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    Post  sepheronx Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:07 pm

    Trying to make screwdriver assembly out to be a good thing us rather sad of this article.

    Avtovaz has had so much opportunity to build upon itself and expand its own line of vehicles.  Now instead, is going back to being nothing more so than a facility for building foreign cars.

    Russian car industry is still pathetic after all these years and billions of dollars.  A lot of these managers are useless and simply selling their own country short.  No better than what brits ended up doing.

    There is opportunity for Russian companies to build itself and do its own thing. Instead, they all compete to import Chinese cars and slap a sticker of their own on it. And to make it sound like Russian assembly is bad, is just stupid
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    Post  ALAMO Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:16 pm

    Pretty sure you know what are you talking about? dunno
    The biggest sales volume in Russia is achieved by Lada models which are all indigenous projects.
    Some of them are absurd old designs but work perfectly fine in some of Russia's regions. The same way as 5.7l HEMI works perfectly fine in some of US wastelands.
    Vesta, X-Ray and all the following are being made using the Russian platform.
    Most of the engines are Russian, it is enough to check it's parameters. Who other makes a 1.8l 140KM engines now?!?
    Sure they lack some subsystems, just like ANY other.
    Ever wondered why covid traffic jam and Malasya closing almost killed entire German car manufacturing?
    Close China, and we will see how far they will ride Laughing
    Close Turkey, and watch Toyota dying in the daylight.

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    Post  sepheronx Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:21 pm

    Re read the article though.

    Yes, it's at another plant. But instead of it being used to produce foreign xars, they should produce their own.

    They also claiming they lost ability to design vehicles after French left.

    What does that tell you?
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    Post  ALAMO Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:35 pm

    Bro, they have just released new redesigned versions of flagships.
    Elonged Vesta is already being delivered to administration bodies to replace foreign cars.
    New Niva as well.
    Tell me where you can buy a B-segment car, factory new, for $8k? India? Laughing
    They are only heating up, new supply chain buildup is not an easy thing, you know ...

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    Post  GarryB Thu Feb 01, 2024 12:04 am

    For some cars are a religion and licence production of a foreign type is blasphemy, but as far as I am concerned a car is a tool for getting you from place to place and whether you designed it or some guy somewhere else on the planet designed it is meaningless.

    Russia should focus on making cheap simple cars that go forever that you can fix for yourself.

    All the flash expensive stuff that gets put in modern cars is mostly BS, but the safety stuff is worth copying, but most of it is BS and just something else to fail and to make the car more expensive to buy and to run and to fix.

    They have an empty factory doing nothing. They have made an agreement to get some cars assembled there... that is the important part of the story.

    It seems to me that they need to ensure there are cars in every niche and to try to make them all unique purely Russian designs is just BS pride... let it go... the Japs and the South Koreans make some nice cars but so does China and so does Iran and Russia makes good cars too... European cars are essentially banning themselves with their ridiculous prices and now sanctions on parts and support.

    This is a great opportunity for factories in Russia to start working and they can look at designs and technology and perhaps develop and evolve foreign car types to the Russian conditions and Russian market that might eventually lead to unique new Russian designs... but that would entail a lot of talent and also a lot of risk... they shouldn't be taking risks now when literal Eurotrash has just left the market... the civil aircraft industry is Russianising some promising brand new Russian designs and resurrecting some old Russian types to fill the gaps. With the money earned producing these aircraft and their engines money will be available to invest in improvements and new technology to upgrade all these types and also look for gaps where new types can be built and put into use.

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    Post  Gazputin Thu Feb 08, 2024 4:34 am

    as you guys know me by now ... a numbers guy and pragmatist ...

    "As previously reported by AUTOSTAT, the approved production plan of AVTOVAZ for 2024 involves an increase in car production by 33% to 500 thousand units. It is planned to sell about 450 thousand LADA cars in the Russian market,

    while the company expects to supply more than 100 thousand cars of this number under the state order. In general, according to the company's forecast, the volume of the Russian car market in the coming year will increase by 5-10%, amounting to about 1.2 million cars. In addition, in 2024, AvtoVAZ intends to increase export deliveries to 20-25 thousand LADA cars."

    100,000 State orders ..... in 2024
    that absolutely reeks of big orders for the Lada Largus van .... my guess is Ruspost .... and Ambulances etc

    gotta love when they just ignore Western bullshit "free market" drivel ....
    f..k that .... lets pump some volume through our factory and get component costs down

    "So, in May 2024, it is planned to launch serial production of the LADA e-Largus electric car at the LADA-Izhevsk plant along with the resumption of production of standard LADA Largus with internal combustion engines.
    In September, it is planned to launch the production of the LADA Aura business class sedan."

    how to run a country properly ....

    any factory guy knows that the way to run a factory is to overclock it .... these guys know what they are doing
    Izhevsky plant will hum from day 1 .... re Largus

    meanwhile they get their core Vesta range bedded down - and launch the longer wheelbase Aura ....in 2024
    and next will be a crossover/suv surely on the longer Aura wheelbase .... which is much the same as the RAV4 ... in 2025

    probably with a fat "state order" to kick start sales yes ... and why not



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    Post  Gazputin Thu Feb 08, 2024 4:52 am

    anyone in the West knows what a load of crap electric cars are ....
    once you get past the "early adopters" what then ?

    in Russia they use their brain
    makes most sense as urban cars ..... taxis and car hire

    70% business sector .... car sharing etc

    "As Anatoly Kiyashko, Director for Government Relations of Kama JSC, reported earlier, the company received 105 thousand pre-orders for the Atom electric car, of which about 70% are in the business segment. According to him, the company is negotiating with all major players in the car-sharing and taxi market. Customers from Moscow, St. Petersburg, Leningrad and Moscow regions show the greatest interest in the Atom electric car. "In addition, this is, of course, Tatarstan: Kazan, Naberezhnye Chelny. This is the Kaliningrad Region, because there is a very strong history of infrastructure development there. Also, the target regions for us are the south. These are Krasnodar and other southern regions," added the top manager of Kama JSC.

    and as Moscow has such critical mass re population .... all the Moscow mayor needs to do is
    put out an edit to remove non-electric taxis from their roads ..... and suddenly his Moskvitch plant (doing license build)
    will be swamped with orders

    which is exactly how BYD started .... in 1x mega city - via electric buses
    now look at it .... critical mass on a global scale

    and that is the point get your orders in early and recoup your capital investment asap
    and then all future profit goes straight to the bottom line
    and even better ... overclock your factory - run 2-3 shifts a day
    ka-ching ......

    dumbarse West still doesn't get it .....
    China is a collection of massive city states ..... with over 20 mil population in each
    it isn't a "centrally planned" top down country-wide megastructure ....

    more than enough to get incredibly fast paybacks on investments
    if the local govt basically places an edict to buy local ....

    US/UK media is so fn dumb .... I die laughing almost every day reading their mindless drivel
    Has-Been Kingdom media ... lol lol

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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Thu Feb 08, 2024 8:54 am

    I do not like too much electric buses.
    If you want something electric there are already tram and filobus, and you do not have to cope with very polluting batteries (polluting for production and end of life disposal).

    Small mini cars are the only thing that can make sense at the moment.

    By the way, I was reading a few days ago about some issues with the electric buses in an italian town.

    all those electric buses have major charging problems that have not been solved even years after purchase. They consume over 10 times the declared amount on the climbs in the historic center and go into high temperature block as soon as it gets hot, leaving passengers stuck inside until the firefighters arrive because not even the air conditioning and emergency exits which are electric no longer work! Absurd!

    They go into thermal protection even during the night-time charging (according to them on paper they would have been sufficiently recharged in 10 minutes of transit at the end station between one trip and another 🤣 ) so at night you have to monitor the charging otherwise in the morning you will find the batteries completely ran out of charge.
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    Post  ALAMO Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:20 am

    Under several clauses, this so-called "electromobility" is not a bad idea.

    First and foremost, it can be applied only in environment that has big net electricity production, and infrastructure to transfer this energy where it's needed.
    Second, this energy must be inexpensive, which means atomic. Not only we consider the production process here, but what is more important, is the pricing policy.
    Third, at the existing level of technology, it works only for small distance or urban mobility.
    Fourth, it would be perfect if both cars and batteries would be produced locally.

    Now, if one will make a fact check - Russia fits all points.
    They are a big net producer of energy, and invest heavily in the grid reconstruction for the last 20 years.
    They produce inexpensive energy, that is being delivered to the population at fair prices, which are insanely low if compared to European ones. An average Russian pays 7 cents for kWh. SEVEN CENTS.
    It is 44 cents in the UK, and 52 cents in Ireland.
    See the gap?!?
    The bulk of the cars that are being subsidized are small city cars, buses, city transportation and deliveries.
    Last but not least, batteries are already being produced locally in Russia, using Russian made cells...

    Imagine a situation in let's say UK. They can't afford electricity bills now.
    There is a measure called "fuel poverty" that is being accounted.
    6.3 mln households at the end of 2023. That applies to combined electricity and gas, but it is irrelevant.
    How are they to afford to have electric-powered cars, at existing prices?!?
    My friend bought a Mercedes electric van for his company operations.
    When I was talking to him last time, he calculated the fuel efficiency as an equivalent of 11l of oil per 100km.
    It is not bad for a loaded van in city transport, but only as long as you don't calculate the price gap he paid at arrival - it was twice as expensive as fossil fuel driven.
    But this was BEFORE a sharp electricity price increase, that de facto doubled my own bills from 2022 to 2024.

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    Post  Scorpius Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:52 am

    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:
    By the way, I was reading a few days ago about some issues with the electric buses in an italian town.

    More than 1300 electric buses are currently operating in Moscow. No such massive problems have been reported. Perhaps the problem is with the manufacturer of these Italian electric buses?

    ALAMO wrote:An average Russian pays 7 cents for kWh. SEVEN CENTS.
    Strictly speaking, for 2024, the average cost of kWh in Russia for citizens is 4 rubles. That's about 4.35 cents. I pay 7 cents because I live in the Moscow region, and this is a fairly expensive region in terms of the cost of living.

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Feb 09, 2024 7:18 pm

    It is from Statista bro, I don't pay bills in Russia yet to have my own opinion Wink
    "average" includes probably energy for business - that can be more expensive scratch
    But the 4-5 cent price is even more devastating, being 1/10th of average in Europe.
    ONE TENTH.

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    Post  Kiko Mon Jun 17, 2024 8:42 pm

    KAMAZ has developed its own automatic transmission, 06.17.2024.

    The Kama Automobile Plant announced that it has built a prototype of its own automated gearbox.

    It is designated A1310 and is based on the serial 9-speed manual gearbox 1310TO, which in turn is an import-substituted version of the German ZF 9S1310TO.

    All automation units, including software, are produced by a Russian company - this ensures sanctions-resistant design.

    Currently, the new automatic transmission is being finalized, engineers are eliminating comments on the design and technological process.

    The A1310 will be produced at the TsF-Kama plant, from which the German ZF left in 2022. By the way, they also make the 1310TO manual gearbox.

    Tests of the new robotic gearbox will be carried out on the KAMAZ-43118 truck, -65115 dump truck, -65116 and -65117 tractors, as well as on the KAMAZ-63934 generation K5 fire truck.

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/160553/

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    Post  lancelot Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:00 pm

    KAMAZ managed to replace the Western components in the K5 truck in record time. Before nearly all of it was imported. Even the cab itself was imported from Europe. You can tell they held all the relevant parts of the design. And most of the critical foreign origin components were in fact being done in Russo-European/US partnerships in Russia which seem to have retained their production processes better than other foreign operated auto parts companies in Russia. I think this is partly because of KAMAZ's background with military trucks and it being considered a strategic company.
    This spells bad news for foreign truck builders and the West in general and good news for Russia.

    01/16/2018
    Liebherr and KAMAZ start production of new diesel engines

    Liebherr and KAMAZ complete the development of a new 6-cylinder in-line diesel engine family
    The serial production of the mutually developed engines starts

    Liebherr and KAMAZ celebrate the finalisation and the production start of the mutually developed 6-cylinder in-line diesel engines.
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    Liebherr and KAMAZ complete the development of a new engine series (from left to right: Willi Liebherr and Sergey Kogogin).

    On March 25, 2014 in Ehingen (Germany), KAMAZ and Liebherr signed a cooperation agreement for the development of a new range of 6-cylinder in-line diesel engines with the power output ranging from 300 to 520 kW (400 to 700 hp). In the course of three years, the KAMAZ engine production site has undertaken large-scale adaptations to facilitate the manufacturing of the new engines: production facilities for the machining of cylinder blocks and heads, as well as a state-of-the-art assembly line including test benches and painting area have been installed. In December 2017, the first components of the new engine KAMAZ 910.10 were manufactured and put onto the assembly line.

    “In order to produce the most advanced range of KAMAZ vehicles an innovative approach behind our projects was required", - remarked the general director of the KAMAZ, Sergey Kogogin. "We are striving to optimise our product for customers and to enter new markets. The new powerful and reliable engines, which are based on advanced global technologies and created in collaboration with our partner Liebherr, who has extensive experience in development and manufacturing of engines for difficult climatic and operational conditions, will allow us to significantly improve the technical and consumer-oriented characteristics of vehicles and to build trucks that are safer for people and the environment".

    In the process of engine development, special attention was paid to the reduction of fuel consumption, optimisation of operational weight, improvement of reliability and extension of service lifetime. With a capacity of twelve litres, the new 6-cylinder in-line engine is equipped with a Common Rail system as well as an engine control unit (ECU) developed by Liebherr. Engines with similar configuration have successfully proven themselves in a variety of Liebherr machines. Some of the advantages of the new engine include a very economical fuel consumption and high environmental friendliness. As a result, the new engine complies with the Euro V emission standard and also provides sufficient capacity to comply with the requirements of Euro VI emission standard in the future. In addition, the engines’ service intervals have been increased to 150,000 km.

    “Our companies have been cooperating for many years, starting from the moment of the development of production facilities for KAMAZ gearboxes. Therefore, it is a particular pleasure to be present at birth of a new engine, which is the direct result of the mutual hard work of the developers and engineers. The impressive, cutting-edge production and assembly line has been constructed exclusively for the new engine series. I would like to express special gratitude to all Liebherr and KAMAZ workers, who have made this project possible, and wish them success with the new engine", – remarked the president of the Liebherr Group, Willi Liebherr.

    Today, all the new assembly lines are working in start-up mode. The industrial production of the 6-cylinder in-line engine will be launched at the KAMAZ production site in March 2018. The new line is designed to produce 12,000 powertrains a year. Within the framework of the project, 150 new workplaces have been created at KAMAZ. These engines will be on board the K5 KAMAZ trucks of the next generation, which are planned for production in 2019.

    https://www.liebherr.com/en/usa/latest-news/news-press-releases/detail/liebherr-and-kamaz-start-production-of-new-diesel-engines.html

    R6 ENGINE: FIVE YEARS ON THE CONVEYOR
    23 December 2022

    Five years ago, in December 2017, KAMAZ solemnly launched the production of the family of six-cylinder in-line KAMAZ R6 engines. The first KAMAZ 910.10 engines were put to the assembly line.

    If we refer to history, the project with the working title "Tibet" to organize the production of a promising family of in-line six-cylinder engines was opened by order of Sergey Kogogin, General Director of KAMAZ, on June 10, 2014. Over the next three years, a large-scale work was carried out at the engine plant: sites were built and equipment for the production of blocks and cylinder heads was installed, lines for assembling engines, painting R6 power units were installed. With the commissioning of a new conveyor and the launch of industrial production in 2018, the production capabilities of KAMAZ PTC have significantly expanded. Today, KAMAZ vehicles of the K5 generation are equipped with these engines.

    The new conveyor of the company where R6 engines are produced is equipped up to the state of the art. Much attention is paid to technology compliance and detailed quality control – each operation is 100% traceable. Thus, a high level of quality of the power unit for KAMAZ-54901 vehicles and other models of the K5 line is ensured.

    “In the current 2022, we continued to modernize this line. We have increased the length of the conveyor. If initially we had the technological capability to assemble 12,000 engines a year, now we can assemble up to 30,000 engines a year. In addition, a lot of work has been done on import phasing-out. Imported components of the new motor were replaced with domestic ones. Work with Russian suppliers went on for a year,” said Oleg Zakharov, Head of the Reliability Department of the Engine Plant of KAMAZ PTC.

    The R6 engine conveyor is a vivid example of successfully implemented projects of the company. Straight-6 engines significantly improved the technical and consumer characteristics of vehicles, made KAMAZ trucks more efficient for business, more reliable and safer for people and the environment.

    By this moment, the line has assembled about 40 different sets of engines for the mainline, transport and heavy lines of KAMAZ vehicles of the K5 generation, as well as for third-party consumers. These are Euro 5 environmental class engines with a working volume of 12 liters, the engine power range is from 380 to 630 liters.

    Now the motors of model 910.15 with increased torque (2300 Nm) are shipped to the truck assembly plant. At the end of December, an experimental assembly of the engine with new fuel equipment and an electronic control unit will take place. In addition, in the first half of 2023, it is planned to switch to 910.50 engines with an increased displacement of up to 13 liters which enables to reduce operating fuel consumption by about 1.8 liters / 100 km. The development of the R6 engine line continues.

    https://kamaz.ru/en/press/news/r6_engine_five_years_on_the_conveyor/


    KAMAZ INCREASED PRODUCTION OF K5 GENERATION TRUCKS
    27 October 2023

    Based on the results of three quarters of this year, KAMAZ produced more than 3 thousand fifth-generation trucks – KAMAZ-54901 tractors, which is 2.5 times higher than the volume of their production for the same period last year.

    The company’s report for 9 months noted that in January-September 2022, 1.15 thousand K5 trucks were produced. According to production statistics, the production of the flagship KAMAZ-54901 tractors continues to gather pace. If we compare the results only for September month-over-month, the production of new vehicles has increased fourfold – from 150 to 600 units.

    In the last month before the introduction of Western economic sanctions against Russia – that is, in February last year – the company launched 407 KAMAZ-54901 trucks onto the market.

    https://kamaz.ru/en/press/releases/kamaz_increased_production_of_k5_generation_trucks/
    Production of K5 trucks has exceeded pre-sanctions output. Used to be 407 trucks per month and now is 600 trucks per month.

    ...
    14 February 2024
    ...
    One of the exhibits is the KAMAZ-54901 long-haul tractor. When creating the anti-sanction version of the flagship of the K5 generation trucks, a goal was defined: not only to maintain the same level of consumer properties, but also to surpass them. KAMAZ coped with this task: as a result, it launched the new version of the truck which is equipped with a cab frame made of localized steel, a 13-liter engine, a modernized dashboard, an increased screen size with the function of controlling the truck through on-screen symbols. These and many other advanced technical solutions made it possible to create a brand new truck.

    The new version of the truck with improved performance will be available from February 2023. The updated model with index 54901 has improved smoothness, reduced fuel consumption, and increased cabin noise insulation. At the same time, the key advantages remained unchanged. Features include a cabin with a flat floor, 2500 mm wide and 1980 mm high, which allows the driver of a long-haul tractor to move at full height and provides special comfort, as well as a highly efficient, economical KAMAZ engine enhanced to 482 hp and automatic transmission. Suppliers and manufacturers of automatic transmissions, drive axles, fuel systems and other components were replaced, and the production of KAMAZ-54901 no longer depends on the supply of components from unfriendly countries. This allows KAMAZ to guarantee its customers the availability of spare parts and high-quality service for the supplied vehicles.

    Also, the interest of visitors was aroused by a new model of the K5 line – the KAMAZ-6595 dump truck with a 6x4 wheel arrangement. The truck features a modern, comfortable cabin with large internal volume, improved passive safety and visibility. The use of a reinforced frame and 16-tonne axles made it possible to increase the load capacity of the dump truck to 25 tonnes. For driver comfort, a climate system with air conditioning, an auxiliary heater, an air-suspended seat, a multifunction steering wheel, electrically adjustable and heated mirrors, a new ergonomic instrument panel and a multimedia system with a 10-inch diagonal touch screen are installed. The three-section metal front bumper provides the vehicle with increased geometric cross-country ability and is highly maintainable. The vehicle is equipped with a 20 m³ dump platform with an exhaust gas heating system. Economical KAMAZ 910.52-460 engine with a power of 482 hp gives the truck excellent dynamic qualities.

    KAMAZ is actively modernizing technological sites and mastering the production of new products, responding to sanctions pressure with the confident growth of import-substituting production, making a significant contribution to the systemic restoration of the domestic automotive industry.

    https://kamaz.ru/en/press/releases/kamaz_presented_k5_generation/

    TUTAEV MOTOR PLANT IS TO RECEIVE NEW EQUIPMENT
    29 March 2024

    In May, Tutaev Motor Plant, a KAMAZ subsidiary in Yaroslavl Oblast, is to receive a new rod complex producing a set of rods for V8 and V12 cylinder block castings.

    The new equipment for the manufacture of core cylinder block sets has already been accepted by the customer company. Traditionally, the acceptance procedure was held at the manufacturing plant in China where Chief Metallurgist of Tutaev Motor Plant Sergey Balantsev had arrived with a working visit.

    “90% of the equipment is already prepared for delivery. The compliance of the equipment in terms of composition, technical characteristics and performance was checked. In addition to the core machine, peripheral equipment for core set painting and drying and technological equipment will also be supplied. At the end of the acceptance, a protocol was drawn up, which included nine of our comments and demands,” the manager commented on the results of the working trip.

    This is not the first equipment supplied to Tutaev Motor Plant by the Chinese partner: in the cast iron foundry of Tutaev Motor Plant, a rod complex has been operating since last year for the manufacture of a rod set for a cast iron cylinder head.

    “Our Chinese partners will take into account all the wishes of our enterprise regarding the composition of the equipment and, without increasing the cost of the contract, will supplement it with a device for cleaning inflatable plates, an additional grip on the manipulator, forks for removing rods and pipes connecting the dust collector and the daily sand bunker, as well as a steaming bunker with a sand bunker,” said Sergey Balantsev.

    Preprodution is scheduled to be finished at Tutaev Motor Plant in the summer, and the new technology for manufacturing block castings will go into mass production. Using the new technology, blocks for 8-cylinder engines of Tutaev Motor Plant and blocks for 12-cylinder engines supplied to the Yaroslavl Motor Plant will be produced.

    https://kamaz.ru/en/press/releases/tutaev_motor_plant_is_to_receive_new_equipment/

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    Post  Kiko Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:09 pm

    Why are new cars getting cheaper [in Russia]?, by Olga Samofalova for VZGLYAD. 06.26.2024.

    Deliveries of new models have reduced car prices in Russia.

    New passenger cars unexpectedly fell in price to 2.8 million rubles on average in the market, Autostat calculated. Although for the last 10 months the average price has remained above 3 million rubles after the rise in price last summer. What helped reduce car prices this spring and will this trend be maintained further?

    The average weighted price of a new passenger car in Russia in May fell to 2.8 million rubles, reports the Avtostat agency.

    Last summer, such cars cost more than three million and did not become cheaper for many months in a row. From June 2023 to April 2024, that is, for 10 months, the average price was consistently above 3 million rubles. In March 2024, a maximum of 3.4 million rubles was reached. Only in April did the weighted average price begin to decline: in April by 7% compared to the previous month, in May – by another 8.5%.

    What explains this trend and how long will it last?

    Experts from the Avtostat agency associate the fall in the weighted average price with a change in the sales structure of new passenger cars. On the one hand, the market share of cars from “budget” and “mid-price” brands has increased. Thus, for the market leader - the domestic Lada - it increased from 30.8% in April to 31.5% in May. The situation is similar for the Chinese brands Chery, Haval, Changan, OMODA, Belgee, plus the Russian brand Solaris. The weighted average price for models of these brands is less than 3 million rubles. As a result, the market share of all these six brands increased by 4% over the month, notes Autostat.

    “After the introduction of sanctions in Russia and the departure of foreign brands, the supply of new cars decreased sharply. This led to shortages and rising prices as demand remained high. The market turned out to be less competitive, which allowed the remaining producers to dictate higher prices. And a significant increase in direct deliveries from China this year has led to lower prices for some models. The emergence of new Chinese brands also increased competition in the market, which forced manufacturers to reduce prices,” believes Artem Deev, head of the analytical department at AMarkets.

    Exports of passenger vehicles from China to Russia have been growing for the fourth month in a row.

    In May, China exported cars to Russia for a record amount of $1.3 billion since November last year. Compared to last year, sales increased by 63%.

    Moreover, Russia took first place in the ranking of buyers of Chinese cars directly from China. Nobody buys that many of them anymore. In five months, 373 thousand cars from China were delivered to Russia. In second place is Mexico, where half as many cars were sent. Next are Brazil, Belgium and the UAE.

    As supply in the market expanded, demand slowed. “After the key rate was increased by the Bank of Russia and the cost of loans increased, the demand for cars slowed down, consumers began to focus more on the middle price segment and budget cars, which led to a reduction in the average cost,” the press service of Avtodom Group notes.

    "New buyers are entering the market, having benefited from rising salaries. They are also looking at more budget models, which affects the average cost of a car," says Sergey Grishunin, managing director of the NRA rating service.

    “At the same time, there is a decline in sales of premium segment cars - this happened for the first time in 14 months. In May, sales of new cars in the luxury segment decreased by 22% compared to last year,” indicate in the Avtodom Group of Companies.

    According to Autostat, there is a decline in market share for a number of “expensive” and “very expensive” brands: Exeed, Tank, Lixiang, Voyah, Zeekr. Western luxury car brands Toyota, BMW, Mercedes-Benz, Volkswagen have long stopped official deliveries to Russia, but now their models have become available through alternative imports. The weighted average price of such cars is significantly more expensive than 3 million rubles, and their total market share decreased by about 1.5 times over the month, Autostat notes.

    Parallel imports of cars dropped sharply due to the introduction of a recycling fee on April 1, which made importing cars in this way less profitable. Typically, more expensive hybrid and electric cars, as well as Toyota and BMW, came to Russia through this channel. Mostly premium brands of cars are ordered from abroad, because it becomes pointless to import other models unofficially.

    “Direct deliveries from China are becoming more profitable and efficient for manufacturers in terms of logistics and prices. This is also facilitated by the deepening economic relations between Russia and China. At the same time, parallel imports are more risky and unstable, as they depend on the political situation, in particular,” says Deev.

    “We also see a decrease in prices for cars produced in Russia, since they were initially overpriced. Plus a seasonal reason - many car showrooms and dealers have made very attractive special offers.

    But by the beginning of July, stocks of last year's cars will be exhausted - and the price pendulum may go back. In the fall, we may get an increase in the average bill for a car,” Grishunin does not rule out.

    It is curious that in Belarus you can buy domestic Lada Granta and Vesta much cheaper than in Russia. According to the Quto portal , one of the brand’s Belarusian dealers sells a car at prices lower than in Russia - for 891 thousand rubles versus 992 thousand here.

    Lada Vesta cars in Belarus cost even less than in Russia: the difference exceeds 300 thousand rubles, says Nikolai Pereslavsky, head of the economic research department of CM Service. “The difference with the Russian price of 20% is explained by the absence of a recycling fee in the price, which when importing such a car by a legal entity is about 300 thousand rubles. If you buy a car for personal use by an individual (and do not sell it within a year), then the recycling fee when imported from Belarus will be only 3.4 thousand rubles. If we add here the services of an intermediary for registration, transportation costs, and accommodation, then even taking into account these expenses, the savings are in the region of 200 thousand rubles,” says the interlocutor. Therefore, it is possible that there will be people who want to travel to Belarus for the sake of automobile tourism.

    What awaits the automotive market in Russia this year?

    “In May 2024, the share of Chinese brands in the Russian car market was 54%, in the premium segment – ​​80%. Over the past two months, the cost of new Chinese-made passenger cars has been decreasing by an average of 5-9%.

    Large warehouse balances and deliveries of new models from Chinese concerns create the prerequisites for the fact that prices for cars from China will remain stable or continue to decline slightly,” predicts the Avtodom press service.

    However, Dmitry Baranov, a leading expert at Finam Management, believes that car prices in 2024 will fluctuate: after the end of the holiday season, the demand for cars may increase, which will be reflected in prices - the cost of the most popular models may increase. At the same time, at the end of the year, car dealers and manufacturers, as a rule, clear warehouses for cars of the new model year and can reduce prices on certain items, but only for a short period, the expert adds.

    At the same time, there is no threat to AvtoVAZ yet. “They have been talking about the fact that AvtoVAZ is about to be displaced from first place in sales for many years, but this is not happening, because the company does not stand still, it is developing, producing new car models, modernizing production, and has a developed sales network in country,” says Baranov.

    The Russian government will continue to support both the domestic auto industry and foreign manufacturers who are ready to create production in Russia, and preferential car loan programs will continue. The share of domestic cars will remain at 35-40%. Chinese car imports will take a share of 50-60%. The remaining part of the market will be retained by parallel imports. Car sales will be about 1.3-1.5 million units,” Pereslavsky expects.

    https://vz.ru/economy/2024/6/26/1274844.html

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    Post  kvs Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:28 am

    There is no way that import substitution has no impact on the price structure. Russia has demonstrated the ability to manufacture components cheaper than the west.
    If higher priced (amplified by exchange rate shenanigans) parts are substituted with domestic lower priced versions, then vehicles become cheaper. Vehicles are all about their
    parts.

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    Post  Kiko Mon Jul 08, 2024 4:48 pm

    Russia to Start Serial Production of Hydrogen-Powered Aurus Senat Car by 2029, 07.08.2024.

    YEKATERINBURG, Russia (Sputnik) - Russia will begin serial production of a new hydrogen-powered Aurus Senat luxury car by 2029, Denis Yendachev, deputy CEO for information and intelligent systems at the NAMI automobile research institute, told Sputnik on Monday.

    "The deadline set for the project to reach mass-market production is about five years. The first cars will appear earlier and then [their production] will be gradually ramped up," Yendachev said.

    He estimated that it would take five years to create a network of hydrogen fuel stations in big cities and on federal highways. The goal is to keep the price cap on hydrogen-powered cars on par with gasoline- and diesel-powered ones.

    The refueling time of a hydrogen-powered Aurus will be under one minute, which will allow it to run for over 800 kilometers (497 miles), Yendachev said. The prototype is already being tested in extreme temperatures and in the mountainous terrain.

    https://sputnikglobe.com/20240708/russia-to-start-serial-production-of-hydrogen-powered-aurus-senat-car-by-2029-1119297980.html

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    Post  lancelot Mon Jul 15, 2024 3:37 am

    More of that "Russian war economy" GDP growth I suppose. dunno

    AvtoVAZ increased Lada production in the first half of the year by 73%, to 235.8 thousand units

    Moscow. July 11. INTERFAX.RU - Production of cars of the Lada model range in the first half of 2024 increased by 73%, to 235.8 thousand units, which exceeded the figure for the entire 2022, AvtoVAZ representative Sergei Ilyinsky told reporters.

    “For 6 months of 2024, production of all Lada models at facilities in Tolyatti and Izhevsk increased by 73%, amounting to 235,815 vehicles, including the Granta family - 110,797 units (+37.4%), Vesta - 68,260. (an increase of 3.5 times), Niva - 52,968 (+49%), as well as 3,790 cars of the Largus family, which have been produced in Izhevsk since mid-May”, said an AvtoVAZ representative.

    In June, the concern produced 45,238 cars and vehicle kits, which is 2.9 times higher than the figure for the same month in 2023.

    “The company is making every effort to fulfill the annual production plan of 500 thousand cars. We have already slightly increased the speed of production lines this summer. If earlier we said that a car leaves the AvtoVAZ assembly line once every 26 seconds, now - every 25 seconds. In the fall, the increase in the speed of production lines will continue, and we will reach the highest possible production rate: one car every 20 seconds,” added Ilyinsky.

    In the third quarter of this year, the automaker plans to begin production of the new Lada Aura model, the e-Largus electric car and full-featured versions of the Lada Vesta, in particular with the ESP system and other additional equipment. In the fourth quarter, production of Niva with airbags, full-function versions of Granta (including climate and cruise control, built-in alarm) and Niva Sport (based on Niva Legend) should begin.

    AvtoVAZ's production plan for this year at the beginning of the year was announced at the level of 500 thousand units; the company intended to sell about 450 thousand cars on the Russian market. The head of the company, Maxim Sokolov, reported in June that the actual production of Lada for the year could be 5-10% higher.

    Sales of Lada in the Russian Federation, as reported, in the first half of 2024 increased by 51.5%, to 217,631 vehicles. AvtoVAZ Vice President for Sales and Marketing Dmitry Kostromin, commenting on the results of the six months, noted, along with the positive dynamics, the general trend of slowing growth of the Russian car market by the middle of the year.

    https://www.interfax.ru/russia/970386

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    Post  lancelot Mon Jul 15, 2024 7:07 am

    For the record. Lada's 2019 sales.
    LADA successfully completed 2019: 362,356 cars were sold in Russia, which is 1% higher than in 2018. The renewal of the LADA model range and favorable buying conditions ensured growth even against the background of a falling market (according preliminary assessment, the decline was 2%), while the share of LADA in the segment of passenger and light commercial vehicles increased from 20.0% to 20.6%.

    LADA is a leader of the Russian market, significantly ahead of its nearest competitor. For the second year in a row, Granta and Vesta kept the two first places on the Russian market: LADA Granta with a result of 135,831 cars (+27.8% by 2018). In second place – LADA Vesta: sold 111,459 cars of the family (+2.9% by 2018).

    The LADA Largus VP model also entered the Top 10 of the Russian car market with a result of 43,123 cars sold. In 2019, the Russians purchased 52,397 cars of the Largus family in general, including 9,274 commercial vehicles.

    Total LCV sales result – 11 052 units, which is more than 90% of the sub-segment of small light commercial vehicles.

    https://www.automotiveworld.com/news-releases/lada-increased-sales-and-market-share-in-2019-year/
    So AvtoVAZ is headed to beat its sales before COVID this year. Compare their sales in just H1 2024 in the prior post with the ones for a whole year of 2019 in this one.

    The whole Russian car sector's production is still down from before the sanctions. But that is only because of the foreign car companies which left. LADA is doing great though.

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    Post  Arrow Mon Jul 15, 2024 8:04 am

    In general, to what extent is Russia's current fairly solid economic growth stimulated by increasing production of the arms sector?
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    Post  GarryB Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:00 am

    I would say very little because the Russian MIC is not a high profit sector.

    I would say the most value to their economy is blocking western products and replacing them with Russian made products or simply the transfer of western franchises like McDonalds to the Russian equivalent where no investment or preparation is needed... change the names on the menus and all the people currently doing the job stay in their job, it is just ownership shifts to Russians and production just continues... a fully running company but the income is going to Russians now instead of America or Europe.

    The way they have done it was well done too... many of those companies just wanted their franchises to go on a go slow to hurt the Russian economy... the farmers supplying food products would be damaged by no one buying their products and consumers would have to look for alternatives, while the western franchises took the loses but would try to wait it out... when they return after the war ends they can bump up the prices and get back into profits quickly enough.

    But the Russian government rightly points out this is economic sabotage and is seizing those companies franchises or making them sell their entire business at a fraction of what it is worth with huge tax bills to the Russian government as part of the transaction... really these western companies are getting shredded... which is why most are continuing business as usual because the alternative is getting kicked out of a juicy market they invested a lot of money to get into and are probably making more money than they do in their home countries at the moment.

    And because of all this the Russian public get the products they want but the money stays in Russia...
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    Post  caveat emptor Tue Jul 23, 2024 6:33 pm

    Of course, UAZ. This is, most likely UAZ Patriot, as I've heard similar anecdotes from Serbian MPs and regular police, that are using same vehicles.

    https://t.me/epoddubny/20482
    Greetings to the Ulyanovsk Automobile Plant from the Kherson direction

    In the middle of a field road, in the zone affected by drones, the gear shift lever remained in the hands of the driver.

    Who the hell knows, is this the norm?
    For a military vehicle, I think no. Mileage 17 thousand. Car made in 2024. The case, as it turned out, is not an isolated one.
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    Post  kvs Tue Jul 23, 2024 6:43 pm

    The whole "Russia's economy is growing because of military spending" is a NATzO propaganda bleating point. It is designed for innumerates.

    To have a 5% GDP growth driven by the MIC would require for it go from 3% of GDP to 8% of GDP. An increase of almost a factor of three. This
    is absurd. There is no indication that Russian military spending has tripled and standing at $190 billion. The whole of Russian government revenues
    are $350 billion. So the Russian budget would be inflated by about $130 billion or 37%. All of it would have to be deficit spending.

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