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the line of sight thickness of that upper front plate is like twice that of a normal T-80 or T-72 platform.
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They finally adopted a lower glacis plate of proper thickness, instead of hiding it behind it the enlarged upper glacis plate. More importantly they migrated the driver's vision devices to the roof (they have actual roof armor now!) which means none of that absurd cutout on the upper glacis armor (also called the cleavage, since that's where you aim the money shotAtmosphere wrote:the line of sight thickness of that upper front plate is like twice that of a normal T-80 or T-72 platform.
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This tweet is from an account that no longer exists....
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2F66-1 ammunition supply vehicle
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GarryB wrote:This tweet is from an account that no longer exists....
He is gone too? Anyone knows what happened, he is one of the best...
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People should stop using Twatter. The new manager is worse than the previous clown. Let the SJW degenerates keep their
echo chamber.
echo chamber.
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LMFS wrote:GarryB wrote:This tweet is from an account that no longer exists....
He is gone too? Anyone knows what happened, he is one of the best...
He´s back.
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I am not on twitter... perhaps send him a tweet and ask him if he wants to post here... I wont ban him.
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GarryB wrote:This tweet is from an account that no longer exists....
He's back, he shuts his twitter off from time-to-time for whatever reason...maybe to avoid distractions (which is what social media is only good for).
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Probably because he has a day job andmagnumcromagnon wrote:
He's back, he shuts his twitter off from time-to-time for whatever reason...maybe to avoid distractions (which is what social media is only good for).
>not under Putler grant
ngmi. Probably posting for free too
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magnumcromagnon wrote:GarryB wrote:This tweet is from an account that no longer exists....
He's back, he shuts his twitter off from time-to-time for whatever reason...maybe to avoid distractions (which is what social media is only good for).
holy shit you are alive, great to see you again
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thegopnik wrote:magnumcromagnon wrote:GarryB wrote:This tweet is from an account that no longer exists....
He's back, he shuts his twitter off from time-to-time for whatever reason...maybe to avoid distractions (which is what social media is only good for).
holy shit you are alive, great to see you again
Yeah, I took a much needed break from posting and wasn't lurking much either. Since my absence I seen some new members took up the slack, some of them have thousands of post already underneath their belt lol!
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magnumcromagnon wrote:thegopnik wrote:magnumcromagnon wrote:GarryB wrote:This tweet is from an account that no longer exists....
He's back, he shuts his twitter off from time-to-time for whatever reason...maybe to avoid distractions (which is what social media is only good for).
holy shit you are alive, great to see you again
Yeah, I took a much needed break from posting and wasn't lurking much either. Since my absence I seen some new members took up the slack, some of them have thousands of post already underneath their belt lol!
Stay. I rather miss your postings.
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One artillery division will get new 2S35 howitzers and those will be delivered to the military unit stationed in Western military district.
I am not allowed to post that NEWS, because i am a new guy here, but that was published on TASS.RU (russian version) few minutes ago.
I am not allowed to post that NEWS, because i am a new guy here, but that was published on TASS.RU (russian version) few minutes ago.
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Podlodka77 wrote:I am not allowed to post that NEWS, because i am a new guy here, but that was published on TASS.RU (russian version) few minutes ago.
WTF dude you can post anything you like - just try and stick to the facts while you're doing it!
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WTF dude you can post anything you like - just try and stick to the facts while you're doing it!
It is not censorship, it is a feature of the board software that stops new members posting links for about a week or two to stop spammers flooding forums with new users posting links to junk spam sites.
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Is this gun being tested in Ukraine at all? Also what is the actual firing rate of this gun? I have ready 16 RPM and 8. Was 16 based on the original 2 gun concept? If they can do 16 RPM with 1 gun and cooling fluid that will be truely revolutionary.
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Rate of fire is not unimportant, but the fact that it can fire rounds to 70km with a CEP of 10m means they are very likely to be hitting what they aim for, and that firing mode where they fire at different angles with different propellent loads so a group of rounds all lands at once suggests to me that is high rate of fire wont be critical because you will be getting half a dozen shells landing within 10m of the target all at once from one vehicle... that is 270kgs of HE and steel fragments arriving on target all at once from each vehicle... potent stuff.
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GarryB wrote:Rate of fire is not unimportant, but the fact that it can fire rounds to 70km with a CEP of 10m means they are very likely to be hitting what they aim for, and that firing mode where they fire at different angles with different propellent loads so a group of rounds all lands at once suggests to me that is high rate of fire wont be critical because you will be getting half a dozen shells landing within 10m of the target all at once from one vehicle... that is 270kgs of HE and steel fragments arriving on target all at once from each vehicle... potent stuff.
Shoot and Scoot. Rate of fire is critical to an SPG as the faster you can shoot the prescribed amount of shells, the earlier you can bug out.
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GarryB wrote:Rate of fire is not unimportant, but the fact that it can fire rounds to 70km with a CEP of 10m means they are very likely to be hitting what they aim for, and that firing mode where they fire at different angles with different propellent loads so a group of rounds all lands at once suggests to me that is high rate of fire wont be critical because you will be getting half a dozen shells landing within 10m of the target all at once from one vehicle... that is 270kgs of HE and steel fragments arriving on target all at once from each vehicle... potent stuff.
Yes I get that, but with 16 RPM you can have 1 gun do the job of 2. Even if it is not a sustained rate. It can fire of 16 and reposition while the gun is cooling. I heard they have some sort of alcohol based cooling system. At 8 RPM with its known capabilities, this will be the best SPG on the planet, with 16 RPM, it will be revolutionary. If it can do 16 RPM sustained ..OMG that is a shitstorm from a single gun. That is emptying its magazine of 70 rounds in just 4.5 mins.
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It's weird we still didn't see any Koalitsiya guns in Ukraine. For testing in real time conditions. Especially, when we consider how important is artillery in this war.
Does anyone knows if they used ESU TK system so far in Ukraine?
It should greatly enhance and speed up connection between target acquisition and target destruction. Not sure how well it can be applied since Russia uses a lot of older equipment in this war.
Does anyone knows if they used ESU TK system so far in Ukraine?
It should greatly enhance and speed up connection between target acquisition and target destruction. Not sure how well it can be applied since Russia uses a lot of older equipment in this war.
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caveat emptor wrote:It's weird we still didn't see any Koalitsiya guns in Ukraine. For testing in real time conditions. Especially, when we consider how important is artillery in this war.
Does anyone knows if they used ESU TK system so far in Ukraine?
It should greatly enhance and speed up connection between target acquisition and target destruction. Not sure how well it can be applied since Russia uses a lot of older equipment in this war.
It wouldn't surprise me if it got it's baptism there, but so far we have little footage what is being used there. Quite rare things were seen accidentally popping up.
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We have seen glimpses of BUKM3 and other new systems... and at least one upgraded T-90...
The thing is that the key is dispersal rather than max range... if you have 12 2S3s with their own built in battle management system with a nav attack system that takes their individual location into account so when target data is received all the guns within range will be notified and given the type of ammo and direction and angle and propellent charge to load... which will likely be automatically loaded and then the guns will fire in order of their location... if they are all together in a line that means all firing at once, but scattered over the battlefield it might appear more random as different shot distances means different firing times with the most distant vehicles firing first and then moving away while closer vehicles fire later... with the rounds all arriving at about the same time.
After they fire perhaps four rounds each... that is 48 shells in about 30 odd seconds all angled to land at the same time.... 48 shells of 45kgs each is over 2 tons of HE and steel fragments all arriving in and around the target area at once.... and then the vehicles scatter.
If they were all together the instant the first rounds are detected via battlefield radar you can direct a smerch battery to fire rockets at the artillery location with submunitions with a good chance of taking out quite a few vehicles... more importantly with drones and satellites and aircraft operating over the battlefield looking for targets a group of 12 artillery vehicles lining up would be relatively easy to spot if you are looking in the right direction at the right time.... but 12 individual vehicles in 12 different locations would be harder to track down and deal with even after they fire.
Of course longer range means a larger area to look for targets... but in built up areas being able to drive out a building and down the road a bit and then firing and then rapidly driving into a garage, and by the time they get eyes in the area after being alerted by the shots there might be nothing to see.
Range is one thing but cost and accuracy are important too... being able to fit fuses with GLONASS guidance and control fins that gives a CEP of 10m to standard shells makes them rather better because you don't need to fire so many shells and can shoot and scoot faster.
The thing is that the key is dispersal rather than max range... if you have 12 2S3s with their own built in battle management system with a nav attack system that takes their individual location into account so when target data is received all the guns within range will be notified and given the type of ammo and direction and angle and propellent charge to load... which will likely be automatically loaded and then the guns will fire in order of their location... if they are all together in a line that means all firing at once, but scattered over the battlefield it might appear more random as different shot distances means different firing times with the most distant vehicles firing first and then moving away while closer vehicles fire later... with the rounds all arriving at about the same time.
After they fire perhaps four rounds each... that is 48 shells in about 30 odd seconds all angled to land at the same time.... 48 shells of 45kgs each is over 2 tons of HE and steel fragments all arriving in and around the target area at once.... and then the vehicles scatter.
If they were all together the instant the first rounds are detected via battlefield radar you can direct a smerch battery to fire rockets at the artillery location with submunitions with a good chance of taking out quite a few vehicles... more importantly with drones and satellites and aircraft operating over the battlefield looking for targets a group of 12 artillery vehicles lining up would be relatively easy to spot if you are looking in the right direction at the right time.... but 12 individual vehicles in 12 different locations would be harder to track down and deal with even after they fire.
Of course longer range means a larger area to look for targets... but in built up areas being able to drive out a building and down the road a bit and then firing and then rapidly driving into a garage, and by the time they get eyes in the area after being alerted by the shots there might be nothing to see.
Range is one thing but cost and accuracy are important too... being able to fit fuses with GLONASS guidance and control fins that gives a CEP of 10m to standard shells makes them rather better because you don't need to fire so many shells and can shoot and scoot faster.
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Our self-propelled guns 2S35 "Coalition-SV" cannot use the ammunition load of other Russian self-propelled guns
The topic of armament of our self-propelled artillery mount 2S35 "Coalition-SV" is actually not so new. Therefore, raising it once again would make no sense, but with the start of a special military operation in Ukraine, the interest in artillery among the general public grew to heaven. In this connection, with enviable regularity, messages began to appear with calls to immediately put the car into service and almost send it to the front.
FULL ARTICLE: https://topwar-ru.translate.goog/214587-prosim-otpravit-v-zonu-specoperacii-sau-koalicija-sv-a-streljat-iz-nee-chem-budem.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en
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