2S5 has a slightly longer barrel and maybe higher pressure tolerance, but ammo are strictly the same.
Or am I totally wrong? In fact I think 2S3 and thus the D-20 howitzer, both use the WW2 (infact pre WW2) pattern cartridge, as used in ML-20, D-1 or ISU-152 systems.... while the Msta and Giatsint systems both use a newly developped case pattern, bigger.
Koalitsya will use the same pattern ammo, or a brand new 3rd generation 152mm case?
As far as I know, we can say 152mm systems are in two category:
SU / ISU-152
2S3 , are all "medium" power and range weapons, reaching 15-18km with standard ammo (much less for D-1 small howitzer)
2S19, are a level above, usually reaching 28-30km with standard ammo.
There is the D-1 152mm howitzer too, but it is obsolete... and has its own type of ammo.
The 30F59 is a HE Frag projectile developed specifically for the 2S5 self propelled gun and the 2A36 towed version that is not used with the 2S19.
The 30F45 and 30F64 HE frag rounds are used in the D-20, ML-20, the 2S3M, 2A65 and 2S19 guns... the difference in performance with the 2S3M and 2S19 is down to barrel length.
They come with three charge options... long range, full charge, and reduced range charge. The reduced charge makes the round more accurate for use against close range targets using high elevation as the reduced charge greatly reduces flight time to target so it is less effected by wind and gives the target less time to move.
Koalition has already been testing rounds at 48km.
Early talk including information about the electronic fuses with Glonass guidance integrated mentioned 80km range for the ground and naval models, but later reports mentioned 70km with new ammo and about 45km with old ammo types.
surely rocket assisted? I was only talking basic HE with full charge
Most likely 70km with rocket assisted base bleed rounds.
The magical fuse? Maybe.
Pretty darn amazing... would vote you up but will have to wait till tomorrow...
What does it take for a person that obviously has no understanding and no knowledge about the topic to so audaciously write the embarrassing statements that you wrote in your post, for everyone to see?
Are you the same forum user, as the other Russian guy, who used computer games as his source? He destroyed many threads because of that. Moderators, can you please check on this.
Don't be so mean... imagine if I was mean and nasty and banned you for excessive use of smileys...
He has put up his figures and information for everyone to see, now is the time for you to offer advice and corrections rather than abuse him and his parents...
Not everyone is as right as you...