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    Post  kvs Thu Apr 18, 2024 2:14 pm

    From a certain interaction I learned that in Japan there is the belief that Russia is claiming more than just the four Kuril islands that Japan is
    disputing. I have never heard of Russia claiming parts or all of Hokkaido. Of course there is no such thing as a claim on mainland Japan. This
    shows the sort of propaganda that is used to keep the Japanese on the anti-Russian plantation. The other one is the fake victimhood narrative
    that is taught to the Japanese in their textbooks. So the loss of the four Kuril islands is just a Russian invasion and not due to the fact that Japan
    launched a war of aggression. This includes its attack on the USSR.

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    Post  higurashihougi Thu Apr 18, 2024 4:19 pm

    Another belief is that "USA defeat Japan fair and square and take no land from Japan" while "Russia do nothing in the war, just steal land from Japan."

    I do not claim that all Japaneses have that thinking but somebody confessed to me they really believe that way.

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    Post  kvs Thu Apr 18, 2024 4:32 pm

    Japan decided to call a "time out" after their asses were kicked at Khalkin Gol. But that is not how war is "played". There are no time outs.

    So we have exceptionalist lunatics making up their own rules and then acting like victims because the real victims don't follow these rules.

    Japan was just as depraved as their German Nazi allies. Unit 731 demonstrates this.

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    Post  Hole Thu Apr 18, 2024 4:35 pm

     I have never heard of Russia claiming parts or all of Hokkaido. 
    Well, the surrender proposal of the "Big 3" provided for the partitioning of Japan
    into occupation zones. Hokkaido was to be the Russian (SU) one.
    Truman shit on the agreement after he came to power.

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    Post  lancelot Thu Apr 18, 2024 4:50 pm

    Hole wrote:Well, the surrender proposal of the "Big 3" provided for the partitioning of Japan
    into occupation zones. Hokkaido was to be the Russian (SU) one.
    Truman shit on the agreement after he came to power.
    Hokkaido was annexed by Japan only in the late XIXth century. Japan's claims to the northern islands are flimsy at best.

    The Ryukyu islands (including Okinawa) were annexed by Japan centuries earlier. But they remained as tributaries to the Chinese Emperors until the XIXth century.

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    Post  kvs Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:14 pm

    Hole wrote:
     I have never heard of Russia claiming parts or all of Hokkaido. 
    Well, the surrender proposal of the "Big 3" provided for the partitioning of Japan
    into occupation zones. Hokkaido was to be the Russian (SU) one.
    Truman shit on the agreement after he came to power.

    This does not sound like territorial transfer to the USSR. The European occupation zones did not result in the USSR annexing
    Austria, etc.

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    Post  higurashihougi Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:30 pm

    From my point of view it is nothing bad at all if the USSR occupy northern Japan and established a, for example, People's Republic of Ainu in Hokkaido.

    At least the Ainu people may not lost their native mother tounge like what has been happening.

    In Eastern Germany people did a good thing of exterminating not only Nazi criminals but also old landlords and privileged families that lived on by bloodsucking people, meanwhile the very same thugs has been protected, whitewashed and bloated in the land occupied by the "free West". Nazi criminals, including the supporter of Maidan fascist regimes, is still barking loudly in Canada. Japanese textbook and media whitewashing the fascist regime in WW2.

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    Post  kvs Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:21 pm

    Yes, the nazi core in NATzO is covered by a thin progressive crust. We have seen the true face of the west during the Ukraine conflict.

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    Post  Hole Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:41 pm

    The European occupation zones did not result in the USSR annexing Austria, etc.
    Which turned out to be a mistake. 

    Yes, under the treaty Hokkaido would have not become a part of Russia (SU),
    but todays claims by some weirdos in Japan go back to it.

    By the way...
    Did you guys see the speech of the Japanese PM in the US Congress?
    Talking about evil Russia and her nuclear threats?
    No
    In the country which dropped two nukes on his country he talks about nuclear dangers...
    and never mentions the US!
    clown

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    Post  kvs Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:41 am

    The next stage in Japan's historical revisionism is to delete Hiroshima and Nagasaki as US atomic bomb attacks and to try to pin this
    on Russia in some way. I am not making this up. Opinion polls amongst Japanese youth indicates that they don't even know who
    bombed them in 1945.

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    Post  Hole Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:27 am

    On the other hand, the Americans are so proud of their "achievements", they would never allow the first drop
    of a nuclear bomb to be credited to someone else.

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    Post  GarryB Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:22 pm

    And he added: “Many (political figures) said just two years ago that they would never deliver tanks, planes, long-range missiles.” Apparently, Macron intends to seriously work on convincing his comrades in the anti-Russian coalition to take part in the conflict by directly sending troops.


    As French Prime Minister Gabriel Attal explained , “Emmanuel Macron said that we will continue to support Kiev... Nothing can be ruled out in war. They once said that we would not send weapons, only what was necessary for defense. Now we are talking about the supply of long-range missiles... Nothing can be ruled out in the future.”

    So how long before tactical nuclear weapons or bio or chemical weapons are supplied to Kiev?

    From a certain interaction I learned that in Japan there is the belief that Russia is claiming more than just the four Kuril islands that Japan is
    disputing. I have never heard of Russia claiming parts or all of Hokkaido.

    But it fits in with western BS propaganda... you hear the most anti Russian European countries claim the west has to support Kiev because once Russia has finished with Ukraine it is coming for the EU next... these people are deluded... and it is a bit stupid anyway... many sensible Europeans might prefer Putin to be their president than the leaders they have in their own countries and in Brussels and their real leaders in Washington and of course huge mansions around the world.

    Japan decided to call a "time out" after their asses were kicked at Khalkin Gol. But that is not how war is "played". There are no time outs.

    Japan took a lot of land before WWII by force and by right of force tried to keep it.

    When provoked and under an agreement with the US the Soviet Union was obliged to join the war against Japan because the US was afraid that when the war in Europe ended they would be left alone to fight it out with Japan. What if the planes with the nuclear bombs got shot down, or the bombs didn't work... they could be fighting Japan for the next 10 years... so they concluded an agreement with Stalin that x number of days after the end of the war in Europe that Stalin would open a second front in Asia against Japan... which they did.

    A chance for the Soviets to recover a lot of territory lost to Japan in the previous conflict in the region, not to mention Japanese forces in Soviet territory during the Soviet revolution.

    From my point of view it is nothing bad at all if the USSR occupy northern Japan and established a, for example, People's Republic of Ainu in Hokkaido.

    At least the Ainu people may not lost their native mother tounge like what has been happening.

    You tell your friends that it is strange they fear Russian rule when they seem to accept US rule so easily...

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    Post  kvs Thu May 02, 2024 11:03 pm



    What a collection of retards, but that should be common knowledge by now.

    The US cannot simply source Uranium from other suppliers. It is a constricted semi-commodity.

    https://www.wsj.com/finance/commodities-futures/uranium-prices-jump-to-16-year-high-on-supply-woes-analysis-05c7086f

    https://www.mining.com/uranium-jumps-to-15-year-high-as-top-miner-flags-shortfall/

    You will hear how there are economic deposits available, but that is misleading. Massive short term supply shifts are not possible.

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    Post  lancelot Fri May 03, 2024 1:44 am

    kvs wrote:What a collection of retards, but that should be common knowledge by now.

    The US cannot simply source Uranium from other suppliers.   It is a constricted semi-commodity.
    ...
    You will hear how there are economic deposits available, but that is misleading.   Massive short term supply shifts are not possible.
    It is fairly well known that the US has increased its purchases of enriched uranium from Russia. They were probably stockpiling it ahead of the ban. Orders were also given to increase the amount of centrifuges at available enrichment plants in Europe, and their expansion. But it will take several years to increase enrichment capacity in a meaningful way.

    After the possible loss of uranium from Niger you also had Macron fly to Mongolia and Kazakhstan probably to increase uranium yellow cake purchases from both those countries.

    Still this ban by the US seems to be premature. The US probably think they can compensate with stockpiles, purchases from Europe, and switching to gas fired power plants if necessary. And unfortunately Russia still has signed contracts between Rosatom and European and South Korean steam turbine manufacturers for the nuclear power plant project in Turkey and Egypt.

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    Post  Arrow Fri May 03, 2024 8:43 am

    Russia should keep enriched Uranium for itself. They probably have a large stockpile of recycled thermonuclear weapons. It is important to remember that each thermonuclear warhead has a lot of enriched Uranium, which is used as a second-stage tamper. This gives you extra energy. In the future, they should increase the number of strategic warheads to several thousand, so they will need a lot of supplies.
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    Post  kvs Sat May 11, 2024 1:41 pm



    Anyone who thinks that North Korea's agricultural problems are all their own fault is an idiot.   These US maggots have been engaging in biowarfare
    and related research for decades. They were using Ukria as a staging platform to attack Russia.

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    Post  higurashihougi Sat May 11, 2024 2:37 pm

    kvs wrote:Anyone who thinks that North Korea's agricultural problems are all their own fault is an idiot.

    None of the Korean states can self-sustain their food production due to very few amount of arable land that is suitable for food plantation. Even the South Koreans have to import a lot of food and that is the only reason why they did not suffer the period of food crisis like the North.

    I thought the myth of "stupid agri management of North Korean government" has long been debunked ? There are still people believe in it ?

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Sat May 11, 2024 2:59 pm

    North Korea would fare much better indeed if it introduced market reforms, like China did.
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    Post  kvs Sat May 11, 2024 4:29 pm

    "Commie regimes result in mass starvation" is an often repeated trope to this day in the USA and NATzO west. Decades of cold war
    brainwashing with cheesy propaganda has convinced the western masses of this "fact".

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Sat May 11, 2024 5:56 pm

    In Soviet Union private garden plots made up 1% of all arable land but produced 20% of all agricultural output. So efficient is commie farming.

    I am not sure how self sufficient DPRK would be if it had normal, private agriculture - but it would definitely be better off than it's now.
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    Post  higurashihougi Sat May 11, 2024 7:03 pm

    @Walther von Oldenburg: Actually the NK did some market oriented reforms, although honestly I do not know much info about these.

    But another no less important task is how to break or circumvence the sanction against the country, because it severely restrict the access to the fund, foreign currency, and technology that is very vital to carry out the reforms.

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    Post  lyle6 Sat May 11, 2024 8:37 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:In Soviet Union private garden plots made up 1% of all arable land but produced 20% of all agricultural output. So efficient is commie farming.

    I am not sure how self sufficient DPRK would be if it had normal, private agriculture - but it would definitely be better off than it's now.
    Every single family had a dacha. That's like near 100% participation in part-time agriculture mein negger.
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    Post  kvs Sun May 12, 2024 2:30 am

    I have posted on this before, but from family experience I know that in the USSR whole trainloads of produce were allowed to rot at marshaling yards.
    The command economy still requires personal investment from the workers. It also requires control over various levels of management. I can't believe
    that it was mere incompetence that such waste occurred. It must have been some sort of power games most likely involving NATzO infiltration.

    Anyway, the US has a history of using biowarfare against the agricultural sectors of Cuba and the USSR and I am sure North Korea. It is a prime
    regime change tool and I am sure that the US will try to attack Russia now to "depose Putin". There are no rules for the self-anointed masters of the
    universe.

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    Post  GarryB Sun May 12, 2024 5:11 am


    I thought the myth of "stupid agri management of North Korean government" has long been debunked ? There are still people believe in it ?

    The same people who claimed Russia could not produce food and had to import from the EU...

    Technology and know how proves any country can produce food and the amount of arable land simply does not come in to it...

    Hydroponics would allow growing food underground if you wanted to...


    Anyway, the US has a history of using biowarfare against the agricultural sectors of Cuba and the USSR and I am sure North Korea. It is a prime
    regime change tool and I am sure that the US will try to attack Russia now to "depose Putin". There are no rules for the self-anointed masters of the
    universe.

    The irony is that is largely a history of failure and also a game they would be horribly vulnerable too... imagine those Chinese balloons they got so excited about shooting down were laced with foot and mouth disease or an enormous range of other problematic bio weapons.

    Russia should start up its Bio weapons programmes and start looking into viable weapons and also viable defences because we know the US has bio weapons labs all around the planet and based on their performance during the Covid pandemic they are not working on defense because they were effectively defenseless...

    Covid likely came from one of their labs in China, which is why they stopped chasing that lead to potential compensation because they knew it was not the Chinese government running that lab.... it was an American funded lab that created and released Covid... accidentally or on purpose we may never know.

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    Post  higurashihougi Wed May 22, 2024 10:40 am

    I bet nobody taxes the delusional dreams ?

    https://www.rt.com/russia/597979-estonia-ukraine-nato-eu/

    NATO state’s PM calls for breakup of Russia
    It is not a bad thing when a big power becomes much smaller, Estonia’s Kaja Kallas has said


    The conflict between Moscow and Kiev should end with the defeat and breakup of the Russian Federation, Estonia’s Prime Minister Kaja Kallas has proposed.

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