Asf wrote:For G-d's sake
Are you an orthodox jew?
He probably forgot to take his medicine daily... But ain't no fun when a Jew is confronted with the richest country in the world, that is - Russia.
No more gold grabbing like in case of Germany
Asf wrote:For G-d's sake
Are you an orthodox jew?
Petro007 wrote:For G-d's sake, can you stop insulting Jews? U envy us that we got banks and are richer than you??? and say who do you think rules USA white Anglo Saxons or Jews? Ur becoming confused about your own Propaganda and you start mizing everything up.
Werewolf wrote:
The referendum proves you wrong.
TheGeorgian wrote:Werewolf wrote:
The referendum proves you wrong.
No it doesn't. It's called calculus. There is reaction to every action. Putin's reaction to Yanokuvich being kicked out of office was to incapacitate UA, take Crimea, make referendum. Peasants are political tools.
Would a referendum have happened if Yanukovich was still in power ? I think not.
TheGeorgian wrote:gregoire wrote:To thegeorgian.
I disagree. andso on..
yeah yeah, Kiev was about to do this and that. Did it happen ? no it did not, so I can't prematurely judge about something that actualy didn't happen and you should avoid the same thing. You people are good in accusing and foreshadowing evil things coming from your opponents. People on the other side expect the same ugly things from you. So what's the use of debating about that ? exactly, absolutly none. Of course you can have your own view on that.
But fact is that Crimea was a strategic response to EU/USA removing Yanukovich and nothing else. Same coldly calculated move is this uprising now as I said earlier, to simply seal the deal with Crimea. That's it boy, that's geopolitics. Nobody cares about the avarage peasants desires.
TheGeorgian wrote:Werewolf wrote:
The referendum proves you wrong.
No it doesn't. It's called calculus. There is reaction to every action. Putin's reaction to Yanokuvich being kicked out of office was to incapacitate UA, take Crimea, make referendum. Peasants are political tools.
Would a referendum have happened if Yanukovich was still in power ? I think not.
TheGeorgian wrote:gregoire wrote:To thegeorgian.
I disagree. As you put it the aggression came from Russia. Kiev was about to take away some fundamental rights from the russian speaking population and they wanted nothing to do with it. They looked at how things went in Crimea and hoped for a similar peaceful solution by use of referendum. Kiev decided that they would not let this happen (even though russia already signaled that it would not accept novorossiya as it did with crimea).
As things stand now ukraine will be split in half. I do hope the likes of yatsenyuk, poroshenko and his henchmen will get what they deserve.
yeah yeah, Kiev was about to do this and that. Did it happen ? no it did not, so I can't prematurely judge about something that actualy didn't happen and you should avoid the same thing. You people are good in accusing and foreshadowing evil things coming from your opponents. People on the other side expect the same ugly things from you. So what's the use of debating about that ? exactly, absolutly none. Of course you can have your own view on that.
But fact is that Crimea was a strategic response to EU/USA removing Yanukovich and nothing else. Same coldly calculated move is this uprising now as I said earlier, to simply seal the deal with Crimea. That's it boy, that's geopolitics. Nobody cares about the avarage peasants desires.
Vann7 wrote:Is this real?
https://twitter.com/BradCabana/status/505273523196416000
The Collective Security Treaty Organization of Russia ,and other Former soviet republics including Belarus are saying they ready for a peace keeping mission in Ukraine. ? The only way they could get that peace keeping mission is if they do it without the UN security council support. Because NATO will never backup a cease of fire.. they want to see blood running until no more ukrainians are left. and then replace them with europeans.
Having been quiet for a few days, comfortable sitting back and watching NATO, Europe, and the US escalate each other's talking points to a frenzy of populist revolt, Russia's Vladimir Putin has come out swinging this morning:
*PUTIN: NO MATTER WHAT U.S. DOES, IT TURNS OUT LIKE LIBYA, IRAQ
*PUTIN SAYS UN CAN'T BE FOREIGN POLICY TOOL FOR U.S., ALLIES
*PUTIN: EUROPEAN LEADERS FAR FROM SHOWING INDEPENDENT THINKING
*PUTIN SAYS RUSSIA IS COUNTRY THAT DOESN'T FEAR ANYTHING
In addition to discussions of The Bolsheviks, agreeing Stalin was a tyrant, and slamming liberal economic models for creating crises, Putin notes his approval rating is high because "he is confident he's right."
Some more fun soundbites:
*PUTIN SAYS BOLSHEVIKS BETRAYED NATIONAL INTERESTS IN WWI
*PUTIN SAYS UNFORTUNATELY SUCH PEOPLE IN RUSSIA TODAY
*PUTIN SAYS LIBERAL ECONOMIC MODEL LEADS TO BUILDUP OF CRISES
*PUTIN SAYS NOBODY DENIES STALIN WAS A TYRANT
*PUTIN SAYS LEADERS WIN SUPPORT BY BEING CONFIDENT THEY'RE RIGHT
*PUTIN: FIGHTS AT UN SOMETIMES FIERCER THAN DURING COLD WAR
*PUTIN SAYS UNITED NATIONS NOT ALWAYS EFFECTIVE
And perhaps of most note... just as Obama pronounced yesterday that US would not engage militarily:
*PUTIN: RUSSIA FAR AWAY FROM BEING SUCKED IN GLOBAL CONFLICT
But...
*PUTIN SAYS RUSSIA IS NUCLEAR POWER, STRENGTHENING CAPABILITIES
*PUTIN: RUSSIA STRENGTHENS ARSENAL TO FEEL SAFE, NOT THREATEN
*PUTIN: DON'T THINK ANYONE SEEKS LARGE-SCALE CONFLICT W/ RUSSIA
- In declared war govt. has power over domestic social media. Media allowing enemy posts could be seized, management charged with treason.
-Euromaidan Press @EuromaidanPress · Aug 27
PROPHET IN THE WILDERNESS
Russia take-> #Georgia, tomorrow #Ukraine, the day after - Baltics, then perhaps my country #Poland
There are 14 nuclear reactors in Ukraine... You can't hide. Europe will glow at night but not from the street lights.
Petro007 wrote:For those who think United States will collapse, here it is - in Q2 2014 US economy grew by 4.2%
What was Russia's growth??? 0.8%?
The days of Russia are numbered. It will be a miracle if it survives till the end of our decade.
Petro007 wrote:For those who think United States will collapse, here it is - in Q2 2014 US economy grew by 4.2%
What was Russia's growth??? 0.8%?
The days of Russia are numbered. It will be a miracle if it survives till the end of our decade.
Vann7 wrote:Petro007 wrote:For those who think United States will collapse, here it is - in Q2 2014 US economy grew by 4.2%
What was Russia's growth??? 0.8%?
The days of Russia are numbered. It will be a miracle if it survives till the end of our decade.
The germany GDP growth was about 0.3%. in case you didn't knew..
Italy is on recession . US economy is on really bad shape..Detroit is bankrupt.. i heard also the same of California.
also read that the real unemployment of US is 21%. but not sure. But something is clear.. US economy is going down..and will take Europe with them. US economy is a war economy.. they depend on wars to boost their arm sales and raise the price of Oil ,which is directly linked with their dollar.
Hannibal Barca wrote:
The Washington thug is so full of lies that you really need to have exact knowledge to sail through all this piles of crap.
Back in Q1 they understood that they about to have two consecutive quarters with negative rates which means that they would officially enter recession.
So what this Einsteins came up with? Instead of having something like Q1 -0.5% and Q2 -0.5% they used creative logistics and passed some of the promised payments in Q2
and wrote all the expenses from Obama care in Q1. So they reported Q1 shrinkage Q2 growth and business as usual
Now add to this that due to the imminent elections they report a +4% instead of the real +2% and you have the full picture.
Just a low level scam.
sepheronx wrote:http://en.itar-tass.com/world/747269
This goes against NATO's code of not allowing nations to join who have disputed territory. In this case, NATO is scared and is hoping to have Ukraine as a satellite state ASAP before things get real nasty for Crimea.
http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/747177
Such warriors... And NATO wants these type of people in their military? I am starting to think NATO is just gearing up for an attack on Russia and is willing to use the dirtiest people to do it.
http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/747169
A lot of Refugees from Ukraine are leaving to Russia. I am thinking. If Ukraine is so good and democratic now, wonder why Ukrainians are leaving in droves.
Flyingdutchman wrote:sepheronx wrote:http://en.itar-tass.com/world/747269
This goes against NATO's code of not allowing nations to join who have disputed territory. In this case, NATO is scared and is hoping to have Ukraine as a satellite state ASAP before things get real nasty for Ukraine
http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/747177
Such warriors... And NATO wants these type of people in their military? I am starting to think NATO is just gearing up for an attack on Russia and is willing to use the dirtiest people to do it.
http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/747169
A lot of Refugees from Ukraine are leaving to Russia. I am thinking. If Ukraine is so good and democratic now, wonder why Ukrainians are leaving in droves.
That is a veeeeeerryy bad idea!!
sepheronx wrote:Flyingdutchman wrote:sepheronx wrote:http://en.itar-tass.com/world/747269
This goes against NATO's code of not allowing nations to join who have disputed territory. In this case, NATO is scared and is hoping to have Ukraine as a satellite state ASAP before things get real nasty for Ukraine
http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/747177
Such warriors... And NATO wants these type of people in their military? I am starting to think NATO is just gearing up for an attack on Russia and is willing to use the dirtiest people to do it.
http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/747169
A lot of Refugees from Ukraine are leaving to Russia. I am thinking. If Ukraine is so good and democratic now, wonder why Ukrainians are leaving in droves.
That is a veeeeeerryy bad idea!!
Had to edit. I didn't mean Crimea, I meant Ukraine.
Anyway, yes it is bad news. Ukraine will end up thinking too much and maybe drag itself into a war with Russia thinking it would have NATO's back. But we all know NATO would not commit to it. At least not majority of NATO nations.
Flyingdutchman wrote:sepheronx wrote:Flyingdutchman wrote:sepheronx wrote:http://en.itar-tass.com/world/747269
This goes against NATO's code of not allowing nations to join who have disputed territory. In this case, NATO is scared and is hoping to have Ukraine as a satellite state ASAP before things get real nasty for Ukraine
http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/747177
Such warriors... And NATO wants these type of people in their military? I am starting to think NATO is just gearing up for an attack on Russia and is willing to use the dirtiest people to do it.
http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/747169
A lot of Refugees from Ukraine are leaving to Russia. I am thinking. If Ukraine is so good and democratic now, wonder why Ukrainians are leaving in droves.
That is a veeeeeerryy bad idea!!
Had to edit. I didn't mean Crimea, I meant Ukraine.
Anyway, yes it is bad news. Ukraine will end up thinking too much and maybe drag itself into a war with Russia thinking it would have NATO's back. But we all know NATO would not commit to it. At least not majority of NATO nations.
I think there Will be at least one country that Will block ukrainanian acces to NATO and one member is enough to block it.
sepheronx wrote:
There is something common amongst Georgia and Ukraine. Both have idiot leaders who think they can get away with killing innocent people because they have so called backup from USA and NATO. Guess Ukraine should have learned from Tie eaters experience.
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