Russian Auto Industry

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The Ministry of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation presented a 422-horsepower tractor BAZ-S36A11 of domestic production

Bryansk Automobile Plant (BAZ), which is part of the Almaz-Antey holding, for the first time introduced its new model - BAZ-S36A11.

The new BAZ-S36A11 is a civilian tractor designed specifically for the oil and gas industry.

The new model of BAZ - BAZ-S36A11 - was developed at the Engineering Center of the Obukhov plant, which is also part of the Almaz-Antey holding. At the same plant, the e-Neva platform was created for passenger cars and light commercial electric vehicles.

BAZ-S36A11 has several interesting features.

The new BAZ-S36A11 is equipped with a six-wheel formula and can carry up to 40 tons of cargo. All suspensions on this vehicle are completely independent and are taken from the army BAZ-6909.

The cab of the new model S36A11 provides increased comfort and is equipped with two berths. This is not a purchased product from China, but a frame-panel structure created from scratch with a very harmonious design. The "cage" of the cabin is made of rectangular steel pipes, and the outer elements are made of composites.

The share of imported components in BAZ-S36A11 is minimal. The tractor is equipped with an 11.0-liter YaMZ-6531 turbodiesel, which is a licensed version of the French Renault dCi 11 engine (the license was purchased in 2007). The engine power is 422 horsepower, and the torque is 1900 Nm. The engine is paired with a 9-speed manual gearbox YAMZ-1909 with a demultiplier and a ZMT transfer case.

The cabin is equipped with a digital instrument panel, a telemetry system, an autonomous cabin heater and climate control "August" from LLC "Avgust Air Conditioner Plant" from Togliatti.

At the moment, BAZ-S36A11 is undergoing certification tests.

It looks cool and has a very good Euro 5  French Renault dCi 11 engine (licensed local production from 2007).

You can watch 1080p video in this link https://smotrim.ru/video/2595453, which I found by myself, no need watch the video of the crappy 360p linked on original sdelanounas post...

GarryB wrote:Any country will develop a technology if there is need and also the demand to make it profitable.

As far as I know the "profitable" thing is what matters in Russia. The reason for the lackluster of manufacture capability in Russia, despite the very strong foundation of Russian science and technology, is that the profit of industrial investment is not attractive for Russian capitalists.

As far as I know again, Russia does not have a gigantic state economy and strong grasp of government on the economy like China, to counter the profit-driven movement of pure capitalism and steer the investment into manufacture and technology like China has been doing.

Pls correct me if I am wrong.

As far as I know the "profitable" thing is what matters in Russia. The reason for the lackluster of manufacture capability in Russia, despite the very strong foundation of Russian science and technology, is that the profit of industrial investment is not attractive for Russian capitalists.

As far as I know again, Russia does not have a gigantic state economy and strong grasp of government on the economy like China, to counter the profit-driven movement of pure capitalism and steer the investment into manufacture and technology like China has been doing.

Pls correct me if I am wrong. pwnd pwnd pwnd pwnd

There is a multifaceted clusterfuck of wrong mindset that is still plaguing Russia and the Zeitgeist of the current Russian. If you really want to simplify it with your first sentence, then "Yes", you can make that claim. However, there are multitude of reasons the current Russian is plagued by a wrong mindset with low yield from their investment. One big traditional part of this is the mindset that was embedded in the 90's i.e.  "everything from the West is better" which goes hand in hand with the jewish proverb, "if it already exists don't waste your time making it yourself." The socialist times also had their part to play as the average person usually was never profit orientated nor had any experience in a capitalistic profit orientated business. The unstable times of the 90's and the collaps of the Soviet Union have created such lively conditions that no one really wanted to risk the little money they made or had on a failure prone project like self-run business. This low-risk mentality is also to some part to blame for the low investment into the economy. The overall mindset of that is, but at the same time fading due to constant demand and economical stability fading away. The real-time world development and visibility to the average person in the rest of the world is observable and vast majority of people can feel the shift.

The real life circumstances of the massive sanctions and little to no real world effect on Russia and Russians based on living standard has shown that they have a very rich soil to grow home-own businesses and projects to become more autonomous. Stability is the biggest factor to reverse and get rid of this mindset, which prevents many from making their own business. The laws on taxation, bureaucracy and interest rate for small businesses have also improved over the last 20 years.

On a side node, there are many niches which are almost monopoly for some countries/companies in the West which would be potentially profitable if Russia or China would create an own product and undercut the market prize due to lower labor and production costs. To be more specific, Germany is almost a monopoly for glue/adhesive products in all forms. One other sector which Russia and most Russians are garbage at is marketing and asking for a fair price for their products. They often undercut themselves just to please a customer, little sense of profitability in small to medium-small business. The big fishes of course are capitalists through and through since decades, however efficient and branding and marketing is still a Nemesis for us.

Part of their problem was that developing new products from scratch and getting them into mass serial production is expensive and if the EU and Asia already mass produce it and are importing it into Russia then who is going to buy a brand new untested (on the market) product from some brand new company you have never heard of because there is no way the first few years they will be able to compete with models produced in other countries despite the savings in wages.

EU food production was subsidised by their respective governments and they were already providing food to a large 600million population customer base, adding a 150 million customer market of Russia means they could start by selling at a loss to make market share and then gradually increase the price to make it profitable when the rivals are gone.

Russia struggled in their agriculture industry until the foreign cheap competition was cut off, and now it is booming with large capacity production and good clean products.

Obviously that is a combination of investment in the area and the gap in the market created by the withdrawal of imports from the EU, which made it easier to get loans and government support to fill the gap... and I suspect the same will happen with chips and other things they need.

For lots of stuff the Russians bought from other countries like electronic components, they did so because the margins are tiny so setting up production would only make sense if there were laws that forced local consumers to buy their more expensive components until they could master production and pay off all the start up loans from banks and can drop the price to close to the level of imported components that are only profitable because it is not profitable for everyone to make their own.

Only about half a dozen countries make their own chips and all the rest of the countries buy from them... it would be unreasonable to expect Russia to already be making them too because Russia had lots of other problems to deal with.

You can complain that they are short sighted but they haven't been doing nothing all this time... they had to upgrade everything and create a base and I think what they seem to have done has given them a great base to work from... they are making their own machine tools and are on the leading edge of new 3D and 5D and other D printers and 6 axis CnC machines etc etc, and working to fill the many gaps they had without getting massively into debt.

Now they are at a point where they appear to be on the leading edge of aircraft manufacture.... the structures for the Su-57 look like something HR Geiger would design for example and their mastery of composite materials like wings and stuff seems pretty damn state of the art too.

They were never focused on material consumer goods and so it is no surprise they are not leaping forward with cars etc, but their military vehicles are moving into new generations that have no western equivalent any more... but to be fair a lot of technology used in private car design came from racing car technology and so perhaps instead of doing it that way they could get the new technologies from military vehicles which will soon be including VR goggles with heads up displays, and 360 degree camera coverage, day night and all weather, and of course electric drives and other new developments can be used by both areas.

Russians traditionally followed 5 and 10 year plans, there was no commercial risk involved... if the plan required you build a lithium ion battery production plant then that is what you did... it wasn't a question of finding investors and potential customers for the final product to put together agreements you can take to a bank to get loans to build the battery factory in the first place... no risk and properly funded is a very different environment to what they have now... even though many things are funded that way.

Nice to see the diversification of military-industrial companies going ahead, what with their new civilian product line-up courtesy of Toyota and others