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    Post  LMFS Mon Nov 26, 2018 12:10 am

    Isos wrote:It was capable of carrying kh-35 since years ago. I doubt it will have the same max range with and without this missiles.
    Hey, only the fact that a helo can carry 650 kg missiles on its wings and fly with them is enough of an achievement for me! If it would not lose range because of carrying them it would be breaching the laws of physics and we don't want that to happen Very Happy
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    Post  GarryB Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:38 am

    Well it could carry two Kh-35s and two drop tanks to get that range back... besides you could send a small ship ahead with a helo pad and it could land closer to the target and refuel if you wanted...
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    Post  George1 Fri May 07, 2021 1:26 pm

    Interesting presentation for foreign customers of the ship version of the Ka-52K combat helicopter from Rosoboronexport.

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    Post  Gomig-21 Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:53 pm

    George1 wrote:Interesting presentation for foreign customers of the ship version of the Ka-52K combat helicopter from Rosoboronexport.


    That has to be the sickest attack helicopter out there to date! From the insane cockpit systems with the HUD and all the MFD screens and the OLS showing like an HD camera to the navigation system to the President-S self defense system to now the moveable gun (to some degree) which seems to be an improvement to the older and fixed one all the way to even the paint job! You can even tell that paint is nice and thick and flat and almost like a primer to guard against the salt environment. Really great stuff.

    This makes me wonder what happened to the Egyptian tender and if there is any info on an actual contract or did they back out of it because of CAATSA? I hope not because this thing is truly a beast and would serve the EN really well on its Mistrals.

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    Post  GarryB Sat Jul 10, 2021 7:38 am

    self defense system to now the moveable gun (to some degree) which seems to be an improvement to the older and fixed one

    The momentum generated by the main rotors is enormous and vastly more powerful than any tail rotor, which means even when flying at 180km/h the pilot can still turn the nose of the helicopter to the left or to the right... which means he can point the wing mounted weapons and gun and optics at targets that the helicopter is not flying directly towards.

    That is a huge advantage in combat in terms of untrained people on the ground who will tend to aim directly at the helicopter.

    It also means the gun can be attached to near the centre of gravity of the helicopter so when the gun is fired the helicopter is not shifted around so much by the recoil.

    Helicopters with undernose cannon turrets buck and move when the gun is fired, reducing accuracy performance.

    All the models of the Hokum are much more accurate with their guns and all have the ability to elevate and have a small range of limited traverse to aim precisely at a ground or air target.

    When the Commanche was the latest and best helicopter in the world one of the features they went on about was its ability to point its nose at a target... till Kamov started pointing out the nose pointing ability of any coaxial design and then they shut up.

    Needless to say the Commanche can't fly sideways at 180km/h.

    This makes me wonder what happened to the Egyptian tender and if there is any info on an actual contract or did they back out of it because of CAATSA? I hope not because this thing is truly a beast and would serve the EN really well on its Mistrals.

    Sounds like they are buying Su-35s so I would think Ka-52Ks will be ordered too...

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    Post  limb Sat Jul 10, 2021 12:56 pm

    George1 wrote:Interesting presentation for foreign customers of the ship version of the Ka-52K combat helicopter from Rosoboronexport.


    Damn,its kind of a bummer that they didnt present it to be able to carry the kh-35, LMUR, khrizantema and hermes, given that its a naval variant
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    Post  Mir Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:02 pm

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    Apparently it can also use the KH-31 asm/arm.


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    Post  limb Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:07 pm

    Mir wrote:Ka-52K for Russian Navy - Page 4 Asmkh310

    Im talking about the current rosoboronexport presentation. Is there any evidence Egyptians bought kh-35s fir their helos?
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    Post  Mir Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:17 pm

    limb wrote:

    Im talking about the current rosoboronexport presentation. Is there any evidence Egyptians bought kh-35s fir their helos?

    It would depend on the Egyptian requirements I guess - so it would depend on whether they want to operate it as an anti-ship helicopter or not, but it is certainly capable to do so.

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    Post  Gomig-21 Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:40 pm

    limb wrote:Im talking about the current rosoboronexport presentation. Is there any evidence Egyptians bought kh-35s fir their helos?

    I think we saw just one pic of the Egyptian Ka-52 armed with a KH-35 when President Sisi was inspecting one of the bases that houses the helos. And the Kh-38 as well as the Kh-59 and 3M-54 Kalibr are also part of the inventory but it's hard to tell if those are part of the MiG-29M's weapons package or interchangeable with the Ka-52's.
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    Post  Hole Sat Jul 10, 2021 8:56 pm

    Mir wrote:Ka-52K for Russian Navy - Page 4 Asmkh310

    Apparently it can also use the KH-31 asm/arm.

    That is a Kh-35.

    This is a Kh-31:

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    Post  Mir Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:03 pm

    Hole wrote:
    Mir wrote:Ka-52K for Russian Navy - Page 4 Asmkh310

    Apparently it can also use the KH-31 asm/arm.

    That is a Kh-35.

    This is a Kh-31:

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    Yes absolutely! The key phrase is "can also". I edited my post to say it can also carry the Kh-31 but I can see that it can be a bit confusing Smile

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    Post  Gomig-21 Sat Jul 10, 2021 11:43 pm

    Mir wrote:Ka-52K for Russian Navy - Page 4 98412210

    While that camo scheme is popular in country and many like it as do I, I still think it's missing a 3rd party color.  One that's not as dominant as the current two, but maybe a little bit of a light or dark green or even a reddish/maroon would highlight that desert camo pattern a bit better.  It just seems like it's missing something.

    Another thing I picked up off that great video presentation that I didn't know before was that the ejection system can be controlled by either pilot or co-pilot.  Very thoughtful engineering since it covers both pilots in case one of them is wounded or incapable of activating his own seat.  Seems like they thought of everything in designing all the systems for this helo.

    Speaking of the terrific cockpit display in the Ka-52, this pic of El Presidente has been making its rounds on social media and you get a good look at that cockpit.  Even looks like Sisi is admiring it!

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    Post  George1 Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:16 am

    Russian Helicopters continue work on the creation of the Ka-52K helicopter for the Russian Navy, a contract with the Ministry of Defense has been signed. This was announced by the general director of the holding, Andrei Boginsky.

    The Russian military department and "Russian Helicopters" signed a contract to continue the development work on the creation of a "sea" version of the Ka-52K helicopter. At the moment, work is underway to unify the marine version with the land one. The creation of the new helicopter should be completed by 2023.

    https://en.topwar.ru/185680-holding-vertolety-rossii-prodolzhil-raboty-po-sozdaniju-vertoleta-ka-52k-katran.html

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    Post  flamming_python Sat Aug 07, 2021 2:58 am

    George1 wrote:Russian Helicopters continue work on the creation of the Ka-52K helicopter for the Russian Navy, a contract with the Ministry of Defense has been signed. This was announced by the general director of the holding, Andrei Boginsky.

    The Russian military department and "Russian Helicopters" signed a contract to continue the development work on the creation of a "sea" version of the Ka-52K helicopter. At the moment, work is underway to unify the marine version with the land one. The creation of the new helicopter should be completed by 2023.

    https://en.topwar.ru/185680-holding-vertolety-rossii-prodolzhil-raboty-po-sozdaniju-vertoleta-ka-52k-katran.html

    Hang on a sec

    What helicopter has been provided to the Egyptians then to deploy on the Mistrals?
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    Post  Gomig-21 Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:13 am

    flamming_python wrote:

    Hang on a sec

    What helicopter has been provided to the Egyptians then to deploy on the Mistrals?

    Just the regular land attack Alligator version and they had the rotors on only a few of the 50 ordered modified to fold so they can store them and use them on the boats until the Katran tender is finalized, They didn't even get the wings modified to fold, just the rotors to bring them down the ramps but that's about it. A lot left in the Katran from composites to anti corrosive paints to carrying the massive KH-38 I think and other naval requirements that don't exist on the land versions that were temporarily and slightly modified.
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    Post  LMFS Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:19 am

    That was just bad reporting:

    Defense Ministry and Russian Helicopters to create marine version of Ka-52M helicopter

    https://ria.ru/20210806/vertolet-1744633690.html

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    Post  Mir Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:37 am

    flamming_python wrote:

    Hang on a sec

    What helicopter has been provided to the Egyptians then to deploy on the Mistrals?

    I posted this picture some time ago of the Egyptian KA-52 on the Mistral class. Notice the longer "wing" compared to the K version.

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