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    Moldova and Transnistria Situation Thread

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    Post  George1 Mon Nov 30, 2020 2:04 pm

    The Russian Federation comments on the statements of the President of Moldova on the need to withdraw the Russian contingent from Transnistria
    Today, 13: 59

    The new President of the Republic of Moldova Maia Sandu made a statement that is being actively discussed both in Moldova itself and in the Russian Federation. According to Ms Sandu, who took office just a few days ago, Russia must withdraw its military contingent from the banks of the Dniester.


    By the military contingent, Sandu means those soldiers who, according to her, do not belong to the peacekeeping group. We are talking about military personnel who are engaged in the protection of warehouses from weapons and ammunition. This is one of the largest arsenals in the entire post-Soviet space outside the Russian Federation. It is hard to imagine what could happen if the protection of this arsenal is removed or if it falls under the control of Moldovan troops, which, to put it mildly, do not feel loyalty to the unrecognized Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic.

    Experts and officials are reacting to the Moldovan president's statements.

    According to Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov, such issues have not yet been discussed with the new Moldovan president. At the same time, Peskov noted that Moscow expects a constructive dialogue and that the policy of the Moldovan leadership will be consistent.

    Russian expert circles note that this very statement by Sandu that Russia "must do something" looks more like the desire of the new Moldovan president to obtain approval from the West, rather than the actions of an independent politician. At the same time, it is added that Maya Sandu voiced her half-requirements-half-proposals without any negotiations directly with Russia - with the country, to whose leadership she indirectly appeals. This can hardly be called a constructive approach.

    https://en.topwar.ru/177615-v-rf-kommentirujut-zajavlenija-prezidenta-moldavii-o-neobhodimosti-vyvoda-rossijskogo-kontingenta-iz-pridnestrovja.html
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:56 pm

    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:Sandu is ahead in both the exit polls and in the counted votes (80% of the total votes counted till now)


    80% of the votes counted.  Sandu 51.7% Dodon 48.3%.  Now the ballots with the votes of the Moldavians resident abroad should arrive, most probably in favor of Sandu.

    https://t.me/aavst55/9976

    Well, they'll push a pro EU policy also toward assimilation by Romania.   This will have as consequence the independence of Transnistria and Gagauzia

    It's getting real predictable now, they'll force a war at Transnistria probably with the clown Zelensky waging a war from the other side. The end result will be Transnistria will finally have a coast to get resupplied, Novorossia's forces may actually get a greenlight to wage an offensive, and the final death-nail for Nord Stream II.

    If the ukrainians are so stupid to do that they will lose all the coast from the Danube to Mariupol. At least they will not have to worry about having a navy anymore. The few boats that they have will probably ok for the part of the dnester river that cross Galicia

    This is probably bluster/bluff but...

    After Sandu's words, Ukraine declared its readiness to "ensure the transit of Russian military" from Transnistria
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    Post  LMFS Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:42 pm

    I find it completely coherent with their stupidity. They consider being magnanimous enough to allow Russians through Ukro airspace, but of course only if it is to run away from Transnistira... Maybe they want to try blocking them if they need to support their peacekeepers and the population there, that is a very good idea if they want a new one tore on them... Rolling Eyes
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    Post  George1 Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:43 am

    Moldova is a weak state. They will not dare to attempt anything against transistria
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    Post  George1 Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:26 am

    How Russia can respond to Moldova's demands for the withdrawal of peacekeepers from Transnistria: versions and considerations


    Transnistria and Karabakh are two “hot spots” on the map of the post-Soviet space, which have much in common. And there, and there, conflict situations arose at approximately the same period, against the background of the collapse of the Soviet Union. Both the NKR and the PMR are still in the status of unrecognized republics, in fact possessing all the attributes of states - from symbols to the armed forces.

    Of course, the Russian military presence in Transnistria has never, to put it mildly, pleased the Moldovan side, behind which loomed Romania and then the EU, the US and NATO. Although it is the peacekeepers who have been and remain to this day the main guarantee of peace and security in the region, since no one can now promise that the conflict will not flare up with renewed vigor. The example of Karabakh is quite capable of inspiring the Moldovan authorities to take revenge against the PMR, if Russian peacekeepers leave there. Moreover, this time Ukraine will definitely help Chisinau, if only for reasons of anti-Russian solidarity.

    Annexing Transnistria to Moldova is much easier than incorporating Karabakh into Azerbaijan. First, there has never been such a level of interethnic tension in Transnistria. Secondly, the Russian population of the PMR is gradually flowing to Russia, where there are much more opportunities for implementation than in a republic that has been living in an economic and political blockade for many years. But, at the same time, the majority of Pridnestrovians, of course, do not want to find themselves in the position of second-class citizens in Moldova, where generations have already grown up that do not understand Russian and are oriented exclusively towards the West.

    Of course, Chisinau does not risk to act openly against the PMR while there are Russian peacekeepers. But the words of Maia Sandu are a wake-up call for both Tiraspol and Moscow. They promise the republic new problems, while they show the Russian Federation that its opponents are not going to abandon their plans.

    What measures can Russia take in response? I will present several versions and assumptions.

    Of course, any hostile actions on the part of Chisinau must meet with a clear answer. First of all, it can be economic sanctions, and not only in the form of a ban on the export or import of products, but also, for example, on limiting labor migration from this country to the Russian Federation. The measure is quite effective, given that many Moldovans, despite having a border with Romania, still prefer to go to work in Russia.

    Another measure is the recognition of the TMR status with all the ensuing consequences as a powerful measure of protection for the Russians living there. At least - a transparent hint from the officials.

    Yes, in relation to Russia and Transnistria, in this case, one can expect the introduction of new sanctions, including an attempt to completely blockade the PMR. But the Russians know how to break through any blockade ...

    On the other hand, Maia Sandu should think carefully about the consequences of the withdrawal of the peacekeeping contingent. If Chisinau expects that after this they will try to establish their power in the PMR by force, then it should be recalled: at least 220 thousand inhabitants of the PMR are citizens of the Russian Federation.

    A certain number of peacekeepers are now exactly the natives of the PMR with Russian citizenship, and it is clear that in the event of the start of aggressive actions against their homeland - Transnistria, they will act as they know and can. And Russia will not allow Moldova to start a war against the republic, which has a large number of Russian citizens. After all, in fact, it will be an aggression against the Russians, and therefore against Russia itself.

    There is no doubt about the sad ending of any aggressive actions against the PMR, but, of course, only if the republic, for some reason, is not decided to "merge" in Moscow itself, where there are not only those politicians who are ready to maintain ties with Transnistria ... Now, unfortunately, there is little to be surprised at, and even the most previously unimaginable scenarios may well become reality in a certain situation.

    https://en.topwar.ru/177658-kak-rossija-mozhet-otvetit-moldove-na-trebovanija-vyvoda-mirotvorcev-iz-pridnestrovja.html
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    Post  George1 Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:25 am

    Russia unlikely to accept demand for withdrawal of peacekeepers from Transnistria - Lavrov


    According to him, maintaining good relations with any country "require taking each other’s interests and previous agreements into account"

    MOSCOW, December 1. /TASS/. Moscow will hardly accept Moldovan President-Elect Maia Sandu’s demand for the withdrawal of Russian peacekeepers from Transnistria, Russian top diplomat Sergey Lavrov said at a press conference following an online meeting of the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) Council of Foreign Ministers on Tuesday.

    "It’s hard to say what Ms. Sandu meant when she pointed to the need to withdraw Russian peacekeepers, but it will hardly help resolve the issue and we will hardly be able to accept this kind of irresponsible demand. That’s a fact," Lavrov noted.

    According to him, maintaining good relations with any country "require taking each other’s interests and previous agreements into account."

    The Russian foreign minister emphasized that Russian peacekeepers were deployed to the conflict zone in accordance with decisions made by the five-plus-two group working to resolve the Transnistria issue and approved by the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE). Their priority task is to maintain stability in the region. "There is another group of Russian troops that guard ammunition depots in Cobasna. The depots are in poor condition and serious incidents can happen if there is no one left to monitor them," Lavrov said.

    The Russian top diplomat emphasized that after the deadlock in the process of resolving the Transnistria issue had been broken, more than half of Russian ammunition was removed from Transnistria and deactivated. "But when Chisinau stopped implementing agreements, Transnistria strongly refused to resume ammunition withdrawal. Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said earlier that we were ready to deactivate these hazardous items that are in poor condition but Chsinau and Tiraspol need to cooperate to make it happen," Lavrov stressed.

    Sandu earlier called for withdrawing Russian troops and ammunition from Transnistria and replacing Russian peacekeepers with an OSCE civilian monitoring mission.

    https://tass.com/politics/1230159

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    Post  Isos Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:07 am

    In diplomacy such "no" answer can be translated into "fuck you".

    It was a french diplomat in a video that said in diplomacy we don't say "no".
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:44 pm

    This is what you get for running off at the mouth you stinking horse c*u*n*t! Razz lol1
    #Moldova's parliament has voted in favour of limiting the powers of the president.
    This is consequence of Sandu's aggressive stance on Transnistria (she requested the withdrawal of Russian peacekeepers) that might ruin relations with #Russia again.

    https://ria.ru/20201203/moldaviya-1587538879.html

    https://twitter.com/Russ_Warrior/status/1334501865732648966

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    Post  Backman Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:32 am

    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:President of Moldova: A soft approach did not help us solve the Transnistrian problem
    So, does she want to use the Saakashvili approach for Transnistria?

    Appears that way yes. The Georgia model. The Ukraine model. The Armenia model.

    A #US citizen appointed to the post of adviser in the Ministry of Defense of #Moldova

    It is important to note that the US Ambassador to Chisinau introduced the new adviser to the Moldovan Minister.
    https://twitter.com/coolcock2/status/1333940512659820545

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    Post  kvs Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:29 pm

    Backman wrote:
    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:President of Moldova: A soft approach did not help us solve the Transnistrian problem
    So, does she want to use the Saakashvili approach for Transnistria?

    Appears that way yes. The Georgia model. The Ukraine model. The Armenia model.

    A #US citizen appointed to the post of adviser in the Ministry of Defense of #Moldova

    It is important to note that the US Ambassador to Chisinau introduced the new adviser to the Moldovan Minister.
    https://twitter.com/coolcock2/status/1333940512659820545


    And these chihuahua statelets run around posing as totally independent, brave and substantial. They are nothing more
    than colonies. We will have Moldovan generals reporting to the US embassy like the junta in El Salvador during the
    1980s. Because nothing says legit like grovelling at the feet of yanqui overlords.

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    Post  franco Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:04 pm

    Apparently the Moldovan parliament is curtailing the President's elect powers in regards to control of Security & Intelligence forces. She in return has called for protests on December 6th.
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    Post  kvs Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:00 pm

    franco wrote:Apparently the Moldovan parliament is curtailing the President's elect powers in regards to control of Security & Intelligence forces. She in return has called for protests on December 6th.

    Of course. All politicians elected or not who are not working for Uncle Swine-shit are not legitimate and we need rent-a-crowd mobs
    to remove them from power. Like in Iran where the "democracy"-loving USA destroyed real democracy.

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    Post  GarryB Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:48 am

    An interesting fact is that it was Russian peacekeepers here and in South Ossetia that essentially killed the CFE agreement... with EU countries complaining about Russian soldiers being deployed to these two regions semi permanently... which I thought was hilarious considering the US forces deployed to Europe both then and now....

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:57 am

    GarryB wrote:An interesting fact is that it was Russian peacekeepers here and in South Ossetia that essentially killed the CFE agreement... with EU countries complaining about Russian soldiers being deployed to these two regions semi permanently... which I thought was hilarious considering the US forces deployed to Europe both then and now....
    Projection is the name of the game for the Pentagram.
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    Post  franco Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:59 pm

    Is there a problem of peacekeepers in Transnistria

    The noise raised in the media in connection with the statement of the President-elect of Moldova Maia Sandu, in my opinion, testifies to the very short memory of journalists. You watch the speech of any political scientist, expert or journalist and you get the feeling that he heard about the Russian peacekeepers in the PMR for the first time only after the election of Sandu. Meanwhile, the issue of peacekeepers is raised there in certain circles no less than the issue of, for example, Nagorno-Karabakh or Georgia.

    The last such exacerbation was not so long ago, in 2018. Then several countries even initiated the adoption of a UN General Assembly resolution on the need to withdraw peacekeepers from the territory of Transnistria. The noise was very loud. Only now, the result is zilch. The General Assembly resolution is just a recommendatory decision. And the peacekeepers were brought there by the decision of the UN Security Council, which is binding on all UN member states.

    To understand where, why and when peacekeepers appeared in the Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic, it is necessary to look into our recent past. Such a view will help answer many questions of those who were not yet interested in this at that time due to their youth or lack of interest.

    A brief excursion into the history of the issue

    The reason for the emergence of the Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic (in the Moldovan version of the Dniester Moldavian Republic) was the parade of sovereignty, which was proclaimed by Gorbachev. Realizing that Moldova's goal in the future will be to join Romania, the population of Transnistria at the 2nd Extraordinary Congress of Deputies of all levels (Tiraspol, September 2, 1990) proclaims the creation of the Transnistrian Moldavian SSR.

    Under pressure from the party leadership of neighboring Ukraine and Moldova, on December 22, 1990, President Gorbachev issued a decree "On measures to normalize the situation in the SSR Moldova", in which he canceled the decisions of the Tiraspol congress on September 2.

    On August 25, 1991, the TMSSR adopted the "Declaration of Independence of the TMSSR". In response to this, on August 27, 1991, Moldova adopted Law No. 691 “On Declaration of Independence”, in which the decision of August 25 was declared null and void. On November 5, 1991, in connection with the beginning of the collapse of the USSR, the TMSSR was renamed into the PMR.

    Here it is necessary to clarify why a part of Moldova began to claim independence? Although for those who remember the 90s, there should not be such a question. How many problems did Russia have with Tatarstan and other autonomous republics?

    Throughout its long historyTransnistria belonged to several states at once. Initially, in the early Middle Ages, the Ulic Slavs and Tivertsy lived in this territory together with the Polovtsy and Pechenegs nomads. Then Transnistria passed to different owners. The Golden Horde, the Crimean Khanate, the Galicia-Volyn principality of Russia, the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, the Lesser Poland Province of the Polish Crown, the Hetmanate, the Commonwealth, the Russian Empire (according to the Yassy Peace Treaty of January 9, 1792).

    As you can see, the Pridnestrovians had enough legal, or rather, historical reasons for the formation of their own state. And in the Soviet period, Transnistria had nothing to do with Moldova. Until 1940, created by Grigory Kotovsky, the Moldavian Autonomous SSR was part of the Ukrainian SSR. By the way, according to many historians, it was in the MASSR that the idea of ​​Moldova as an independent state was born.

    Why Pridnestrovie is the "big brother" of Donbass

    What happened in the 90s in Transnistria is largely repeated today in Ukraine. Already in the late 80s - early 90s, the Moldovan intelligentsia began to actively advocate for the annexation of Moldova to Romania. This is done under the slogan "One people - one state." These ideas, naturally, did not agree with the east of the country, populated for the most part by Ukrainians, Russians, Armenians and other peoples of the USSR.

    In 1988, the Popular Front of Moldova, an anti-Russian nationalist organization, began to form and become more active. At the same time, the slogan “We are Romanians - and that's it” appeared on the front pages of many Moldovan newspapers.

    And then, for those who know the modern history of Ukraine, everything follows a template. On February 16, 1989, on behalf of the Writers' Union of Moldova, a draft law "On the functioning of languages ​​in the Moldavian SSR" was published. The main essence of this bill was that Moldovan became the state language, and for teaching Russian language to schoolchildren, for using Russian in government institutions, at enterprises, etc. administrative and even criminal penalties were imposed.

    On September 1, 1989, this law (“On the Functioning of Languages ​​on the Territory of the Moldavian SSR”) was adopted by the parliament and is still in effect.

    The counter-movement arose in Transnistria. Public organizations opposed the translation of the Moldovan language into Latin and for the introduction of two state languages. At the same time, in response to the creation of the “Popular Front of Moldrva”, the “Interdivision” (later called “Unitate-Unity”) was created there.

    Then, again, knowing how it happened in Ukraine, it is necessary to create a manual parliament. Remember "Suitcase-Station-Russia"? This is just from that time. Only with the addition of "Russians for the Dniester, Jews for the Dniester". There was a minority in the new parliament of Pridnestrovians, but this minority was constantly threatened and beaten. Isn't it Ukrainian lustration? Ultimately, the deputies returned home without finishing the session.

    And in Chisinau, marches have already taken place demanding to go to Tiraspol and Bendery. One of the marches to "calm down" Gagauzia, which also declared its independence, even took place. On September 6, 1991, the formation of its own military units in opposition to the Moldovan ones began in Transnistria.

    The blood that still boils

    Little is said about the beginning of the hot phase of the conflict. History (as well as the beginning of the conflict in Donbass) is being rewritten and turns into a completely indigestible jumble of fictions. Meanwhile, everything began in Dubossary on November 2, 1990. It was then that the Moldovan nationalists, with the support of the OPON of Moldova, arrived to cleanse the city from the separatists.

    The OPON column was stopped by local residents and police officers at the bridge. The Moldovan side today tells about the employees of the local police department of the fairy tale, as over-trained and equipped soldiers. Alas, only 135 cadets of the local police school under the leadership of 8 officers of the same school came to the aid of local residents. Agree, the capital's OPON against the cadet boys does not look like a weakling at all.

    By two o'clock in the afternoon, people gathered on the streets of Dubossary, by the way, at the signal of the GO sirens. A living wall stood on the streets of the city and did not allow OPON and nationalists to enter the city. The confrontation was all over the city. Naturally, in such a situation, the attackers need to intimidate the defenders. Which was done at 15:30. The defenders opened fire from machine guns. The result is three dead and 9 wounded.

    Sacred sacrifices worked the other way around. The defenders of the city not only were not afraid, but also began to prepare to strike at OPON at night. The command became aware of this, and the police simply fled the city. The same thing happened at the checkpoints, which were organized by OPON along the way.

    So, at one of the police posts, women were chased away, who came from the nearest village and with a rake drove out the "servants of law and order" from their native land. And the men from the village of Dzerzhinskoe just gathered to take the post in the ring and disarm the police. Upon learning of this, the police fled to a nearby town.

    I will not talk about the numerous clashes that took place after Dubossary. Anyone who is interested can easily find materials on that war. The scheme of the war is also about the same as in the Donbass. Point operations and sniper. Both sides successfully wrested weapons and military equipment from units of the 14th Army. Moldovans intimidated civilians by shelling villages from cannon and rocket artillery.

    The Russian 14 army, despite the fact that units and subunits were often attacked from both sides, despite the loss of personnel, remained strictly neutral and did not participate in the conflict. True, it should be recognized that some units, consisting of local residents, went over to the side of Transnistria, took the oath and acted as combat units of the republic's defenders.

    In addition, volunteers from Russia and other republics of the former USSR began to arrive in Transnistria (again, an analogy with Donbass). Russia could no longer stand on the sidelines of the conflict, and on July 7, 1992, representatives of Moscow arrived in Transnistria to resolve the conflict. The Moldovan government resigned and on July 21 an agreement was signed “On the principles of the settlement of the armed conflict in the Transnistrian region of the Republic of Moldova”.

    Peacekeepers and the operational group of Russian troops in Transnistria

    In fact, the 14th army in many respects, even participating in the conflict, performed peacekeeping functions in Transnistria back in 1992. This is the opinion of the citizens of the unrecognized republic. That is why the Republic annually celebrates the Day of the Entry of the Russian Peacekeeping Forces on July 29. The agreement mentioned above made it possible to do this officially. Thus, this year marks the 28th anniversary of Russia's peacekeeping mission in the region.

    Strange, but for many readers it is news that the MS in Transnistria consist not only of Russian military personnel, but also of Moldovan and Transnistrian ones. As well as the fact that the soldiers of the 14th Army were not the peacekeepers.

    The countdown of Russia's peacekeeping activities has been going on since the landing of peacekeepers at the airfield in Tiraspol in 1992. The 14th Army is the backbone of the operational group of Russian troops in Transnistria. If we consider the current situation, the task force is subordinate to the command of the 14th Army.

    The Russian peacekeepers received a mandate from the UN Security Council for their activities and now represent this very international organization. The MS of Russia includes two battalions of peacekeepers - the 82nd separate guards motorized rifle battalion (military unit 74273) and the 113th separate guards motorized rifle battalion (military unit 22137). Both battalions consist of 4 motorized rifle companies, command and control platoons, grenade launcher, technical support, material support and medical support.

    In addition to the peacekeeping battalions, which directly serve on the line of contact, the operational group includes the 540th separate command battalion (military unit 09353), which is engaged in the protection and disposal of ammunition stored in the arsenal. This battalion consists of a security company (a command company, 4 security platoons, a security department of the military prosecutor's office and a security department of military counterintelligence), a communications center, a feldeger communications station, an engineer platoon, a department for storage and disposal of weapons and military equipment, a maintenance company, a logistics company, a fuel depot, a training ground and a military band.

    The total number of the operational group in Transnistria is only about 1,700 people.


    Above, I talked about the political component of the conflict, but there is one more component that needs to be mentioned. This is an arsenal, which today is the world's largest storage of weapons and ammunition. Both Moldovans and Ukrainians perfectly understood the cost of this arsenal. Especially considering the fact that in the post-Soviet and former socialist countries, the weapons were Soviet.

    That is why they did not take this stuff out to the territory of Russia in due time. Ukraine did not give a passage for the removal of ammunition. She did not dare to destroy ammunition on her territory, although this option was proposed. Nobody knows how much and what is there now. Former warehouses of the two border districts of the SA and ammunition removed from European countries.

    According to some experts, if the arsenal for some reason takes off into the air, the explosion will be equivalent to the explosion of a nuclear weapon with a yield of 10 kilotons or more. It is almost impossible to take out these goods today. Simply because during storage, including in the open air, the ammunition could undergo corrosion, some changes, and now it is even dangerous to touch them. Sappers are engaged in this in the 540th battalion.

    What's next?

    Maya Sandu's speech and numerous statements by Moldovan politicians about the withdrawal of peacekeepers from the PMR are just a report to Western curators about their readiness to be at the forefront of the fight against Russia. In fact, already in her next speech, Sandu abruptly "backed down", saying that she was not going to spoil relations with Russia.

    Moreover, there were so many attempts to withdraw Russians from the PMR that no one intends to count them. The last time it happened was two years ago, when the issue was even raised at the UN General Assembly. The Assembly even passed a resolution on the need for such a conclusion. "On the complete and unconditional withdrawal of foreign armed forces from the territory of the Republic of Moldova." Only now this resolution is interpreted in an original way. Its essence is to withdraw the task force, not the peacekeepers.

    Moldovan politicians are well aware that neither Russia nor the PMR will ever agree to the withdrawal of peacekeepers from Transnistria if Moldova continues its policy of joining Romania. And over the past 28 years, the republic has practically taken shape as an independent state. All the institutions necessary for the state have been created, a legal system has been created. And now the Pridnestrovian republic does not depend on Moldova at all.

    The presence of a huge arsenal in the PMR, which needs to be eliminated, has become an excellent brake for those who like radical solutions. There is no state in the world today that would agree to dispose of as much dangerous ammunition as is left in the arsenal. Simply put, the 540th battalion must leave! And what will the arsenal become then? A huge atomic bomb in the center of Europe?

    Have you talked? Declared? Raised concerns?

    We continue to live on ...

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    Post  franco Sun Dec 06, 2020 1:19 pm

    Sandu aims for absolute power

    President-elect Maia Sandu is apparently starting to take away real power in Moldova from Igor Dodon. His supporters suddenly agreed to start negotiations on the early dissolution of parliament, although no one forced them to do so. On the agenda is the resignation of the government, which has real power in the country. And this weekend Sandu is taking his supporters to the Maidan.

    On Sunday, in Chisinau, on the Great National Assembly Square, a rally will be held in support of the elected President Maia Sandu. She herself on Friday called her supporters to gather as a sign of disagreement with the parliament, which had passed several bills a day earlier, including reducing the powers of the president. In particular, in the first reading, the deputies approved the transfer of the Republic's Security Service under their control.

    In addition, the deputies staged a demarche to the American embassy. The previous decision to grant the territory of the republican stadium to the United States for a new diplomatic mission was canceled by a majority vote.

    In response, Sandu called on the government to resign and parliament to go ahead of schedule for re-elections. As the president-elect writes on Facebook, she called Prime Minister Ion Chic and told him that the government's draft budget contains corruption schemes. “I told him that the country needs a different parliament and a different government. The resignation of the government is the shortest path to this goal, ”Sandu said.

    Igor Tulyantsev, chairman of the Moldovan public movement Motherland - Eurasian Union, is confident that it will not be possible to organize a mass rally on Sunday. “The slogans of the Sandu Party Action and Solidarity (PAS) for the upcoming rally have nothing to do with the agenda that Sandu announced at the beginning, proposing to resist parliamentary attempts to limit presidential powers and block her assumption of the presidency. Now her party proposes to express its anger over minor problems, in particular, the status of the Chisinau stadium, ”Tulyantsev said. The politician expressed hope that common sense will prevail among the townspeople and they will not come to this rally and thereby protect their health from the coronavirus.

    Moldovan human rights activist and former political prisoner Pavel Grigorchuk believes that the upcoming rally may be small due to cold weather and quarantine requirements. However, according to the interlocutor, the majority of the population really does not want to put up with the current composition of parliament. “People see that the deputies run from one party to another, and it is quite obvious that for the money.

    Sandu has much more legitimacy in the eyes of society than parliament. Almost a million citizens voted for Sandu.

    Not a single politician, not a single party in Moldova has gained so many votes, ”said Grigorchuk.

    Having curtailed presidential powers, parliament also approved in the first reading a law on the functioning of languages. It fixes the status of the language of interethnic communication for the Russian. This will allow newspapers and magazines to be published in Russian. TV and radio programs from Russia will return to the air. And government agencies will be required to provide citizens with information, including in Russian. By the way, Sandu, once a member of the government, achieved restrictions on the use of the Russian language.

    The European Union condemned the adopted laws. The EU's foreign service noted that the bills were put forward "in a hurry and in a non-transparent manner," and the voting itself "took place in conditions that did not allow observing all the necessary parliamentary procedures."

    The Kremlin noted on this occasion that they are glad to any lifting of restrictions on the Russian language. As the press secretary of the president Dmitry Peskov noted, "one way or another, Russian is and will be spoken in the space of the former Soviet Union." As for the restrictions on presidential power, the Kremlin spokesman called this an internal affair of Moldova.

    On Friday, PAS challenged the law restricting the powers of the president in the Constitutional Court (CC). Sandu's party members also promise to challenge the decision on the status of the Russian language in the Constitutional Court.

    Tulyantsev has no doubts that the Constitutional Court will satisfy the claim, since the procedure for adopting laws was clearly violated. The law was passed in two readings at once without discussion. The fact that the decision to change control over the Security Service was made simultaneously with the law on raising the status of the Russian language, with a clear violation of the procedure, according to Tulyantsev, only discredits the parliament.

    In turn, Dodon accused the successor of "sowing chaos" and organizing senseless protests instead of taking responsibility for the situation in the country. “Citizens, do not allow yourself to be manipulated, why should we now take people out to infect them with coronavirus? Those who are wreaking havoc must take responsibility for the country, ”the president said.

    The President of Moldova cannot dissolve either the government or parliament. He has no leverage to put pressure on parliament. In theory, Dodon's supporters could safely continue to rule the country until 2023 - until the expiration of the parliamentary term.

    However, the Party of Socialists of the Republic of Moldova (PSRM), that is, supporters of Dodon, on Friday unexpectedly met Sandu's demands and invited other political forces to discuss the issue of early re-elections. As Vice Speaker Vlad Batryncha, representing the PSRM faction, admitted, “this parliament is not fully functional” and his party is ready to start negotiations on early elections. However, observers do not exclude that this is only a tactical move of the PRSM, designed to drag out time.

    According to Grigorciuc, in the presidential elections, the majority of Moldovans voted not so much for Sandu as against Igor Dodon and the system of corruption he inherited from the oligarch Vlad Plahotniuc. Therefore, Sandu must show that by organizing protests against parliament, she is fighting against the legacy of corruption, so as not to lose people's trust.

    The MPs from the parliamentary majority understand perfectly well that in the event of early elections they will definitely not get into the next convocation. “Therefore, a temporary coalition was formed in parliament between the deputies of Plahotniuc and Dodon. To break this coalition, Sandu must resort to rallies. The demonstrators will demand the resignation of the current government, which is quite realistic. The Cabinet is absolutely unpopular, ”the source said.

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    Post  LMFS Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:43 am

    This Sandu scumbag is really not sparing any effort to make it clear she is a foreign agent is she? The West is really desperate

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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:58 pm

    I am curious to see what will happen to those independent countries (like Romania or Bulgaria) after the dissolution of the European Union.

    The only appeal Romania has is the fact that with a Romanian passport they can live in France, Germany or Italy and receive welfare without never having lived or worked there before. This kind of bullshit made UK go separate ways.

    After this will be no more, I can expect many new Romanians (current moldavians) trying to emigrate to gagauzia and transnistria, especially if these 2 regions will have joined the Euroasian economic union. Or maybe more of them will go looking for opportunities in Russia proper...

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    Post  franco Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:15 pm

    Sandu's party failed the Maidan in Chisinau

    Literally on Thursday, the West received a deafening slap in the face from the Moldovan parliament - the new (unofficial, but quite functional) majority adopted a number of laws directed against the European Union and the United States. The "curators" apparently had high hopes for the mass protest in Chisinau, scheduled for Sunday, December 6th. But what happened was what should have happened - the political forces on which the stake was made cannot and / or do not want to carry out effective and / or effective actions that can unite society.

    People familiar with the Moldovan realities realized in advance that they would not make any drastic steps this time. Otherwise, the protest would have been scheduled for a weekday - what's the use of gathering people outside the empty parliament building. On the other hand, the day off allows you to gather more people, make a beautiful picture and prepare for other, more significant actions, such as blocking the parliament and / or government at the time of making important decisions.

    The picture did not work. Even having started an hour later than the announced date, the right-wingers were able to gather no more than three thousand people. True, towards the end their number increased to about five thousand. The presenter of the rally, Marcela Adam (a staff member of the party of the newly elected President Maya Sandu and a consultant to her parliamentary faction), all the time diligently ignored the issue of the number of protesters, speaking on duty phrases that “the most responsible citizens gathered on the square”, and in general the country "there are more than a million of us" (only this million, apparently, is not so responsible). True, at the end of the rally she blurted out that there were ... fifty thousand people. So to speak, I was wrong.

    And, actually, what else was there to do? Even taking into account the harsh cold weather, it is somehow frivolous to collect three to five thousand, claiming to unite the entire opposition. In 2010-13, the Moldovan communists "in solo" collected 10-20 thousand even in the winter cold, and in the warm season no less than fifty thousand took part in their marches (during the May holidays it was up to a hundred).

    The motivated audience was also so-so. On video broadcasts, it is noticeable that even the first rows do not listen to the speakers, talking through masks about something of their own, and the back ones sometimes did not notice at all that the speaker had changed on the stage.

    The selection of speakers was also peculiar. Most of the time was taken by Sandu's party associates (Igor Grossu, Veronica Rosca), but her parliamentary colleagues in the pro-European sector were represented only by Vice-Speaker Alexander Slusar from the Dignity and Truth Platform.

    In general, Slusar is always allowed to speak at such rallies (even to the detriment of his party boss Andrei Nastase) - simply because he is the only Russian-speaking leader of the right-wing parties. Give him a microphone - and refer to too meticulous observers who demand multiculturalism. And Mr. Slusar himself is noted only with the usual phrases about the fact that "everyone should unite regardless of the language."

    Only then a whole chorus of radical unionists, supporters of unification with Romania, performed on the stage. Although, as shown by the presidential elections, both local and parliamentary, they represent a very small segment of voters, while their anti-rating is huge.

    Octavian Cicu, a political scientist and a former successful boxer, came out (once the Americans tried to mold him into a "Moldovan Klitschko", but he preferred to run to Bucharest). And he called for Moldova to be included in Romania and "so enter the European Union and defeat corruption."

    Former Chisinau mayor Dorin Chirtoaca came out, received one percent of the vote in the presidential elections and began to frighten everyone with the fled oligarch Plahotniuc, delicately forgetting how he himself fulfilled all the wishes of the latter, but most importantly, he began to recall the events of 1989 (when he was 11 years old), as well as about the execution of the Ceausescu couple in Romania. Why - no one understood.

    Alexander Slusari said the usual words about the unification of all nationalities, but his words went into the sand: already the next speaker proposed to include Moldova in Romania.

    And the first party deputy Sandu - the scandalous deputy Igor Grossu - also did not do without strange statements. For example, he said that "Dodon took the bags from Putin and Plahotniuc." Well, the outgoing president and socialist leader Igor Dodon was indeed often called a "bag" after the publication of a video in which he receives money in a bag from Plahotniuc - only from the same video it follows that in this way Dodon is deceiving just Russian partners ... the notorious Putin bags?

    But not to remember Mr. Gross that the oligarch Plahotniuc, hated by the people, was actively supported by the functionaries of the US Democratic Party, and not "evil Putin" ...
    Whom Sandu has offended

    Those who supported the protest included former Prime Minister Pavel Filip (Democratic Party of Moldova) and former Speaker of Parliament Adrian Candu (Pro Moldova platform). Both are Plahotniuc's confidants. And the fact that they were not given the floor at the rally is not at all a surprise.

    It was a surprise - and a very unpleasant one - that the Sandu associates did not distance themselves from these toxic figures. They have not announced that they do not need such "support". Otherwise, opposition activists have already joked online that "if Plahotniuc himself had arrived, Sandu would not have kicked him out of the protest."

    But on the same level with Filip and Candu, the organizers of the rally rated the Mayor of Balti, the leader of Our Party Renato Usatii. In the presidential elections, he took a confident third place and supported Sandu in the second round. He called on his supporters to come to the rally and arrived himself accompanied by the nearest team, including the mayors of regional centers in the north of the country.

    Usatii was not given the floor. They did not even thank from the podium. The Balti mayor stood sadly in the crowd and languidly waved the flag. At that moment, even political opponents felt sorry for him ...

    The members of Our Party spent the rest of the day rinsing Sanda for all the good things on social networks. So mediocre the Moldovan politicians have not lost their allies.

    Sandu spat in the face and the Dignity and Truth Platform, with which relations seem to have begun to improve - the “platformist” deputies blocked the parliamentary rostrum for only three days in order for President Sandu to gain control over the special services ... and then she received a sophisticated “gratitude”.

    In addition to the aforementioned Tsuku and Kirtake, Vasily Kostyuk, chairman of the Democracy at Home party, who provided a platform for radical nationalists in the parliamentary campaign, called on “to fine for Russian speech as for foul language”, spoke at the rally. But that's not even the point - after all, this party consists of Kostyuk himself and several of his relatives.

    The situation is different: in the state language, the abbreviation of the House of Democracy Party is written in the same way as the Dignity and Truth Platforms (both PDA). And it went to the parliamentary elections on Plahotniuc's direct instructions - to take votes from the platformists for confusion account, it was Openel's secret ...

    Nastase has not yet commented on this abuse. But Slusar has already stated that the platform itself will organize the next protest - scheduled for December 10. At the same time when Sandu will take the oath of the president ... but the platform no longer wants to trust the new president to organize something.

    In a word, the “united opposition” in Moldova split, not even having time to form.

    And, actually, what else was expected? Do you think the "moderate right" are turning to radical unionists for help because they want to share power with someone? No, it's just that the pro-Romanian unionists do not know how to achieve success in elections, but they know how to gather at least someone for action (since in Bucharest they are paid to create visibility. "

    Sandu's party showed that it cannot even create appearance. With such shots, you can't "namaydan" much.

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    Post  Regular Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:48 pm

    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:I am curious to see what will happen to those independent countries (like Romania or Bulgaria) after the dissolution of the European Union.

    The only appeal Romania has is the fact that with a Romanian passport they can live in France, Germany or Italy and receive welfare without never having lived or worked there before.  This kind of bullshit made UK go separate ways.

    After this will be no more, I can expect many new Romanians (current moldavians) trying to emigrate to gagauzia and transnistria,  especially if these 2 regions will have joined the Euroasian economic union. Or maybe more of them will go looking for opportunities in Russia proper...

    Gypsies will always survive. What's the difference where they will be begging - Russian or EU money. They never tried to survive on their own

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    Post  kvs Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:45 pm

    So we see the routine 10x inflation of protestor numbers. Jezus H. Christ, people are such morons. They do not even have
    the mental capacity to evaluate the crowd size from context. There is no way that 50,000 people gathered in a mob would
    resemble 5,000 people. Not only do we have symbolic innumeracy we also have visual innumeracy. That is the definition of
    retardation.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:52 pm

    The more I think about it, this Ms. Sandu reminds me of Elizabeth Holmes, the CEO of Theranos...in fact all these Soro's kept creatures and Manchurian Candidates seemed to be built in the same charlatan mold. Rolling Eyes

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    Post  kvs Thu Dec 31, 2020 6:50 pm

    Nobody with substance and normal self-respect instead of narcissism would become a whore for Soros. So we have Navalny
    grifter types being pushed into every orifice.

    All of these star chamber deciders are retards in the final analysis. They endlessly saw at the branch on which they are sitting.
    The Sorosite maggots are destroying the west. So Soros and his pals will be in charge of a rotting corpse after all of
    their power grabs reach their logical conclusion.

    I expect the Biden regime to be on a whole new plane of corruption even by US standards. MASH: Make America a Shit Hole.



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    Post  magnumcromagnon Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:16 pm

    It was only 5 months ago that Ms. Sandu was demanding the forced expulsion of Russian peacekeepers from Transnistria, now she's groveling on her knees begging for Sputnik V! Razz clown Razz clown

    Sandu asked Moscow to urgently send "Sputnik V"

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    Moldovan President Maia Sandu appealed to his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin with a request to provide a batch of Sputnik V coronavirus vaccine. She announced this on Friday evening during the program “Friday with Anatoly Golya” on the RTR-Moldova TV channel.

    “Today I signed an official letter to Russian President Vladimir Putin. We ask for help, to provide a batch of Sputnik V vaccine. We also ask for assistance in purchasing a vaccine, since our country is in dire need of vaccines against coronavirus, ”Sandu said.

    She said that she made a similar request to the heads of other states that produce vaccines.

    “We will be grateful for any help. We also allocated money. The previous government and current parliament did not bother to budget funds for the purchase of the vaccine. But we have found these funds in order to purchase vaccines, as it is vital for the country, ”the President stressed.

    Answering the questions of the presenter, she categorically denied the assertions of some Moldovan politicians that “the Moldovan authorities are creating obstacles in the delivery of the Russian vaccine to Moldova”.

    Answering a question about a possible visit to Moscow, she said that "the visit is not planned yet, but there are contacts with Russia."

    “We are interested in developing cooperation with Russia in all areas. The visit is not planned yet. We have a difficult situation with the coronavirus pandemic. For this reason, I have already had to cancel several foreign visits that were planned for April, ”the head of state said.

    http://k-politika.ru/sandu-poprosila-moskvu-srochno-prislat-sputnik-v/?utm_source=finobzor.ru

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