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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  Austin on Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:51 pm

    They are replacing the Ukraine engine with NK-32 variant on An-124

    AN-124 "Ruslan" to 2020 will receive a domestic engines

    http://vpk-news.ru/news/28233


    The task in 2019 to equip the heavy military transport aircraft An-124 "Ruslan" Ukrainian domestic engines instead of the D-18T, according to Interfax-Military News Agency quoted the deputy chief designer of "Kuznetsov" Anton Shatsky

    "The specified deadlines are extremely tight. To be exact "fit" in the size of the D-18T engine nacelle. Despite all the difficulties, this problem is solved ", - said A.Shatsky.

    According to him, it is regarded as the base engine NK-32 series 2. The engine was created for the Tu-160. It has a unique turbine that can withstand prolonged high-temperature regimes.

    "During the current year JSC" Kuznetsov "was carried out to study the possibility of using the gas generator engine NK-32 aircraft AN-124" - said A.Shatsky.

    He pointed out that the original study show that developed on the basis of the NK-32 engine will have a maximum takeoff thrust of 24 t (at the D-18T - 23.4 m), and the thrust of the engine at an altitude of 11 km and a speed of M = 0.75 will be 5 m.


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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  Firebird on Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:23 pm

    Anyone know what the intellectual property status is of the An-124?

    I think its jointly built at Ru and Ukr plants.
    There was talk that Russia would buy Antonov only 3 or so yrs ago.
    But I think the intelluctual property rights are still in Ukrainian ownership.

    I'm pretty sure that, as of now, Russia could not produce whole new An-124s on its own.

    But I wonder, can it keep (cough) "repairing" a hull.

    Its what happens with vintage cars.
    ie someone owns a chassis number or in this case a hull number.
    All of the vehicle is effectively fucked. But in the case of the car, you can replace everything and call it a "Ferrari 248 from 1965" etc.

    So could the same be done with An 124s?

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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  Militarov on Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:46 pm

    Firebird wrote:Anyone know what the intellectual property status is of the An-124?

    I think its jointly built at Ru and Ukr plants.
    There was talk that Russia would buy Antonov only 3 or so yrs ago.
    But I think the intelluctual property rights are still in Ukrainian ownership.

    I'm pretty sure that, as of now, Russia could not produce whole new An-124s on its own.

    But I wonder, can it keep (cough) "repairing" a hull.

    Its what happens with vintage cars.
    ie someone owns a chassis number or in this case a hull number.
    All of the vehicle is effectively fucked. But in the case of the car, you can replace everything and call it a "Ferrari 248 from 1965" etc.

    So could the same be done with An 124s?

    JSC Aviastar SP in Ulyanovsk is capable of doing all repairs, maintenance and modernisation of AN124s. However building new ones would require some investments, but i wouldnt say Russia is unable to build them, China was also interested in this craft few years ago for joint production with Russia, not Ukraine. When its about licence i dont think Russia cares about that Very Happy Anyways that aircraft was developed in USSR times, when it was all "state owned" so most likely whole documentation exists in Russia too.

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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  Militarov on Sat Dec 05, 2015 6:59 am



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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  George1 on Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:53 am

    Aviastar-SP to upgrade three An-124 Ruslan transport aircraft


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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  franco on Sat Apr 23, 2016 2:28 pm

    An-124 Ruslan

    Construction of heavy military transport aircraft An-124 "Ruslan" at Ulyanovsk aviation enterprise frozen. This was stated by Director General of Aviation Plant Andrey Kapustin "Start" in an interview with the corporate newspaper.

    According to him, the production of the An-124 is stopped for geopolitical reasons.

    "As for the AN-124 aircraft release - due to various geopolitical" Ruslan "change we will no longer produce, and the resumption of its construction is not planned. But we will continue to carry out repair and maintenance of aircraft that are currently flying ", - said Kapustin.

    Recall, in 2015, it became known that the plane will receive engines instead of the domestic Ukrainian D-18T. According to the plan of import substitution should take place until 2019.

    The base was considered the engine NK-32 Series 2. This installation was created for strategic long-range bomber Tu-160. The engine has a unique turbine that can withstand prolonged high temperature regimes.

    However, these plans were due to objective reasons is currently not come true.

    Heavy long-range transport aircraft "Ruslan" is one of the world's largest aircraft. It was developed in OKB Antonov, located in Kiev. The first flight in 1982, was produced in Ulyanovsk from 1984 to 2004.

    As of autumn 2015 VKS Russia armed with 26 of these machines, of which ten are OK.


    Understand that no new ones will be built especially after most of the parts came from Ukraine. Does anyone know if the plan to rebuild and upgrade 20 of these planes (in progress) is still on?

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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  Flanky on Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:43 pm

    They stopped because of fears that Ukraine will sue them? Probably...
    Well all the more reason to invest into domestic projects.
    Russia needs its An-124 successor - the PAK-TA and C-17 equivalent for general transport missions.
    Il-76 is too small to transport army contingents on a larger scale.

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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  kvs on Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:27 pm

    Flanky wrote:They stopped because of fears that Ukraine will sue them? Probably...
    Well all the more reason to invest into domestic projects.
    Russia needs its An-124 successor - the PAK-TA and C-17 equivalent for general transport missions.
    Il-76 is too small to transport army contingents on a larger scale.

    The only reason Russia would be afraid of legal action over the An-124 is because of corrupt NATO-based courts.  Antonov
    was Soviet enterprise originally based in the Russian Soviet Socialist Republic.   Any Soviet era products such as the An-124
    are automatically legal intellectual property of Russia.    Just like AMD can make Intel compatible CPUs, so can Russia mass
    produce the An-124 and without any royalties.

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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  George1 on Fri Jul 29, 2016 3:02 pm

    An-124 "Ruslan" aircraft maintenance



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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  Tsavo Lion on Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:30 pm

    An-124 Ruslan to be upgraded with new engines
    Antonov has signed an agreement with engine makers Ivchenko Progress and Motor Sich to upgrade the D-18 high bypass engines powering the Antonov Airlines An-124-100 Ruslan heavy cargo planes.
    Under the program the current D-18 series 3 engines will be upgraded to the series 3M configuration, making it compliant with the new emission and noise standards.
    All the 7 Ruslans operated by Antonov Airlines will be upgraded, which will increase the service life of engine from 12000 to 14000 flight hours.
    Upgraded engines will provide reduced noise level and emissions enabling to operate to more western airports.
    Currently the D-18 3M engines are under testing, and installation and flight testing on the Ruslans are scheduled for next year.
    Antonov Airline was founded in 1989 and performs charter air transportation of out size cargoes with its Ruslan and An-225 Mriya fleet. The An-225 is the world largest aircraft, which is powered by six engines.
    The Ruslan can carry cargoes of upto 120 tons to a distance of 4500 km. An upgraded variant with improved range, payload and reduced maintenance is also being developed.

    AN-125 production may resume in Russia or even Ukraine if the political situation there changes in Russia's favor; but in the meantime Il'yshin plants got new orders lately & the IL-106 is being revived. Its max payload will be <, but still > the C-17's:
    Russia Revives Large Airlifter Design Work
    by Vladimir Karnozov
    The Ilyushin design bureau has resumed work on a very large, four-engine airlifter that was first drafted in the late 1980s. The move comes after support for the Russian air force fleet of An-124 Ruslan heavy airlifters by the Antonov design bureau ended, as a result of the poor relations between Russia and Ukraine.
    The Il-106 was originally meant to be a replacement for the aging An-22 turboprop heavy airlifter. Work commenced in 1987, and a draft design was completed in 1992, but funding shortages halted further progress.
    But recently, Ilyushin general manager Sergei Velmozhkin told Russian TV that “the Il-106, a new airlifter being developed in Russia, shall be able to land on unpaved runways…this machine is going to be huge, [able to carry] a payload of 80 to 100 tons. Unlike previous designs, it shall be able to land on unprepared runways.” He said that the new aircraft was in the An-124 class.
    Ilyushin general designer Nikolai Talikov also confirmed that a big airlifter is being developed. “We can speak about it seriously by 2022-2023” after design work is complete, he said.
    The Il-106 was resumed after the Russian defense ministry requested the industry develop what it calls “Perspective Aviation Complex of Military Transport Aviation.” Subsequently, in late 2014/early 2015, United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) came up with a number of proposals, including the “Ermak project.” Details remained scarce until sources within Ilyushin began speaking of the Il-106 program resumption.
    A scale model of the Il-106 appeared briefly at Ilyushin stands during airshows a quarter century ago. It revealed a classic ramp-airlifter design bearing resemblance to the Il-76 and An-124, but with winglets and a relatively wider and shorter fuselage. With a length of 58 meters (190 feet), and a wingspan of nearly 60 meters 197 feet], the Il-106 would have a maximum takeoff weight of 258 metric tons (569,000 pounds), and an empty weight of 135 metric tons (298,000 pounds). Cruise speed would be 820-850 km/h [442-460kt], and typical range would be 5,000 km (2,700nm). Field performance: takeoff and landing lengths between 1,400 and 1,550 meters (4,600 to 5,100 feet). The six-meter-wide cargo cabin (about 20 feet) would have a length of 34 meters (111.5 ft) and height of 4.6 meters (15 feet).
    Power was to have come from four Nikolai Kuznetsov NK-92 ducted-fan engines each developing 18 metric tons of thrust (39,700 pounds)and developed for record-low fuel burn. Coupled with good lift qualities of the wing (area 370 sq m), these design elements were expected to delivermarkedly lower fuel burn on the Il-106 compared with the previous generation of Soviet airlifters.
    Since neither the NK-92 nor its derivative NK-93 has been completed, the reborn Il-106 must have another engine. Most likely, it would be an up-rated version of the PD-14 engine from Aviadvigatel design house. The baseline PD-14 was developed for the Irkut MC-21 airliner, and is now on the brink of flight test on an Il-76 flying testbed.

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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  Flanky on Sun Aug 21, 2016 12:26 am

    Ok so if i get it right they are planning to have a C-17 equivalent but not An-124 replacement... I do have a feeling that they should work on atleast maintaing or slightly expanding the An-124 fleet.

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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sun Aug 21, 2016 12:41 am

    The existing AN-124 fleet will be maintained & modernized, & it should be enough for airlift needs together with modernized older IL-76s & 39 new IL-76MD-90As (more may be ordered later).
    Once IL-106 based planes are produced, a heavier follow-on design may be submitted to replace/augment the AN-124s.

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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  kvs on Sun Aug 21, 2016 3:03 am

    If they are going to start from scratch the new aircraft will not be like the IL-106 so its specifications are not relevant. The new
    project will be an AN-124 replacement.

    The Banderastani idiots will get nothing from the AN-124. They can't build new copies and they will not have any benefits from a
    re-launch of AN-124 production that could have happened if they were not a bunch of Hitler worshiping retards.

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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  GarryB on Sun Aug 21, 2016 11:22 am

    Ok so if i get it right they are planning to have a C-17 equivalent but not An-124 replacement... I do have a feeling that they should work on atleast maintaing or slightly expanding the An-124 fleet.

    Right now they have the An-22 in the 80 ton payload class but it is leaving service, so what they want and need are three types of aircraft... one in the 80-100 ton payload class, one in the 120-150 ton payload class, and they also could use a super heavy in the 250 ton class.

    Everything is really up in the air... there was a plan to develop and produce a family of aircraft with the same engine where the lightest aircraft has two engines, the An-124 replacement has four engines and the heavy aircraft has six engines where they all share basic design and structure and engine types and avionics... the only difference will be size and the fact that the larger aircraft will have a different tail to allow large loads to be carried on its back like the An-225, while the smaller aircraft will probably have a normal tail and be able to parachute people and vehicles from their rears.

    Of course the Il-106 design already exists, but it could easily be adapted as the small aircraft in the family.

    Equally however they might decide instead of a 250 ton payload aircraft that a 1,000 ton payload airship might be more efficient... who can say.

    Note the heavier aircraft class would be mostly used by the space industry, but also for other heavy components like large turbines for dams or other engines, or fuel tanks for rockets etc.


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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  Tsavo Lion on Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:19 pm

    kvs wrote:If they are going to start from scratch the new aircraft will not be like the IL-106 so its specifications are not relevant. The new
    project will be an AN-124 replacement.
    Most likely, they'll be using the IL-106 design to save time & $ instead of starting from scratch, & that's why I posted that picture. Their highest priority is the army, frontal AF & navy, so future developments will tell if there'll be enough $ for AN-124 replacement. If/when Ukraine falls back to Russian orbit, new orders may start coming for AN-124s, AN-70s, and even surface ships! Regarding IL-76s:
    Upgraded IL-76 Service Life Extended by 40 Years: Russian Company Claims  02:45 PM, July 25
    The Ilyushin Il-76MD-M military transport plane is currently performing test flights as part of its production flight tests. "As of today, the plane has performed ten test flights. During the upgrade, the plane’s service life was extended to 40 years. The plane also received a new flight and navigation system and its lighting, airdropping, utility, self-defense and communications equipment has been replaced," the press office of Russia’s Radio-Electronic Technologies Group said last Friday. According to the press office, a multipurpose electro-optical sighting system was installed in the Il-76MD-M plane’s nose to make airdrops more accurate and safer. The system allows watching the drop zone in all weather conditions as it works in the infrared and optical bands. "During the upgrade, the plane received some units interchangeable with parts of the advanced Il-76MD-90A military transport plane," the press office said. According to Russia’s Defense Ministry, the upgrade of the Il-76MD plane to the Il-76MD-M level is expected to cost 30% or less than the cost of advanced aircraft. In all, 41 Il-76MD planes are planned to be upgraded to the Il-76MD-M level. Work is currently under way to upgrade the Il-78 (Midas) and Il-78M aerial refueling planes to the Il-78-2 and Il-78M-2 level, respectively.
    Upgraded Il-76MD-M Airlifter Makes First Flight in Russia
    by Vladimir Karnozov - March 1, 2016, 10:23 AM
    Russian aircraft manufacturer Ilyushin conducted the first flight of an upgraded Il-76MD-M airlifter on February 28. Chief test pilot Nikolai Kuimov headed the design bureau’s crew for the flight, which was uneventful.
    The Il-76MD-M is a mid-life upgrade of the four-engine Il-76MD airlifter. The flight-test aircraft, registered as RF-76746, was reworked at Ilyushin’s flight-test facility in Zhukovsky near Moscow. The design bureau plans to complete flight tests later this year and use RF-76746 as the prototype to upgrade 40 Il-76M/MDs now in service with the Russian air force. Ilyushin is performing the work under contract to the Russian defense ministry. The latter also plans to fund a similar upgrade on a still undetermined number of Il-78M tankers. The TAPO factory in Uzbekistan built nearly a thousand Il-76M/MDs and delivered the last airlifter in 1992. Forty will be upgraded to the MD-M standard over the next 12 years. The MD-M upgrade targets the youngest part of the Il-76M/MD fleet—mainly those airframes with the longest remaining service life. The upgrade features a modern avionics suite, a new radio communications set and a self-protection system. The aircraft keeps its original Soloviev D-30KP2 engines. Its service life is extended by 10 years to 40 years. Some of the MD-M onboard systems are replaced with systems developed for the new Il-76MD-90A transport, which is being produced by the Aviastar factory in Ulianovsk. As of late February, the Russian air force had accepted two of the 39 Il-76MD-90As it has ordered; a third was undergoing acceptance trials. Aviastar will deliver the -90A model through 2021. Another Il-76MD upgrade solution that centered on replacing the D-30KP engines with Aviadvigatel PS-90A-76 turbofans has been scrapped due to cost. One aircraft, designated Il-76MD-90, underwent flight trials and later provided a testbed for the Il-76MD-90A project. “There will be no massive replacement of D-30KP engines by the newer PS-90A on in-service aircraft,” Ilyushin general designer Nikolai Talikov told AIN.
    Russia’s Il-76MD-M Plane Undergoing Production Flight Tests 26 july 2016
    The Ilyushin Il-76MD-M military transport plane is currently performing test flights as part of its production flight tests, the press office of Russia’s Radio-Electronic Technologies Group said. "As of today, the plane has performed ten test flights.

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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  GarryB on Tue Aug 23, 2016 3:01 am

    “There will be no massive replacement of D-30KP engines by the newer PS-90A on in-service aircraft,” Ilyushin general designer Nikolai Talikov told AIN.

    Not really that surprising... if I remember correctly the original engines were something like $800K each, while the new PS-90A engines were something like $6 million each. Even if the new engines were 50% more fuel efficient you would need to burn an enormous amount of fuel to cover the cost of the new engines... remember 4 x 8 = 3.2 million for four engines is rather cheaper than 4 x 6 = 24 million per aircraft... 21 million dollars worth of fuel is a lot of fuel.

    In time the new engine will get cheaper, but also in time existing engines will be improved and performance will get better too.


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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Tue Aug 23, 2016 3:55 am

    Good points! BTW, many Il-76MD-Ms &/ Il-76MD-90As may be ordered by current Il-76 users:
    At least four countries - Iran, Algeria, South Africa and Kazakhstan - had shown interest in buying the Il-76MD-90A (also known as Il-476), the general director of aircraft-maker Aviastar-SP said Friday.
    ULYANOVSK (Sputnik) — Russia's Ilyushin Il-76-MD-90A heavy military transport aircraft has a promising exports potential and its first deliveries to foreign customers deliveries may begin as early as in 2017, the general director of aircraft-maker Aviastar-SP said Friday. .."I think, that the Il-76-MD-90A has a big exports potential…I hope the first plane will be ready for export in 2017," Sergei Dementyev told RIA Novosti.
    According to the general director, the aircraft-maker has plans to expand the production capacity of the modernized Il-76, which would allow the company to produce up to 18 aircraft a year. Under this financial model, Aviastar-SP would make up to 190 heavy transport planes by 2030, Dementyev said.

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    Post  Flanky on Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:36 pm

    GarryB wrote:Equally however they might decide instead of a 250 ton payload aircraft that a 1,000 ton payload airship might be more efficient... who can say.
    Actually where have i read that they are developing airships for this? Very good idea...

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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:10 pm

    "Ruslan" brought 70 tons of weapons and ammunition for Kurds
    Vladimir Gundarov Deputy. managing editor of the "Independent Military Review"
    16 August 2016 Russian transport An-124 "Ruslan" delivered from Leipzig to the capital of Iraqi Kurdistan Erbil 70 tons of arms and ammunition taken from the warehouses of the Bundeswehr, Suddeutsche Zeitung reported with reference to the Ministry of Defense of Germany. The plane made ​​a stopover in Baghdad for customs inspection by the central Iraqi authorities. As part of the cargo was 1.5 thousand assault rifles Heckler-Koch G-36 and 1 million cartridges for them, 100 anti-tank Milan (most likely it is a question of missiles), three armored vehicles Dingo-1.. This year, a scandal erupted in Germany due to supply arms to Iraqi Kurds, when it emerged that part of the delivered arms hit the market. After that, the Germans stopped the supply of, and now they have them renewed. Kurds reported that of the 28 th. Barrels previously set Bundeswehr, only 30 units hit the market. In addition to the support of the Iraqi Kurds in Europe are receiving assistance from the United States and Russia. It was reported that in late July, Russia delivered 940 thousand Kurds. Cartridges for machine guns and Kalashnikov in preparation for an attack on Mosul. Russian transport aircraft and boarded for inspection in Baghdad. In addition, it was promised that it was not the last plane with military assistance to Iraqi Kurds fighting with IG (banned in Russia as a terrorist organization).
    http://nvo.ng.ru/nvoevents/2016-08-26/2_ruslan.html
    In the future contingencies, if there r not enough AN-124s in the AF inventory, Volga-Dnepr planes could be contracted. Another point I want to make is that for most missions, cargo planes r not loaded to max capacity, so the AN-124s current numbers r not critical.

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    Post  TheArmenian on Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:14 am

    Do not hold your breath for an AN-124 replacement anytime soon.

    Russia has a number of mothballed AN-124s with modest mileage in reserve (mothballed). The MoD can just bring those back to service at minimal cost when the current fleet exhausts itself. They don't need to order a new aircraft for at least a couple of decades.
    The money can be used for more urgent needs.

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    Post  GarryB on Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:22 am

    The fact that they are adapting a version of the NK-32 engine to be used with An-124s suggest they intend to keep using them for some time to come.

    I would like to see a unified modular heavy and super heavy transport aircraft design using these engines at some stage but it is not hugely urgent yet.


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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:15 pm

    As of December 2012, they had 13 planes in storage. http://bmpd.livejournal.com/498721.html
    China and Ukraine agree to restart [AN-124 derivative] An-225 production http://www.janes.com/article/63341/china-and-ukraine-agree-to-restart-an-225-production

    The Chinese may later develop a scaled down 4-engine version of AN-124-100 size.

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    Post  JohninMK on Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:57 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:As of December 2012, they had 13 planes in storage. http://bmpd.livejournal.com/498721.html
    China and Ukraine agree to restart [AN-124 derivative] An-225 production  http://www.janes.com/article/63341/china-and-ukraine-agree-to-restart-an-225-production

    The Chinese may later develop a scaled down 4-engine version of AN-124-100 size.
    Not so much restart it but flog the lot to China, lock, stock and barrel. This has not yet been properly announced so who knows? Via Yandex

    BEIJING, August 31. /Offset. TASS Oleg Trutnev/. The Ukrainian state enterprise "Antonov" gave the Chinese company China Airspace rights in the world's largest transport aircraft an-225 "Mriya".

    This was announced by China Central television. According to him, the day before the company signed a cooperation agreement, according to which the Chinese party takes title to the aircraft an-225, as well as the right to use the drawings and design documents. The negotiations were conducted in may of this year.

    The media says that Chinese Corporation is planning to release the first aircraft of this model in the first half of 2019.


    http://tass.ru/ekonomika/3580496

    The Ukrainian state enterprise “Antonov” has sold to a Chinese company China Aerospace technical documentation on super-heavy transport aircraft an-225 “Mriya”. This was announced on his page on Facebook Chinese TV channel CCTV.

    Negotiations took place in may 2016, the transaction was concluded on 30 August in Beijing. Reportedly, under the terms of the agreement, in addition to a full set of drawings and specifications, and documentation for the engines to China and transferred all rights to the aircraft.

    The TV channel notes that the first machine of this type can be released in China in the first half of 2019.

    In may 2016 Vice-President of “Antonov” Alexander Kotsyuba said that Ukraine could launch the serial production of the an-225 together with China. “There is some interest from China. For them, this amount is quite lifting. But while this level of discussion,” he said.

    An-225 “Mriya” (“Dream”) is a heavy transport machine, the largest aircraft in the world. Takeoff weight of the aircraft shestimotorny 640 tons, payload up to 250 tons. The machine was designed in the 1980-ies in the Antonov design Bureau first flew in December 1988. Largely unified with the plane An-124 “Ruslan”.

    The only flying prototype of the machine belongs to the “Antonov” and operated his company “Antonov Airlines”. The second car, whose construction began in the 1980s, was abandoned at the stage of readiness from 60 to 80 percent (according to different sources). Technological advance is in storage.


    http://rushincrash.com/uncategorized...-an-225-mriya/

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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  Firebird on Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:32 pm

    Re An-225
    Sounds rather like a pr stunt from those pathetic Nazi hohols. Is an oversized An-225 really that useful for "mass production"?

    Wasn't Russia a joint venture partner? And in any case, surely RUSSIA holds equal intellectual property? And have the hohols breached an agreement with Russia by selling out to China? Perhaps China could sell any intellectual property on to Russia?

    Would Russia produce An-124s and 225s? Or is the plane past it with Russia better off developing Ilyushin variants?

    Either way, sad to see these hohol Obama-bitches betray their own roots yet again.

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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  Big_Gazza on Thu Sep 01, 2016 2:33 pm

    Seems that the Ukropistanis are selling the (inherited) family jewels for a one-off cash injection (which will be immediately stolen by Porkshank and/or his Oligarch allies), while the Chinese get "all manufacturing rights and technological documents for the super-heavy air freighter AN-225 Mriya" and get to manufacture within China without any further Ukrop involvement.

    Sounds like a fire sale to me. I wonder how little the Chinese managed to pay the Ukrops? A large sack of potatoes and a case of vodka is a likely price...

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