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    Post  TheArmenian Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:44 am

    Another Azeri UAV shot down.



    Edit: Whooops, the other Armenian was faster


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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:45 am

    Godric wrote:is this true from Colonel Cassad  ... that the azeri have taken about half of Karabakh ??

    http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2687994.html

    The article is dated 04/04/2016, while it has a map showing the "situation" on 05/04/2016!

    Until lately the reports where indicative of Azeries having lost all of their initial "gains" in the NK, and there were reports that the Armenians had even advanced a little bit into previously Azeri-held territory.

    Of course, I don't think that there is any plan for things to stop here, especially with ...
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    Post  Godric Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:19 am

    TheArmenian wrote:
    Godric wrote:is this true from Colonel Cassad  ... that the azeri have taken about half of Karabakh ??

    http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2687994.html

    I guess you don't understand Russian.

    The red areas are regions of Karabagh involved in the fighting.

    nah i'm Scottish I have enough trouble understanding English ..... nah a Russian said that on Waff that the map showed the Azeris had captured half of the Karabakh .... I should have translated it first ... my bad
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    Post  AttilaA Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:21 am

    I will not repeat the same things, go on with your fairy tales.

    Meanwhile, targeted HQ buildings in Karabakh and destroyed Armenian T-72s.







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    Post  AttilaA Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:21 am

    KoTeMoRe wrote:Well, Azeris have strike drones indeed. They have IAI Harpy/Harop...

    https://twitter.com/M3t4_tr0n/status/717053776901894144


    Armenians are actually claiming that they shot it down? Laughing

    It's diving into its target.
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    Post  Kadmos45 Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:49 am

    PapaDragon wrote:

    USA, UK, France, etc used to be Serbia's allies... until they were not. Interest comes first, get used to it.

    You don't say. I think Armenia would want to know that they're disposable fools for Russia.
    Certainly i would not want to have anything to do with such an "ally", so i hope it isn't true.

    And Serbia was never important longtime ally for the West, like Armenia is/was for Russia.

    BTW. Could you guys point me to some official russian statements about this outright azeri agression ? I read some insane retired russian general quotes ( basically he said fck Armenia) , but i disregard this as his personal stupid opinions and not official russian stance.
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    Post  TheArmenian Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:56 am

    Please identify UAV types

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    Post  KoTeMoRe Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:21 pm

    AttilaA wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:Well, Azeris have strike drones indeed. They have IAI Harpy/Harop...

    https://twitter.com/M3t4_tr0n/status/717053776901894144


    Armenians are actually claiming that they shot it down? Laughing

    It's diving into its target.

    Ahem...you maybe watch out what it actually does after. Harpy nose dives and the explosion is pretty nasty. No explosion, no deton. Probably snaged and fried. The Harpies aren't clean cuts. They're expendable drones.

    Also TheArmenian are you 100% sure of your pictures?

    Because the first one looks like a MQ/9 that crashed in Afghanistan in 2014 and the other is a Chinese DH-1/3 toy drone.

    Actually, the MQ/9 is an MQ/9...

    http://dronewars.net/drone-crash-database/

    Also it apears the Azeris have shot previously their own drone (Orbiter AK) while claiming it was Armenian and now the Armenians have shot another Orbiter AK which indeed is Azeri...

    Lord. While Armenians really seem outmatched in hardware, Azeris seem overwhelmed by their own toys...


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    Post  TheArmenian Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:26 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    AttilaA wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:Well, Azeris have strike drones indeed. They have IAI Harpy/Harop...

    https://twitter.com/M3t4_tr0n/status/717053776901894144


    Armenians are actually claiming that they shot it down? Laughing

    It's diving into its target.

    Ahem...you maybe watch out what it actually does after. Harpy nose dives and the explosion is pretty nasty. No explosion, no deton. Probably snaged and fried. The Harpies aren't clean cuts. They're expendable drones.

    Also TheArmenian are you 100% sure of your pictures?

    Because the first one looks like a MQ/9 that crashed in Afghanistan in 2014 and the other is a Chinese DH-1/3 toy drone.

    Actually, the MQ/9 is an MQ/9...

    http://dronewars.net/drone-crash-database/

    Also it apears the Azeris have shot previously their own drone (Orbital AK) while claiming it was Armenian and now the Armenians have shot another Orbital AK which indeed is Azeri...

    Lord. While Armenians really seem outmatched in hardware, Azeris seem overwhelmed by their own toys...

    Thanks.
    That's why I asked. It did not look like any of the Israeli drones Azerbaijan has. But I am not very knowledgeable on drones. Hence my question.
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    Post  AttilaA Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:29 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:Ahem...you maybe watch out what it actually does after. Harpy nose dives and the explosion is pretty nasty. No explosion, no deton. Probably snaged and fried. The Harpies aren't clean cuts. They're expendable drones.

    And you came to that conclusion because it got out of the sight of camera? It clearly goes on further and the view is actually blocked.

    The one who films it has absolutely no idea of what it is, since he assumes that they had shot it down when it began to dive in full speed.


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    Post  KoTeMoRe Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:29 pm

    Armenians have shot down at least one more drone, just not the one in the picture.

    https://twitter.com/M3t4_tr0n/status/717277426234081281

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    Post  Neutrality Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:30 pm

    AttilaA wrote:I will not repeat the same things, go on with your fairy tales.

    So I take it that these so-called "Armenian provocations" are just Azeri made-up fairy tales used as an excuse to start an aggression against NKR? Hell, your ambassador in Moscow made it pretty clear that they are ready to solve this issue "in such a way that guarantees Azerbeijan's sovereignty".

    IMHO, if the Azeris continue their shenanigans the guys at the 102nd won't be sitting still forever. In fact, I think they already have exact coordinates on Azeri artillery.
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    Post  AttilaA Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:31 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:Thanks.
    That's why I asked. It did not look like any of the Israeli drones Azerbaijan has. But I am not very knowledgeable on drones. Hence my question.

    Thanks for exposing the lies of your officials. That was posted on facebook page of Artsrun Hovhannisyan, the spokesperson for Armenian MoD.

    He also posted these, which belong to Ukrainian conflict.

    http://www.tert.am/en/news/2016/04/05/smerch-rocket/1983689

    Go on and ignore me.


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    Post  KoTeMoRe Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:32 pm

    AttilaA wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:Ahem...you maybe watch out what it actually does after. Harpy nose dives and the explosion is pretty nasty. No explosion, no deton. Probably snaged and fried. The Harpies aren't clean cuts. They're expendable drones.

    And you came to that conclusion because it got out of the sight of camera? It clearly goes on further and the view is actually blocked.

    The one who films it has absolutely no idea of what it is, since he assumes that they had shot it down when it began to dive in full speed. And indeed had they shot it down, it would be done so before that stage.

    AttilA you should lay down the patriotic dope man. I'm being super impartial here.

    If the Harpy had gone boom the blast would have been heard far beyond the crash sound we hear.

    As a matter of fact the Azeris succeeded in hiting a C2 center with a Harpy and the video is online. The damage is nasty...
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    Post  AttilaA Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:35 pm

    Not Harpy but Harop.

    A very convincing argument. We clearly see it diving in the video, and nowhere being shot down.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:39 pm

    AttilaA wrote:
    TheArmenian wrote:Thanks.
    That's why I asked. It did not look like any of the Israeli drones Azerbaijan has. But I am not very knowledgeable on drones. Hence my question.

    Thanks for exposing the lies of your officials. That was posted on facebook page of Artsrun Hovhannisyan, the spokesperson for Armenian MoD.

    He also posted these, which belong to Ukrainian conflict.

    http://www.tert.am/en/news/2016/04/05/smerch-rocket/1983689

    Go on and ignore my post. And continue with your fairy tales.

    They're not tales, it's just bad stock. I posted the actual video...I can also post the same video of Azeri soliders shooting their OWN freaking Orbiter. And proudly diplaying the remnants (including the control box which is THE SAME than the one on video). If some one lies here, it's going to be tough to call out.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67rzl2vHlp4

    Idiots shootingtheir own drone calling it armenian...yeah, you want to brag?
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    Post  AttilaA Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:42 pm

    Yeah, bad stock. And you explain the photos of Smerch with what exactly? Bad stock?



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    Post  KoTeMoRe Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:42 pm

    AttilaA wrote:Not Harpy but Harop.

    A very convincing argument. We clearly see it diving in the video, and nowhere being shot down.

    It is marketed as Harpy 2/Harop...it's the same principle and only a bigger payload. It's the same open channel, it can get knocked the fuck out by jamming and it's a lot of expenditure for a small payload. Oil money, thug life...
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:47 pm

    AttilaA wrote:Yeah, bad stock. And you explain the photos of Smerch with what exactly? Bad stock?






    You wanna talk about your own guys shooting their own fucking Orbiter and calling it Armenian? Or losing a whole stick of SoF and playing dumb we lost nothing we be Thunderous Azeris? You really start sounding like a spoiled brat who flashes his dad American Express Platinum and calls it a day.

    You have some growing up to do, fer real. They shot at least ONE Azeri drone, and probably a second after shooting that ThunderB. This makes probably 3 drones downed by Armenia and a fourth Azeri drone by your own.

    I'm not taking sides here, but you should really tone down the arrogance. Last time some guy was bragging like that, in the area, he got the fucking boot by some rag tag dope dealers atop stople BMP's.

    So either chill and be factual or don't reply.

    This goes also for the Armenian corner. Although they're far less gung ho about this so far.
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    Post  Neutrality Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:48 pm

    He still hasn't replied to my comment Laughing

    I think we all know which side is the aggressor in this.
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    Post  AttilaA Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:50 pm

    WTF was that? Calm down your nerves. Very Happy

    How is any of that relevant to the blatant lies of Armenian MoD spokesperson.

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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:52 pm

    AttilaA wrote:I will not repeat the same things, go on with your fairy tales.

    Meanwhile, targeted HQ buildings in Karabakh and destroyed Armenian T-72s.

    youtube clip 1,2, and 3


    Attila,

    Don't you realize that ........., if these few clips are all the Azeries can show for all their claims, then the Azeri "forces" should have so far probably gotten clobbered pretty badly?

    PS: This is the last time I use the term "forces" in this context. Those who behead people and those who support the beheaders are terrorists.
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    Post  AttilaA Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:55 pm

    Are you guys really filled with that much delusion?

    Armenians themselves confirmed the loss of 7 tanks. Just like they confirmed the loss of positions, which is still in Azerbaijan's control. They have confirmed 31 killed, 26 "missing", 72 wounded.


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    Post  KoTeMoRe Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:56 pm

    AttilaA wrote:WTF was that? Calm down your nerves. Very Happy

    How is any of that relevant to the blatant lies of Armenian MoD spokesperson.


    It has the same relevance than Azeri National channel making an ass of their own armed forces and lies on air...while destroying their own hardware.

    It's called kif-kif. I'm going to call you the Teflon Dude. Bouncing everything that doesn't get to his tune.

    Fact is. From all accounts Azeris started this idiots round of killing and so far for all those means used the advances have been very small. The use of SUAV's has been the only bright side so far. Given you have relatively few of them, they might simple cost you an escalation you simply don't want to actually have. This has South Ossetia written all over it.

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    Post  AttilaA Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:57 pm

    And now you are an expert on Azerbaijani military? Azerbaijan signed a deal worth $1.6 billion with IAI back in 2012. A few of them indeed.


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