Russian Naval Infantry

GarryB wrote:Needless to say the blue and white striped T Shirts... whether they are bright blue and worn by the VDV or dark blue and worn by the RNI separate them from the average rank and file generally.

The stripped shirts worn by the Naval Infantry are also worn by the rest of the Navy  

The Russin naval infantry Will get t90 tanks very Soon Maybe they already have Them.

And being a sailor would certainly separate them from the average rank and file Army grunt...  

Last I heard the RNI were getting T-80s, but now they are being replaced we have also heard...

We do know they are getting Mistral helicopter carriers with Ka-29 troop helos, Ka-226T multipurpose helos, and armed Ka-52 attack helos.

GarryB wrote:And being a sailor would certainly separate them from the average rank and file Army grunt...  

Last I heard the RNI were getting T-80s, but now they are being replaced we have also heard...

We do know they are getting Mistral helicopter carriers with Ka-29 troop helos, Ka-226T multipurpose helos, and armed Ka-52 attack helos.

I wonder what the role of the Ka-62 in all this might be? An armed version used to replace the Ka-29, at least in certain specific roles?

That big order at the Ka-52/Ka-62 Progress plant leaves me wondering; as you pointed out - they're unlikely to all be for Ka-52 attack helicopters.

I suspect the Mistrals will go to sea with various loadouts depending on its primary mission but I can't think of any mission where it would require all attack helos.

For humanitarian missions it could carry all transport types (a mix of large and small) and certainly the Ka-62 would be useful on Mistrals, though the Ka-29 is a mature design with its nose mounted 30 cal gatling gun and 30mm cannon and four weapon pylons... the Ka-62 would have trouble matching that sort of payload.

I wonder if they will fit a chin mounted gun on the Ka-62... the twin barrel 23mm gun as fitted to the late model Hinds is an ideal helicopter gun as it has a good HE payload with low recoil and small compact ammo, while its high rate of fire means useful burst fire groupings rather than a stream of fire you get from low rate of fire weapons.

The difference of course is that the 23 x 115mm round is standard in aviation, but not so widely used in other areas.

However in the various things I have read about the new Kalashnikov arms company... it seems they are developing new ammo and new weapons up to and including cannon ammo and as I have mentioned a combined 14.5 x 114mm/23 x 115mm anti material rifle would be interesting... especially as they will make custom ammo for it... which means a SLAP 14.5mm round and perhaps even a SLAP 23mm round with smoothbore barrels and high velocity.

The Ka-226T is as multirole as they come... it has detachable pods for different mission equipment.

Of course the Ka-62 is brand new so we really can't tell what they intend to do with it... the main negative is that tail rotor... which is never a good thing on a ship.

(note when hovering it is easiest to keep station by turning the whole helo into the wind and then having a slightly nose down attitude so you are flying into the wind at the same speed as the wind thus your position over the deck does not move except for the waves moving the deck of course... if the ship turns or the wind changes direction however the helicopter pilot will need to turn the helo to maintain position which can mean a tail rotor swinging around the deck with no notice at all... very very dangerous.

Ka-29, Ka-52, Ka-226T have no tail rotor... you might get knocked to the ground by the tail structure, but you wont get chopped up into sushi by a tail rotor.)

Yes I know the Ka-62 has a shrouded tail rotor but I still don't like it on a ship. )

New marine recruits (over 400 of them) begun shooting practices , Far East

















Rest of the pics:

http://pressa-tof.livejournal.com/175079.html

I am not sure if there already was a post of this if there was i am sorry.

The Russian Ministry of Defense has formulated the specifications for the new amphibious armored infantry vehicle, which will conduct amphibious assault landings from the new French Mistral helicopter carrier. The Russian Navy Main Command requires that each vehicle would accommodate no fewer than 15 soldiers with their organic weapons and gear, and also mortars, automatic grenade launchers, portable air defense missile complexes and large-caliber machine guns.


The BMP-3F is currently the standard amphibious infantry armoured vehicle of the Russian Marine Infantry units.

"The vehicle must be of the proper size, much larger than the current BMP-2, BMP-3 and BTR-80. Consequently, its weight must total approximately 30 tonnes," Izvestiya's interlocutor at the Navy Main Command said.

The seamen's other requirements are - a mandatory passive defense complex (TNT blocks are attached to the armor from the outside so that, when a projectile hits, the directional counter explosion would absorb its destructive force). It is also desirable to equip the vehicle with an Arena type active defense complex (onboard launchers fire a hail of metal balls, which intercept a flying projectile at a distance of 25 meters).

Finally, the new naval infantry vehicle must totally support the amphibious assault force with fire and combat- all possible threats, including tanks and helicopters. Therefore, its weapons will not lag behind the BMP-2, which has a 30 millimeter gun, a 7.62 millimeter machinegun and an antitank guided missile launcher.

According to information from the Russian Ministry of Defense, the request from the Russian naval infantry battalions for both Mistrals and also the weapons have already been determined and, therefore, they decided to reject the advanced Kurganets-25 and BMP-3F amphibious armored vehicles.

Interesting, because at one stage they were talking about a modified Kurganets with better sea keeping performance and ability to operate in rough sea.

Sounds like they want a bigger vehicle with more internal capacity for troops.

Would love to see an extended body model of either boomerang or kurganets to retain commonality...

I have not ever seen Marines with these mythical T-80s in the first place....

Likely just upgraded T-72s till something new is available.

Russian naval infantry has t-90's already


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The T-90 is a Russian third-generation main battle tank that is essentially a modernisation of the T-72B, incorporating many features of the T-80U (it was originally to be called the T-72BU, later renamed to T-90). It is currently the most modern tank in service with the Russian Ground Forces and Naval Infantry. [quote]

http://pressa-tof.livejournal.com/234321.html (All images)

New system of training for PF marines.

Thanks to the advanced technique, the amount of practical training has been increased four times. To recruits feel confident in any situation, half of the exercises held at night.

Is there any news About the new amphibious vehicles Russia was designing for use from the mistrals?

None really, beyond the comments about Kurganets in an upgraded amphibious version with improved sea keeping performance and better landing capabilities.

GarryB wrote:None really, beyond the comments about Kurganets in an upgraded amphibious version with improved sea keeping performance and better landing capabilities.

That would be an awesome vechicle!!