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    China's Military and Geopolitics

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    Post  miketheterrible Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:42 pm

    Yes, but that isn't a war. That was a mob gang fight. Of course they would fight with hand to hands. And the deaths are attributed to soldiers falling off cliffs. Not from breaking necks like they are Steven Seagal.

    If a "war" ever broke out, they would be shooting each other and hand to hand becomes useless.
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    Post  Isos Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:11 pm

    Yeah I know. I was pointing out why the propaganda move (sending the martial art guy there) was made. ==> because they fought with hands and stupid media are probably quoting some stupid retired soldier talking about how their martial arts are better than the other's....

    You know, total stupidity.
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    Post  jhelb Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:41 pm

    Isos wrote:During the last incident they were fighting with hands. 20 indians deads and (unofficial) 40 chineses.
    Not a single dead body of a PLA soldier was found. Those Indians made up those figures. China has not accepted that figure of 40 either.
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    Post  Isos Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:11 pm

    jhelb wrote:
    Isos wrote:During the last incident they were fighting with hands. 20 indians deads and (unofficial) 40 chineses.
    Not a single dead body of a PLA soldier was found. Those Indians made up those figures. China has not accepted that figure of 40 either.

    Chinese are not reliable either.

    If india had 20 deads you can expect deads on the other side too.

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    Post  jhelb Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:56 pm

    Isos wrote:If india had 20 deads you can expect deads on the other side too.
    Maybe the Indians have also lost more than 20 soldiers. They are not disclosing it.
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    Post  Sujoy Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:02 pm

    Isos wrote:Yeah I know. I was pointing out why the propaganda move (sending the martial art guy there) was made. ==> because they fought with hands and stupid media are probably quoting some stupid retired soldier talking about how their martial arts are better than the other's....

    You know, total stupidity.
    Chinese state media is also saying the same thing. That PLA is sending martial artists to Ladakh

    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3090840/china-recruits-mma-fighters-tibet-border-militia
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    Post  GarryB Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:03 am

    Wasn't it Enter the Dragon, where Bruce Lee was going to an island to fight some bad guys and he asked where the guns were.... experts know better than anyone else that you can spend decades learning to fight and becoming a master at a variety of fighting skills, but any idiot can be handed a shot gun loaded with buckshot and drop you from 20m away and there is not much you can do about it...

    The point is that in this case the enemies are not idiots on either side... being trained in hand to hand fighting gives you confidence, but even a pistol or a knife makes much more sense.

    I saw a documentary the other day that was actually quite good where they got trained fighters (trained with old weapons) to fight it out with weapons made safe but with referees checking for hits and scores and potential injuries. The spear was vastly superior to any kind of sword simply because you could reach and stab him and with your sword... even a long sword you can't reach and stab him... you can only deal with his spear...

    Most RPG gamers would be crushed to learn this but it is true.

    Equally 10,000 trained ninjas would not defeat 500 soldiers with assault rifles in the mountains... most of the time there is no way to sneak up on positions... and falls and avalanches and the cold are just as dangerous as bullets and hands and feet.

    In fact at altitude the real danger is actually feet or should I say metres... pulling a trigger is much easier that climbing around and physically fighting someone in such conditions.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:08 pm

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/hisutton/2020/07/17/china-sends-flanker-fighter-jets-to-south-china-sea-amid-tensions/#3c2f7e302f73

    They may deploy more fighters if need be-this may be an advance party.

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    Post  Sujoy Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:14 am

    Pakistan and China have entered a three-year deal to expand potential bio-warfare capabilities

    Wuhan Institute of Virology has signed the covert deal with Pakistan military’s Defense Science & Technology Organization (DESTO), to collaborate research in “emerging infectious diseases” and advance studies on the biological control of transmitted diseases.

    https://www.theklaxon.com.au/home/xdx17f6auh0tew0g57ubqrzxkdeux9
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Thu Aug 27, 2020 1:15 am

    By controlling the southern flank of the waters near Taiwan, China is preparing for an encirclement that would, as its most important components, not be a potentially disastrous Normandy-style invasion. Any invasion attempt would include military pressure as well as cyberattacks aimed at paralyzing Taiwan’s crucial infrastructure.
    https://asiatimes.com/2020/08/us-doubles-down-on-taiwan-ties-to-poke-china/?mc_cid=ad9759c8ad&mc_eid=5455568640

    https://asiatimes.com/2020/08/taiwan-to-boost-invasion-defenses-with-us-weapons/

    https://asiatimes.com/2020/08/china-ups-ante-as-us-support-bolsters-taiwan/?mc_cid=d11a42f666&mc_eid=5455568640

    https://asiatimes.com/2020/08/us-china-sea-tensions-hot-and-getting-hotter/?mc_cid=a94ad20b7a&mc_eid=5455568640

    https://asiatimes.com/2020/08/china-accused-of-spying-on-australia-naval-build-up/?mc_cid=8ac6cc75a3&mc_eid=5455568640

    https://asiatimes.com/2020/08/china-flexes-at-us-in-four-seas-show-of-force/?mc_cid=4fcea32b9e&mc_eid=5455568640

    https://asiatimes.com/2020/08/why-there-wont-be-a-us-china-war/?mc_cid=1fffd75694&mc_eid=5455568640

    https://asiatimes.com/2020/08/the-eurasian-century-has-already-begun/?mc_cid=4fcea32b9e&mc_eid=5455568640

    https://www.juancole.com/2020/08/bruited-investment-beijing.html

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/27/world/asia/missiles-south-china-sea.html

    https://asiatimes.com/2020/08/us-china-blast-and-bluster-towards-a-sea-clash/?mc_cid=d5267194a3&mc_eid=5455568640


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    Post  AlfaT8 Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:25 pm

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:09 am

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    Post  GarryB Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:09 pm

    Western propaganda telling us not to believe Chinese propaganda...

    Americans are more willing to die for their country because they get more practise?

    Really?
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:52 pm

    https://asiatimes.com/2020/10/cambodia-opens-the-way-for-chinese-naval-presence/?mc_cid=44fba41ebe&mc_eid=5455568640

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTxo2YMpHu0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZJGt9hF438


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    Post  Tsavo Lion Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:08 pm

    SCO Summit and the Russian-Chinese Alternative of the Future
    https://regnum.ru/news/polit/3112142.html
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:00 am

    https://asiatimes.com/2020/11/why-china-prefers-to-maintain-inflamed-borders/?mc_cid=9a52e89448&mc_eid=5455568640
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:17 pm

    China’s Ministry of Justice has drafted new rules that would restrict how foreign religious groups and worshipers operate. The draft rules are intended to prevent the spreading of what the government calls "religious extremism" or use of religion "to undermine China's national or ethnic unity." They could usher in strict new requirements for holding services, including describing the primary religious texts used, listing the nationality and visa status of all attendees and obtaining special permits. Chinese President Xi Jinping has historically been harsh on organized religion and has overseen a major clampdown on Uyghurs and other Muslim minority groups, as well as other campaigns against Christians and Tibetan Buddhists. CNN


    https://asiatimes.com/2020/11/amid-us-chaos-china-lures-japan-and-korea/?mc_cid=f0afc18626&mc_eid=5455568640



    https://asiatimes.com/2020/11/bidens-mission-unite-japan-and-south-korea/?mc_cid=1abce61ef5&mc_eid=5455568640

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    Post  GarryB Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:05 am

    Sadly, this is the fault of the west... traditionally the CIA has infiltrated countries by buying up or influencing their news media, which has resulted in the undermining of the free press and abuses of power.

    They do the same with religion too.

    Of course the west will squeal about these laws, just like they squeal about the rights of a free press... except RT and Sputnik and of course Julian Assange.

    Certain religions and media are not to be interfered with... we will tell you which.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:51 pm

    China launches fourth and final LMS for Royal Malaysian Navy



    The RMN, like the PN & BN, is de-facto part of the PLAN as far as India should be concerned. 
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    Post  GarryB Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:47 am

    If India had any brains they would order a new aircraft carrier to be built by China and get weapons and systems installed from Russian and Indian companies....

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:19 am

    She may be able to do it only after she stops claiming disputed border areas, accepts PRC control over Tibet, kicks Dalai Lama out, improves relations with Pakistan, cuts ties with Taiwan & stops exercising with US & Japan.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:12 am

    China to strengthen military coordination with Russia

    https://sputnik-georgia.ru/columnists/20201227/250452746/Kogo-ispugali-bombardirovschiki-Rossii-i-Kitaya-nad-Tikhim-okeanom.html


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    Post  GarryB Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:44 am

    She may be able to do it only after she stops claiming disputed border areas, accepts PRC control over Tibet, kicks Dalai Lama out, improves relations with Pakistan, cuts ties with Taiwan & stops exercising with US & Japan.

    All those conditions... China is starting to sound like the US... it is little wonder they generally buy from Russia...
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sat Jan 02, 2021 6:18 pm

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