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Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

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Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

GarryB Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:36 am

The article was in a German military magazine called Mil Tech.. (this is their website: http://www.monch.com/mpg/index.php )

I will see if I can dig the magazine out and give more details... it described the double layer armour of the Ka-50 as making impact of projectiles needing some 2,000 joules of energy... which meant US 20mm cannon was insufficient... you needed a 27mm Mauser or 30mm Soviet calibre to reliably penetrate.

BTW they were testing armour protection... which requires live fire tests... they would not have fitted the aircraft with sensors and equipment so it would not cost anywhere near 16 million.

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Werewolf Mon Jan 06, 2014 2:03 pm

Could it be "military technology ISSUES 6/2013" since it is the only magazine that mentions russian helicopters in the contents?

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Any figures about Ka-52 curved transparency armor?

GarryB Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:46 am

No.

The issue was from the mid to early 1990s and mentioned the name Werewolf for the Ka-50 as being very appropriate as the author calculated the power needed to penetrated its armour required 27mm or more powerful ammo... ie you really need silver bullets for a reliable kill.

Found it... here is the article:

Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 12 Russia10

Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 12 Russia10

Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 12 Russia11

Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 12 Russia12

Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 12 Russia13

Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 12 Russia14

Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 12 Russia15

Note page 66 under the heading "Hokum Test Firing" and below.

Note a single 23mm cannon shell would not blow the tail off, but a burst from 100m range would.

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Ka-52 related equipment:

magnumcromagnon Wed May 28, 2014 3:36 am

Ka-52 related equipment:

Helmet-mounted target designation system and display for a helicopter pilot (Helmet-mounted target designation and indication system for helicopters)

Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 12 HeliRussia2014-53

Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 12 HeliRussia2014-53

RFCs Crossbow FH01 (Arbalet FH01 radar)

Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 12 HeliRussia2014-49

Laser Station optronic suppression from the board defense helicopters President-C (Laser ECM station from President-S ECM system for helicopters) Information plate (Datasheet in Russian)

Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 12 HeliRussia2014-51

Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 12 HeliRussia2014-51

Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 12 HeliRussia2014-52

806P weapon control system from the Ka-52 (Weapon control system 806P for Ka-52)

Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 12 HeliRussia2014-54

Sighting and computational complex PrVK-24 (Sighting computer system PrVK-24)

Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 12 HeliRussia2014-56

http://vitalykuzmin.net/?q=node/566

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George1 Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:38 pm

About 150 Ka-52 Alligator combat helicopters will be delivered to Russian Ministry of Defense during the period until 2020

146 Ka-52 Alligator combat helicopters will be delivered to Russian Ministry of Defense by Progress Arsenyev Aviation Company during the period until 2020, ITAR-TASS reports with reference to the Deputy Minister of Defense, Yuri Borisov.

"The enterprise’s financial situation is stable and it has a long-term contract for delivery of 146 Ka-52 Alligator helicopters. The deliveries must be completed by 2020. It is also planned to place an order for 32 ship-based helicopters of the type", — he said. The Deputy Minister noted that the Russian navy is waiting for Ka-52K helicopters, which will be deployed onboard Mistral helicopter carriers.

Yuri Borisov visited Primorye in order to monitor the implementation of a number of contracts signed in the network of State Defense Order and to assess the capabilities of defense enterprises. During the meeting with the enterprise’s management team a new contract for delivery of Ka-52K helicopters in 2015-2016 was being discussed, the ministry’s press-service reports.

"Special attention was paid to phasing out imports; in particular, this refers to Ukrainian-produced components. There are no critical problems and we will be able to handle it", - Borisov said.

Ka-52 Alligator combat helicopter is fitted with state-of-the-art avionics and powerful weapons, which may be configured for different missions.

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Viktor Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:10 pm

Nice

Tests of the new complex means of communication for the Ka-52 will be completed by the end of 2014

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Cyberspec Tue Nov 11, 2014 3:22 am

A few Ka-52 pics from the recent Vostok 2014 exercise

Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 12 34iGv

Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 12 PI79S

Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 12 AcsE7

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Cyberspec Tue Nov 11, 2014 3:24 am

And a couple more from a mixed unit

Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 12 Pofz4

Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 12 Coi8b

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Werewolf Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:18 pm

I purchased yesterday an ebook of all or at least alot of russian optronic and electro-optronic technologies.
The book is great from optics for rifles, laser rangefinder and designators for infantry, tank optics/TIS, heliborne (which i mainly was interested but little bit disappointed since TOR Zenit is not published or kept secret), jetborne IRST, targeting pods, targeting sights to spy plane high resolution spy cameras and even space Laser based data transmitting laser, high telescopes for satellites, MAWS for aircrafts and tons of other stuff like this the Image Processing for Surveillance/Attack and Commanding aircrafts aka what the Ka-50/52 have.

Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 12 7viue8e4

Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 12 7viue8e4

Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 12 6ss2prk2

Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 12 Qd882psj

Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 12 Ev62aybh

Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 12 96h7hyef

Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 12 54d4is23

The Image Processor was initially installed on the Ka-50 because the Radar was not ready and to ease the workload for combat, reconnaisance missions for single seater Ka-50 pilots it was installed so the Shkval-V could have a Search and track function similiar to a Radar but in the light spectrum. The Image Processor can recognize artificial lines like roads, or straight lines like on vehicles/tanks,bridges or buildings and it is a Subsystem of the T-90MS that was seen that it can even autotrack and lockon on each Window on a building for rapid and accurate gun and ATGM fire through the windows.

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Cyberspec Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:14 pm

Thx for sharing Smile

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marcinko Sat Nov 22, 2014 6:38 pm

Werewolf wrote:I purchased yesterday an ebook of all or at least alot of russian optronic and electro-optronic technologies.
The book is great from optics for rifles, laser rangefinder and designators for infantry, tank optics/TIS, heliborne (which i mainly was interested but little bit disappointed since TOR Zenit is not published or kept secret), jetborne IRST, targeting pods, targeting sights to spy plane high resolution spy cameras and even space Laser based data transmitting laser, high telescopes for satellites, MAWS for aircrafts and tons of other stuff like this the Image Processing for Surveillance/Attack and Commanding aircrafts aka what the Ka-50/52 have.

The Image Processor was initially installed on the Ka-50 because the Radar was not ready and to ease the workload for combat, reconnaisance missions for single seater Ka-50 pilots it was installed so the Shkval-V could have a Search and track function similiar to a Radar but in the light spectrum. The Image Processor can recognize artificial lines like roads, or straight lines like on vehicles/tanks,bridges or buildings and it is a Subsystem of the T-90MS that was seen that it can even autotrack and lockon on each Window on a building for rapid and accurate gun and ATGM fire through the windows.

Thanks for those man, can you tell us more about the book ?

Cheers

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Werewolf Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:09 am

Thanks for those man, can you tell us more about the book ?

Here i uploaded a zip file with screenshots from the contents list.

http://www.file-upload.net/download-9893750/Inhaltsverzeichnis-26.zip.html

If you have questions for something specifically ask.

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marcinko Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:36 pm

Werewolf wrote:

Thanks for those man, can you tell us more about the book ?

Here i uploaded a zip file with screenshots from the contents list.

If you have questions for something specifically ask.

Thanks for that Werewolf, it definetly covers a wide range of military machines.

Can you tell me please whats the book called and where can I get one ?

Cheers

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Stealthflanker Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:39 pm

marcinko wrote:
Thanks for that Werewolf, it definetly covers a wide range of military machines.

Can you tell me please whats the book called and where can I get one ?

Cheers

It should be "Russia's arms and Technology XXI Encyclopedia Vol 11 Optoelectronics and Laser Systems" By Nikolai Spassky.

I wonder if it's newer edition... I have that book, but it's 2005 edition. Quite outdated perhaps.

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Werewolf Fri Nov 28, 2014 5:12 pm

Stealthflanker wrote:

marcinko wrote:
Thanks for that Werewolf, it definetly covers a wide range of military machines.

Can you tell me please whats the book called and where can I get one ?

Cheers

It should be "Russia's arms and Technology XXI Encyclopedia Vol 11 Optoelectronics and Laser Systems" By Nikolai Spassky.

I wonder if it's newer edition... I have that book, but it's 2005 edition. Quite outdated perhaps.

Yes, it is this exact book didn't found a newer version for optroelectronics and Laser Systems specifically.

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marcinko Fri Nov 28, 2014 6:23 pm

Stealthflanker wrote:

marcinko wrote:
Thanks for that Werewolf, it definetly covers a wide range of military machines.

Can you tell me please whats the book called and where can I get one ?

Cheers

It should be "Russia's arms and Technology XXI Encyclopedia Vol 11 Optoelectronics and Laser Systems" By Nikolai Spassky.

I wonder if it's newer edition... I have that book, but it's 2005 edition. Quite outdated perhaps.

Thanks man

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Viktor Mon Dec 22, 2014 4:52 pm

Not much has been heard about Ka-52 deliveries during this year.

Six combat "Alligator" will go to air units TSB

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TheArmenian Tue Dec 30, 2014 1:03 am

10 new Alligators. Don't know if the above six are part of this batch.

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mack8 Tue Dec 30, 2014 4:57 pm

Thanks, nice to see them in the new cammo.

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George1 Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:15 pm

Aviation Division of the Eastern Military District (TSB) in 2015 will receive 22 attack helicopters Ka-52 "Alligator"

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George1 Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:12 am

16 Ka-52 Helicopter Gunships to Join Russian Air Force in 2015

The Russian Air Force is set to take delivery of 146 Ka-52 helicopter gunships before 2020, the Russian Deputy Defense Minister said on Monday.

Sixteen multirole Kamov Ka-52 helicopters will be handed over to the Russian military before the end of this year, Yuri Borisov told RIA Novosti news agency on Monday.

"This year we are slated to receive sixteen Ka-52s,” Borisov said after a visit to the Progress plant in Arsenyev, 160 km from Vladivostok.

The plant’s director, Yuri Denisenko, for his part, pledged to complete all the 146 ordered aircraft before the 2020 deadline.

The Ka-52 Alligator is a next-generation reconnaissance and combat helicopter designed to destroy tanks, armored and non-armored ground targets, enemy troops and helicopters both on the front line and in the tactical reserves.

The helicopter can operate around the clock and in all weather conditions.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150323/1019871987.html#ixzz3VC6of0rr

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George1 Mon Mar 23, 2015 11:38 am

16 per year isn't a low number for helicopter production?

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GarryB Tue Mar 24, 2015 6:43 am

If they plan to build 100 a year that means two years of work... millions of dollars invested in factory production space and tooling and materials and of course training workers to build 100 aircraft per year and after two years when you have 200 aircraft you have no new production orders so those workers are fired and millions of dollars worth of factories are sitting idle with no work.

Makes rather more sense to produce less over a longer period to keep fewer people in work for a much longer period.

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George1 Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:57 pm

max steel wrote: Updated Ka-27 Helicopter to Join Russian Navy in 2015

A batch of Kamov Ka-27 ship-based antisubmarine warfare helicopters will be repaired and upgraded by the Russian Helicopters Holding Company, with the first updated units slated to enter service already before the end of this year, the company press service said Thursday.

"The pilot helicopter, equipped with modern target detection and identification gear, has successfully undergone state trials. It is capable of detecting and tracking submerged and surface targets, engaging them with onboard weapons or communicating the obtained data to the fleet.

The upgrade of the Ka-27 aircraft will continue through 2016-2017,” the statement said.

“Successful modernization of the Ka-27 enables us to offer similar upgrades of the Ka-28 export units currently in use abroad, or offer our foreign buyers the very latest, expanded, version of this helicopter,” the company press service said.

i think this belongs to "Russian Naval Aviation" thread

http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150402/1020378939.html#ixzz3WBFJeu67

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Werewolf Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:48 am

I present to you the coolest shit of a test of the ejection system.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e42_1429167831

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