recommendations. I'm mostly a console peasant (sorry everyone), and the Western AAA industry has been going downhill recently, kind of anyway. Too much focus on multiplayer and increasingly, SJWism. The OG Splinter Cell trilogy is excellent, very nostalgic stuff. Love Sleeping Dogs' setting, really deserved a sequel.

    I bought a Nintendo Switch in January, and the handheld versions of games like Doom, Skyrim and Dark Souls are quite impressive.

    I've actually never been the biggest fan of Zelda and Mario (no nostalgia), but Breath of the Wild and Odyssey are excellent as well. BotW in particular is very different from the earlier games, the open-world aspect works great, it's very open-ended, no hand holding but at the same time not too cryptic. The overall design is quite exceptional, IMO.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:05 pm

    Kimppis wrote:...........Good recommendations. I'm mostly a console peasant (sorry everyone), and the Western AAA industry has been going downhill recently, kind of anyway. Too much focus on multiplayer and increasingly, SJWism. The OG Splinter Cell trilogy is excellent, very nostalgic stuff. Love Sleeping Dogs' setting, really deserved a sequel.
    ....


    I am thinking about switching to console, I had shortage of time lately to keep gaming rig running smoothly

    I would get back to PC in couple of years once I get my stuff in order...
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    Post  Kimppis Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:58 pm

    Not a bad idea. The PS5 should launch in late 2020, if you can wait for that long. Alternatively, the standard PS4 is cheap and its single-player exclusives are very good.
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    Post  Kimppis Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:02 pm

    Karlin: Is Metro Exodus Russophobic?
    http://www.unz.com/akarlin/is-metro-exodus-russophobic/

    Summary:

    Russian TV – being, for the most part, sovok bilge [my disclaimer: i.e. to them pro-Soviet = pro-Russian and vice versa] – says that it is… because you get a “decommunization” award for sniping off the head of the Great Bald One.

    But in reality, there was no shortage of hidden and not so hidden anti-Russian content in this Ukrainian-made video game they could have focused on, had they so wished.

    The game is based on Dmitry Glukhovsky’s eponymous series, and the third game in particular is based on Glukhovsky’s third book, Metro 2035. Now the first book, Metro 2033, goes light on politics and constitutes standard (if rather well-written) post-apocalyptic doomporn.

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    However, as the third book (Metro 2035) rolls around, it becomes increasingly evident that the cake is a lie. The war is long over, and in reality, it is not really all the radiation and mutants keeping Muscovites in their sordid bunker. If only they knew that NATO is now friends and they could all go out and sing kumbaya in a circle with the Dark Ones and rainbow-colored pterodactyls flying overhead! Unfortunately, a deep state – the “Hidden Watchers” – blocks radio transmissions to Moscow, preventing them from embracing that happy fate.

    Now this is all fine, sci-fi writers have always made critical comments on their societies. The Strugatskys were brilliant at it (who could the “unknown fathers” have been referring to? hmmm…). But the problem is that by the third book it was an open polemic, not the grimdark post-apocalyptic adventure story it started out as. This resulted in a suspension of belief and low ratings, though Glukhovsky himself would probably ascribe it Putler’s brainwashing.

       People in Russia say that they’re happy with Putin – but then they’re being brainwashed day and night by all channels of TV, and they’re asked about their love for Putin by state-controlled sociological services.

    Now speaking of governments that one deserves… it is unsurprising that, as members of Kiev’s creative class, 4A Games heartily supported the “Revolution of Dignity”, including their co-founder and creative director:

       I want during my time on Earth to live in a normal country – and if it could be the Ukraine, I can’t even imagine this… People gave their lives for this chance …

       Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!


    He wrote that in February 2014. Three months later, 4A Games relocated to Malta.


    So I machine translated that Russian language article as well. There's nothing THAT obvious, but here are some examples:

    No. 1 - Russia with a small letter.

    My paranoid eye noticed a jar on the table, the color of which may very well coincide with the flag of one Ukrainian organization banned in Russia. Already sounds stupid and crazy. Exactly paranoid.

    In the story we came to the government. To the ministers and officers. To the survivors and the saved.

    After a short time, it turns out that the current "government" is now seized by cannibals with habits of orcs.

    Upon completion of the mission we get the achievement "Lunch failed" with a picture of a shot double-headed eagle.
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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:59 pm

    Kimppis wrote:Karlin: Is Metro Exodus Russophobic?
    http://www.unz.com/akarlin/is-metro-exodus-russophobic/
    ............

    So we have this:

    ...In the post-nuclear apocalypse, the surviving members of the Russian state at the Yamantau mountain base habr degenerated into a pack of crazed man-eaters literally feeding on local Russians. Or maybe they were always such.

    They chief says, “We are the government that you deserve.”...

    Yeah, this game is way too subtle for me. I thing I'll give this one a pass.

    Besides, Cyberpunk 2077 should come along by the time I get back into gaming anyway... thumbsup


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    Post  GarryB Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:00 am

    I don't give a shit about the politics of a game... I enjoyed Operation Flashpoint for years and then the Red campaign was even better because I was issued with the weapons and equipment I wanted to play with instead of having to get the fun Soviet weapons from the enemy...

    If they have options for mods I would be interested in having a go at making a few mods myself set in the Ukraine... the graphics look impressive... nothing professional... half assed stuff... of course.
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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:20 am


    Oh and another thing: plot hole

    According to novel and first two games Moscow is supposed to be only place on the planet where humans survived due to massive, isolated and deep metro system.
    Everything on the surface was either dead or mutated.

    Basically metaphor for mankind.

    But come third game we suddenly have loads of humans living on the surface like it was just a bad case of global warming. In Russia which was directly hit by half of planet's nuclear arsenal.

    Hell, Brazil probably doesn't even know that anything happened... lol1

    This is why sequels always suck donkey balls. Writers always piss all over original story to stretch it out. Lame.

    They even did it with sequels to Mass Effect which were supposed to be planned in advance. Like seriously...

    Never in my life have I played a sequel that didn't suck in comparison. They were on par at best and very rarely so (props to Resident Evil 2 here)
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    Post  The-thing-next-door Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:48 pm

    Deos anyone here know how to use Unreal engine or Unity? It may be worthwhile creating a game that isn't a damned abomanation of decadent propaganda.

    It could be made an official forum effort with many users submitting content to it so that it would not be dependent on any one member.

    I do have some limited experience modeling animating and using both engines.



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    Post  kvs Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:24 pm

    The-thing-next-door wrote:Deos anyone here know how to use Unreal engine or Unity? It may be worthwhile creating a game that isn't a damned abomanation of decadent propaganda.

    It could be made an official forum effort with many users submitting content to it so that it would not be dependent on any one member.

    I do have some limited experience modeling animating and using both engines.




    All the character and scene/level design and rendering resources suck up 99% of the development time. The out-of-the-box engine
    is last on the effort list unless it needs to be heavily redesigned. This is what has f*cked up EA when they chose to standardize around
    the same game engine. Whole game projects simply died because of lack of resources. Getting the right talent together in a team
    for game development is more challenging than putting together application coders.

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    Post  The-thing-next-door Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:32 pm

    Have you seen some of the things achieved by small mod teams? They are often clunky but none the less impressive.

    My idea would be to start with a more simple game and then slowly add to it over time. Or if that is too challenging then you could always resort to making a mod for an existing game.

    Also there are plenty of free ready to use game assets available online.

    Alos I would hardly consider EA an example of game development issues thier promblem lies more in the mismanaging retards incharge.

    It is entirely possible to have a base game running in less than a day and from that pont it is a simple case of adding content. It could potentially be quite interesting to see what sort of strange military hardware difforent users come up with and how it works in game, ofcourse in that case It would be best to make it a PVE game.

    Maybe an MMO type game without the grind and maybe it could have a GMing system like Arma3 to keep missions intersting?


    I would say it is worth a try. Could one of the Moderators give this its own official thread?
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    Post  kvs Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:14 pm



    Modern game development overseen by large companies has become a total farce.

    We are going to miss the golden era of startup game developers. Yes, small teams can
    outperform mismanaged large teams. But they still need talent (e.g. ID Software).

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    Post  The-thing-next-door Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:03 pm

    I am not suggesting a retail game but rather a community project, something that is not so far fetched.
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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:07 pm


    It took 12 years but Halo 3 is finally coming to PC  thumbsup

    When I said I will wait for PC version they called me a fool and said it will never happen. Well guess what, I am one patient motherfu*ker...  Cool

    They are releasing in one package: Halo Reach, Halo Combat Evolved, Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo 3 ODST Campaign and Halo 4

    Basically everything you will ever need, Halo Wars is already on PC






    Also another recommendation: Valkyria Chronicles

    This game is amazing, gameplay is great and you can just get lost in cutscenes and story.

    Don't be shy to google solution to couple of missions because everything else is perfection:

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:44 pm

    Any good sci fi RPG recommendations besides Mass Effect? I liked 1-3 a lot, Andromeda slightly less so but I still consider it a good game.
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    Post  GarryB Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:29 am

    I found a survival RPG called Day R for my phone.

    It was a bit addictive so I have taken a break from it at the moment but it is very detailed and rather good... you basically wake up in the middle of a street in late 1980s Soviet Union, and you basically try to learn skills and find material to survive. You find tools but can also make some tools and as you use your skills you get better. The main source of food to begin with is giant rats, but over time you come across more serious enemies like Lynxes and zombies etc. There are no other people... bodies in places... and craters and radiation everywhere. You have Survival skills (ie making torches for searching buildings at night, building shelters, making fishing rods, boiling water to make it clean to drink or make bandages), sewing skills (making some clothes repairing things, making backpacks to carry more gear), chemistry skills to make bandages, mechanical skills to repair bicycles and motor vehicles so you can travel further and faster, as well as make tools and weapons, cooking skills to make food last longer.

    For instance when you kill a rat you can butcher it, which gives you pieces of raw meat and bones. The bones can be used to make a bone based glue but you need a pot and some other things. If you have a fire you can cook the meat so it will last a couple of days. If you have the survival skill to make a drying rack, you need wood (from forests) and rope (found in some houses), and you can dry out the meat over a smoky fire so it will be OK to eat for months.

    When you start out if you find some flint and some paper, you can use a skill to make a flint and steel to start fires.. later on as you gain survival skills you can make a fire lighter from a piece of flint and a shell case and other things, but you can also find a lighter if you are lucky.

    You can gain credits which you can use to buy stuff... with real money or watching adverts.

    You get a free gift if you play every day, like a lighter, or a torch, or 10 tins of meat or whatever.

    I found it to be detailed and simple enough but a little frustrating... you need to keep moving to follow a storyline and to find new resources, but that is difficult as you can't just run around with everything in your pockets so often you leave stuff behind and when you get to new places there are things that are there and things that are not. Most cars on the street are broken down so you need to build up your skills to learn to fix them... until you can fix them you take the petrol from them for other things you make like a gas burner or lighter, or for making torches to light your way searching at night.

    Found it in the play store on my android phone... it is called Day R.
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    Post  The-thing-next-door Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:31 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:

    Also another recommendation: Valkyria Chronicles

    This game is amazing, gameplay is great and you can just get lost in cutscenes and story.

    Don't be shy to google solution to couple of missions because everything else is perfection:


    Isn't litterally anything made by sega highly Russophobic?

    I get the impression that if they potray Russian tanks as innefective enough then Russia will conclude the futre of armored warfare is tentacles and make some giant robotic octotanks in order to sway the female population to thier side lol!

    They should really be looking at war of the worlds instead if they want a more acurate picture of what Russian octotanks might do to them though.
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:16 pm

    The-thing-next-door wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:

    Also another recommendation: Valkyria Chronicles

    This game is amazing, gameplay is great and you can just get lost in cutscenes and story.

    Don't be shy to google solution to couple of missions because everything else is perfection:


    Isn't litterally anything made by sega highly Russophobic?

    I get the impression that if they potray Russian tanks as innefective enough then Russia will conclude the futre of armored warfare is tentacles and make some giant robotic octotanks in order to sway the female population to thier side ......


    What are you talking about?

    There is no Russia in this game (or any other country), everything is completely fictional.

    You basically have minuscule Germany and massive Germany at war with each other over some fictional crystal that is used instead of petroleum.

    Also, purple haired people are standing in for Jews and they are dressed as Gypsies. That's about as close to real world as it gets.

    Game is awesome.
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    Post  The-thing-next-door Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:11 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:

    What are you talking about?

    There is no Russia in this game (or any other country), everything is completely fictional.

    You basically have minuscule Germany and massive Germany at war with each other over some fictional crystal that is used instead of petroleum.

    Also, purple haired people are standing in for Jews and they are dressed as Gypsies. That's about as close to real world as it gets.

    Game is awesome.

    Oh.. oops... maybe I should probe deeper before claiming decadence.

    Doesn't yaposhki fiction like to portray Russians as the antogonists though?

    I have some great ideas for the next evolution of armored fighting apendage, all i need is an excuse and I shall have no opposition in my run for world president!
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    Post  kvs Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:58 am

    The controls for that game are beyond idiotic. I wish these clown developers wouldn't foist their moronic keybindings on the gamers.
    It is not much to ask these days for fully configurable key and mouse bindings. Any excuse for not having this as as standard feature
    is BS.
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    Post  The-thing-next-door Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:27 pm

    Also PappaDragon, Why no recommendation for Fallout New Vegas?

    It has by far the most content of all post fallout 3 fallout games and like fallout 3 its character creator retains the ability to create Stalin's likeness as your character.
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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:49 pm

    kvs wrote:The controls for that game are beyond idiotic. I wish these clown developers wouldn't foist their moronic keybindings on the gamers.
    It is not much to ask these days for fully configurable key and mouse bindings. Any excuse for not having this as as standard feature
    is BS.

    What?

    Controls are fine, you got WASD movement, mouse aim (damn good one) and space bar.

    That's it, it's all there is to it. What is there​ that requires remapping?

    Besides, it's na turn-based game so it's not like you need split second speed.




    The-thing-next-door wrote:Also PappaDragon, Why no recommendation for Fallout New Vegas?

    It has by far the most content of all post fallout 3 fallout games and like fallout 3 its character creator retains the ability to create Stalin's likeness as your character.


    New Vegas was alright but story is nothing to write home about and antagonists are lame.

    Another problem with lead antagonists (Legion) is that they are hilariously overpowered. You basically got naked humans who are stronger than super-mutants with heavy armor. And don't get me started on final boss.

    Also, it no longer feels as post-apocalypse, they basically have whole functioning countries now.

    I just prefer first three games.

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